He took apart Anakin and Obi-Wan, whose partnership and teamwork represented the pinnacle of coordination. He could easily take any two of these Jedi, and almost certainly defeat any three, although that'd be difficult even for him.
Fact is, he's too damn powerful for anyone but his fellow upper-tier combatants and dark-side Anakin.
Originally posted by Faunus
He took apart Anakin and Obi-Wan, whose partnership and teamwork represented the pinnacle of coordination. He could easily take any two of these Jedi, and almost certainly defeat any three, although that'd be difficult even for him.
I disagree. Dooku himself acknowledges that the pair have focused their fighting style on killing droids- not an enemy Force user. They are unaccustomed to a single powerful duelist.
[...]He supposed that in their own milieu, they might actually prove reasonably effective; it was clear that their style had been developed by fighting as a team against large numbers of opponents. They were not prepared to fight together against a single Force-user, certainly not one of Dooku's power; he on the other hand, had always fought alone.
These Jedi may pose a greater threat due to their different style of fighting- they may prove more adept at teamwork against a superior opponent.
Originally posted by Faunus
Fact is, he's too damn powerful for anyone but his fellow upper-tier combatants and dark-side Anakin.
I would say only that 'he's too damn powerful for any one of his fellow upper-tier combatants and DS Anakin.'
Originally posted by Red NemesisWhich is when they're faking incompetence, IIRC. He then realizes his mistake and starts getting bitched on. Keep reading.
I disagree. Dooku himself acknowledges that the pair have focused their fighting style on killing droids- not an enemy Force user. They are unaccustomed to a single powerful duelist.
Of course, the two are apparently only faking for the first seven seconds of the duel in the movie, after which they get manhandled (when they're supposed to be going all-out).
These Jedi may pose a greater threat due to their different style of fighting- they may prove more adept at teamwork against a superior opponent.They've never fought together as a team. Ki-Adi and Shaak were outfought by Grievous, anyway.
I would say only that 'he's too damn powerful for [b]any one of his fellow upper-tier combatants and DS Anakin.' [/B]I meant Mace Windu, Yoda, Darth Sidious, or DS Anakin, not any one of those guys + Anakin at once.
As soon as he sees that they have even the smallest chance of killing him he changes tactics. He separates them, and runs into the brick wall of Skywalker's rage. His superior Force power (mastery, in this case) is put into play when he uses
He continues to hold superiority in Force mastery, and uses that to make it possible for his exceptional swordsmanship to win the duel for him.
Touche. The 'TECHNICAL JEDI WIZARD BETTER AT SABERS THAN YODA IN TECHNIQUE' worked well instinctively with a few Jedi, why can't these? (I know this is blatant speculation, but Dooku can't be good enough to take them all at once!)
I know what you meant. I was saying that TWO of these Jedi could take him, but that they'd need to work together to do so. Anakin didn't really come into my thoughts- I was just copying your statement and 'fixing' it to make it fit my argument.
Indeed all of these Jedi are powerful. None of them are a hair near Tyrannus in Force or Swordsmanship but with Jedi I believe you can make this list......
Top Tier: Yoda, Mace Windu
2nd Tier: Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Cin Drallig, Depa Billaba
3rd Tier: Plo, Kit, Mundi, Ti, Luminara, Qui-Gon Jinn
4th Tier: Seasee Tinn, Agen Kolar, Aayla Secura
So as you can see they aren't near Tyrannus(Top Tier), but if they work together they can perhaps kill him. Shaak Ti is a great duelist, Mundi and Plo have powerful Force users, and Kit is great all-around. Grievous wouldn't want to fight this team. Tyrannus' only way to fend off this team would be to
A. Seperate them(there's no droids like in ROTS helping him and there's 4 not 2)
B. Duel all four while using Force moves. Which he can't do. He can duel 2 and use Force on one but one more will be there to cut him down.
I doubt even Mace or even Yoda could take this team on even footing.