Dooku vs plo koon, kit fisto, ki-aid-mundi, and shaak ti

Started by Man of Christ2 pages

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Indeed all of these Jedi are powerful. None of them are a hair near Tyrannus in Force or Swordsmanship but with Jedi I believe you can make this list......

Top Tier: Yoda, Mace Windu
2nd Tier: Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Cin Drallig, Depa Billaba
3rd Tier: Plo, Kit, Mundi, Ti, Luminara, Qui-Gon Jinn
4th Tier: Seasee Tinn, Agen Kolar, Aayla Secura

So as you can see they aren't near Tyrannus(Top Tier), but if they work together they can perhaps kill him. Shaak Ti is a great duelist, Mundi and Plo have powerful Force users, and Kit is great all-around. Grievous wouldn't want to fight this team. Tyrannus' only way to fend off this team would be to

A. Seperate them(there's no droids like in ROTS helping him and there's 4 not 2)
B. Duel all four while using Force moves. Which he can't do. He can duel 2 and use Force on one but one more will be there to cut him down.

I doubt even Mace or even Yoda could take this team on even footing.


i couldve sworn gilliard said anakin is up there with windu and siddious and yoda as a lightsider.

i'd say windu takes this handily, they all have a tactical disadvantage as they could accidentaly cut eachother up before getting to dooku who could force pwn them

Originally posted by Man of Christ
i'd say windu takes this handily, they all have a tactical disadvantage as they could accidentaly cut eachother up before getting to dooku who could force pwn them

*stifles a giggle*

Originally posted by Enyalus
*stifles a giggle*

it was a typo i meant to say dooku but had just finished reading a windu thread so thats what came out.

i dont see why people waste thier time with antagonistic messages such as yours

Are you people nuts?

When discussing such a fight, we would have to take into consideration, that there is only limited space to attack Dooku, who also wouldn't just stand there and wait for his opponents to come. I don't see any way for all four Jedi to engage him in melee range simultaneously.

Aside of that this is Dooku. The same guy that quite commonly force rapes people while duelling them at the same time. Let's face it: The guy force raped Sora Bulq, while duelling Tholme at the same time. He floored Kenobi and Skywalker simultaneously. He did put Skywalker on his ass two times during their duel on Tatooine with apparent ease. Hell. He even has the confidence to force crush the metal construction in the Hangar on Geonosis to drop it on Kenobi and Skywalker while keeping up a saber lock with Yoda.

And here...he's clearly facing opposition that doesn't play in his league - neither with sabers nor with the force. So if he plays smart, and knocks some of them out via force attacks during the melee action, he might very well be able to win the fight. At least, I don't see the entire Jedi Team surviving that confrontation.

Originally posted by Man of Christ
i couldve sworn gilliard said anakin is up there with windu and siddious and yoda as a lightsider.
Anakin cannot take the majority against either in a lightsaber duel.

Also my list was reffering to the Jedi's skill w/ Force and a lightsaber.

Dooku used Makashi which was designed for single sabre-to-sabre combat and fell drastically in effectiveness against multiple opponents as well as blasters...i'd say the group, despite their individual weaknesess would probably take him though

I was under the impression that Makashi's footwork is designed so that it forces multiple opponents to get in the way of each other during a lightsaber duel. Can anyone validate that?

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Touche. The 'TECHNICAL JEDI WIZARD BETTER AT SABERS THAN YODA IN TECHNIQUE' worked well instinctively with a few Jedi, why can't these?
Sorry, I have no idea what you're saying.

(I know this is blatant speculation, but Dooku can't be good enough to take them all at once!)
Sidious took out Agen Kolar - one of the greatest bladesbeings in the history the Order - in two seconds, Saesee Tinn - apparently a "celebrated" and "formidable" swordsman in his own right - a second later, and Kit Fisto, whom we know all about, four seconds later. With a lightsaber.

Dooku is arguably a superior technical swordsman to his master, and there are two people in the era who can best him in a contest of the Force, both of whom happen to be the most powerful representatives of the light and dark sides of the Force in history. While I certainly think that the team Palpatine faced would kick his ass - thanks to Mace Windu - these four aren't quite as good.

I know what you meant. I was saying that TWO of these Jedi could take him, but that they'd need to work together to do so. Anakin didn't really come into my thoughts- I was just copying your statement and 'fixing' it to make it fit my argument.
It would take at least three of these guys to defeat Dooku, if not all four. The Count is a greater duelist than any of them and more powerful to boot. This team lacks the cohesion of Anakin / Obi-Wan, who were taken apart rather easily anyway, and individually, probably aren't equal to them in combat ability.

Originally posted by Faunus
While I certainly think that the team Palpatine faced would kick his ass - thanks to Mace Windu - these four aren't quite as good.
Actually this team is better if you would just replace Mace Windu.