thor corps vs heralds

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Meh, not that impressive when considering his lv.

Meh, Stardust created a black hole.

Did he amp his power, or did he just have the power required to accomplish the task?

That we will.

Good for Stardust... except all Surfer did was blow up the planet, and the black hole followed.

Originally posted by Soljer
A slightly ambiguous feat; the Surfer outputs Thanos-level power.

Annihilation #5
"Keyed to Thanos' power level"
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/Manjaro_/Annihilation5004.jpg
"Thanos was power incarnate! We can't activate these!"
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/Manjaro_/Annihilation5005.jpg
A ridiculously weakened Surfer:
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/Manjaro_/Annihilation5006.jpg
"Enough! It is done!"
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/Manjaro_/Annihilation5007.jpg

Oh, I think we can almost safely say he is over his previous powers.

Originally posted by bigbran
He did it just to teach someone a lesson. All the while, Ravenous was saying "What have you become?"

Good for Stardust... except all Surfer did was blow up the planet, and the black hole followed.

Oh, I think we can almost safely say he is over his previous powers.

Still though it's just a planet, they've been just as easily destroyed before bu Herald lv characters.

All Stardust did is lift his rod.

Meh, I guess.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Still though it's just a planet, they've been just as easily destroyed before bu Herald lv characters.

All Stardust did is lift his rod.

Meh, I guess.

Before the Galactus thing, Surfer actually had some trouble with him.

Ya, and all Surfer did was destroy a planet when he was in a mercy fight, basically.

"Meh," Is that a sign for Surfer being more powerful?

Surfer actually hasn't done anything he couldn't do before.

He's destroyed planets in his fights before.

He hadn't yet been given a power up when he created the blackhole, iirc.

All he's done so far, is get into a blast fight and lose to a cosmic being.

But i would say Surfer is more powerful than Thor, classic versions both.

He's faster, more durable by a significant margin and has more easily accessible firepower.

Originally posted by bigbran
And? All he did was destoy it, so he could teach someone a lesson. Get it through your head.
He didn't destroy it with all his power, he just unleashed some power.

Before the Galactus thing, Surfer actually had some trouble with him.

Ya, and all Surfer did was destroy a planet when he was in a mercy fight, basically.

"Meh," Is that a sign for Surfer being more powerful?

Again; Planets have been destroyed by characters just as easily. This planet feats is not a feat that outs him over his previous lv.

I've read the comics, I don't need those scans.

It's still just a planet, something that has just as easily been destroyed by herald lv characters before.

Meh is my answer to current Surfer being more powerful than classic Surfer.

yeah, i'm not buying the power-up idea either. first, that seemed to me to be less a planet, and more a big rock or asteroid. second, ravenous was ALSO adding his power in that battle -- ss did the same thing to morg with the same result.

the change seems more . . . attitudinal, thus far. it MAY be born out that he has been upgraded, but nothing that i've seen convinces me. the fact that he DID blow up that planetoid JUST to teach a lesson seems to say quite clearly that his attitude HAS changed.

in any event, something that is rarely brought up in thor battles -- he can DECIDE to go 'warrior-mad'. it's not something he does often, but he can do this whenever he wants. if he were really going all out, he would go warrior mad, and wm thor crushed ss, rather easily on a couple occasions.

oh, and before we get too far off topic -- to reiterate -- heralds win, but i think the corps CAN take a couple. specially if thor goes nuts. 🙂

I like Stardust. 🙂

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
I like Stardust. 🙂

Gah . . .

That posting style . . .

Could it be?

Guy222?

Originally posted by leonidas
oh, and before we get too far off topic -- to reiterate -- heralds win, but i think the corps CAN take a couple. specially if thor goes nuts. 🙂

👆

Originally posted by UniOmni

But i would say Surfer is more powerful than Thor, classic versions both.

He's faster, more durable by a significant margin and has more easily accessible firepower.

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, i'm not buying the power-up idea either. first, that seemed to me to be less a planet, and more a big rock or asteroid. second, ravenous was ALSO adding his power in that battle -- ss did the same thing to morg with the same result.

Originally posted by leonidas
the change seems more . . . attitudinal, thus far. it MAY be born out that he has been upgraded, but nothing that i've seen convinces me. the fact that he DID blow up that planetoid JUST to teach a lesson seems to say quite clearly that his attitude HAS changed.

Originally posted by leonidas
in any event, something that is rarely brought up in thor battles -- he can DECIDE to go 'warrior-mad'. it's not something he does often, but he can do this whenever he wants. if he were really going all out, he would go warrior mad, and wm thor crushed ss, rather easily on a couple occasions.

Originally posted by bigbran
Planet. Galactus aske dif he should be mad about what Surfer did.
Plus, Ravenous really did nothing to add.

So... are you ignoring the fact that he has amped himself up to Thanos power?

He can only go WM three times in his life, before he dies. He has already been it twice. Warlock, and the Blood and Thunder arc.
He has never shown the ability to just turn into it.

ss has actually defeated thanos on a mental plane, and has seemingly matched him for times in the past -- when he wasn't jobbing. i have no doubt that a non-jobbing ss SHOULD be able to match thanos. we also don't really know just how much power was required there. maybe just more than the others could generate. it was a nice feat, but not enough to convince me he has been amped. need more proof.

where have you seen it said thor can go wm only 3 times . . .? 😕 proof?

and he absolutely CAN go wm if he needs to. i've ALREADY posted scans of it in a different thread some time ago. can't recall the f'n thread OR the book right now. i'll see once again if i can scrounge them up in the next little while.

still wondering where this 'only 3x in his lifetime' came from . . .

Originally posted by bigbran
Planet. Galactus aske dif he should be mad about what Surfer did.
Plus, Ravenous really did nothing to add.

So... are you ignoring the fact that he has amped himself up to Thanos power?

He can only go WM three times in his life, before he dies. He has already been it twice. Warlock, and the Blood and Thunder arc.
He has never shown the ability to just turn into it.

Yeah it was a Planet.

There's not enough proof to speculate one had to be on Thanos power lv to unleash the device. It could just as easily be speculated that anyone with a large power lv could have done the same.

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well, since no one has answered my query regarding where the idea came from that thor can only go warrior mad 3x in his lifetime, i'll spoil any more suspense and pretty much guarantee it to be incorrect as thor has ALREADY undergone at least 3 episodes of warrior madness.

1. the first happened wayyyy back in the 160's somewhere, and he was banished by odin to search for galactus.

2. the second happened when he fought the maestro in hulk . . . 450 (??) that was where thor told everyone he intentionally holds back and does not enter the madness form for fear of the damage he could cause in that state. that why he battled the hulk near the north (south ??) pole. he knew going into that fight he was gonna unleash his warrior madness. he did so CONSCIOUSLY . . .

3. the third obviously was in the (infamous) blood and thunder arc. (least ways i THINK b&t took place AFTER the hulk arc. guess it doesn't really matter which came first . . . 😬 )

obviously, since he didn't die at the conclusion of that arc, the notion that he can only go warrior mad 3x in a lifetime is false.

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