Flash conquers the world the fastest, but not the easiest. I'm for maybe... ok I just rechecked the list, he takes over the easiest.
In terms of becoming the head of the earth: Xavier. He's kinda the only one who doesnt need to resort to hurting people to doing it, causing violence. X makes everyone enjoy following him around.
Originally posted by lorddreamer
Flash conquers the world the fastest, but not the easiest. I'm for maybe... ok I just rechecked the list, he takes over the easiest.
In terms of becoming the head of the earth: Xavier. He's kinda the only one who doesnt need to resort to hurting people to doing it, causing violence. X makes everyone enjoy following him around.
I don't know if Xavier can control everyone in the world. Just the government or the military might not be enough. What if someone decides to take justice in their own hands? What if someone (like terrorists or some scientists) decides to infect Xavier with a virus or odorless chemical gas (without coming into contact with him-like mail) or create a robot designed to kill him.
Also it might be hard to control all the entire governments 24hrs a day.
Once he goes to sleep then he will get bombed or poison chemical gased.
If these are not feasible then I think it will be still hard for him to establish a new world order (in hiding). Just to much work. Once he stops controlling the world (he needs to rest) then the world just resumes as normal. Maybe they kill him in his sleep (if he announces his presence as the ruler). Xavier would be an iffy choice.
Originally posted by h1a8
I don't know if Xavier can control everyone in the world. Just the government or the military might not be enough. What if someone decides to take justice in their own hands? What if someone (like terrorists or some scientists) decides to infect Xavier with a virus or odorless chemical gas (without coming into contact with him-like mail) or create a robot designed to kill him.
Also it might be hard to control all the entire governments 24hrs a day.
Once he goes to sleep then he will get bombed or poison chemical gased.If these are not feasible then I think it will be still hard for him to establish a new world order (in hiding). Just to much work. Once he stops controlling the world (he needs to rest) then the world just resumes as normal. Maybe they kill him in his sleep (if he announces his presence as the ruler). Xavier would be an iffy choice.
Dude. it's proffesor X. You really think he's never had to worry about terrorists before? He's gone up against all the biggest baddies on earth and is still going forward. (well, depending on the comic you read, thats up for debate)
He doesnt need t control all the govs at once, just the superpowers, and that takes seconds to do, each. Also, he could easily take over about 10 people's minds at once. He's done much, much worse.
He doesn't need to be constantly holding the people's minds. Thats one. And two: he could easily just have the presidents/primeministres/ kings just bow down before him, then have them killed by some 'evil' villain. It's bloodlust, afterall.
Whom do you pick, btw
Originally posted by lorddreamer
Dude. it's proffesor X. You really think he's never had to worry about terrorists before? He's gone up against all the biggest baddies on earth and is still going forward. (well, depending on the comic you read, thats up for debate)
He doesnt need t control all the govs at once, just the superpowers, and that takes seconds to do, each. Also, he could easily take over about 10 people's minds at once. He's done much, much worse.
He doesn't need to be constantly holding the people's minds. Thats one. And two: he could easily just have the presidents/primeministres/ kings just bow down before him, then have them killed by some 'evil' villain. It's bloodlust, afterall.Whom do you pick, btw
Controlling the leaders, doesn't mean controlling the people. The people will rebel. Xavier can't mind-control everyone on the planet.
Originally posted by Draco69
Controlling the leaders, doesn't mean controlling the people. The people will rebel. Xavier can't mind-control everyone on the planet.
If I were him I'd take over the military and crush the pathetic homo sapien resistence beneath the wheels of their own technology.
But that's just me.
Flash.
Like someone head, he could take the worlds military down before they even got a chance to pick up their guns, or push a button for that matter.
Then he can meet with Leaders, Governments, whatever, and if they don't like it, he can just punch every single person in the world 100 times before the conversation is over.
As Draco said, Xavier might be able to control seminal leaders, but he wouldn't be able to control the people. And while he could use those leaders to create a draconian governance structure that suppressed the people, the result of such an act would be to simply foster more resistance from the people. Sooner or later someone would get through (or Xavier would simply not be able to keep everything in check) and he would fall.
Now, a telepath who could do it perfectly would be the Martian Manhunter. His telepathy is also highest-order, plus he has other abilities that would ensure that no matter what he would be safe. It is like merging Xavier at his best with Superman! And even if the telepathic link was to break he would still be able to handle things through superspeed/strength, or blasts from his eyes, or shapeshifting into your president/primeminister/priest/brother/child/etc, or simply turning invisible/intangible and tormenting his target (i.e a green-hued ghost).
Anyways, going back to people on the list.
I'd have to say that top of the list would either be Superman or the Green Lantern.
SUPERMAN:
Start with Kal El: Several people chose the Flash because of speed, but Superman also has analogous speed. Is he as fast as the Flash? Well, no! However, he is fast enough that to any human there would be no difference. I doubt that even the Earth's scientists could be able to differentiate between the two speeds (even though there is a difference, and it is substantial ....eg the Flash can outrun instantaneous teleportation).
Now, to speed add uber-strength (I use 'uber' to differentiate it from the strength of characters like the Thing). Add invulnerability (on our earth Superman would be TOTALLY invincible .....there would be no kryptonite, no magic, no Phantom Zone .....nothing that could harm or hurt him even a wee bit. If a Kryptonite poisoned Superman can withstand a point-blank nuke, imagine what a healthy Superman on our world could withstand! He would be 100% invulnerable).
Then add his other powers .....the senses, the offensive abilities, the synergy between his various powers.
He would never be stopped, and he could take over just as fast as the Flash could (as stated, we would never be able to tell the difference between their two speeds. If both went at top speed, one - the Flash - would seem to be all over the world at the same time, while the other - Superman- would seem to be at several places at the same time. A major difference between the two, but one that would be next to impossible to pick up). The world's military powers would be totally useless, and even if he was caught off guard (hard to do with Superman's senses) there is no way they would be able to hurt him.
GREEN LANTERN:
A Green Lantern could also take over quite easily. The ring can do anything, from constructs to even telepathy (it is not often used, but rings have been shown to be used for tp). Also a GL would be invulnerable since the ring would automatically protect the wielder.
Anyways, a GL who knows how to use the ring could seriously do a lot of havoc.
A GL could take over the earth, and keep his rule intact and strong. And since the ring has infinite charge, and it constantly takes care of (and protects) him, the GL wouldn't have to worry about an 'ooops' situation.
Hopefully the ring is immune to yellow (or in Alan's case wood).
THOR:
The son of Odin could also rule the earth, and his rule would be safe. Now, the ease of that rule depends on just how well he can use Mjolnir.
The thing is, most writers simply write Thor using his war-hammer as a bloody club.
However a few writings have shown Thor using Mjolnir as it should be used .....as one of the most powerful weapons out there.
If Thor uses mjolnir as he is normally depicted using it (that is, as a club) then he would not be effective. He wouldn't be defeated, but he wouldn't be able to take over the world.
HOWEVER, if he used Mjolnir as it should, he could appear anywhere on earth, instantly crushing rebellion. He would be unstoppable.
Characters like the Juggernaut wouldn't be very effective. Actually the wouldn't be able to take over the world!
Why?
Well, think of it this way. The Juggernaut can only be in one place at a single time. Secondly he is not able to move anywhere very fast.
This means that while he would be unstoppable, he wouldn't be able to stop parallel rebellions breaking out in Asia Europe, Africa, Australia, South America etc if he is in North America!
He is too limited.
Actually he wouldn't be able to stop an uprising in New Jersey if he was only a few miles away in New York.
Insurgencies would break out everywhere, and while they wouldn't be able to harm Cain, Cain would also not be able to quell them.
He would be a useless conqueror .....unstoppable, but not a conqueror.
BTW the same oculd be said about the Hulk. While the Hulk could travel faster than Cain (eg the Hulk can jump several times with each bound) he would still not be able to quell dissension and uprisings across the globe (or for that matter across a time-zone).
Characters like Superman could easily take down uprisings around the globe.
Anyways, the best characters are:
1) Superman/Green Lantern
2) The Flash
3) Thor/Magneto
The rest fall below.
The reason is it is not about power only (if it was pure power then even the Hulk or Juggernaut could be contenders).
It is also about the ability to APPLY that power, and apply it EFFECTIVELY.
Characters like the Flash, Superman, Green Lantern and Thor (if properly written) could do all of the above.
Characters like Juggernaut would be invincible, but they would have severe mobility issues and be unable to crush insurgencies breaking out all across the globe (imagine what would happen if a superhuman started going about conquering places .....the world would be in an uproar, and just because the character was strong wouldn't make people not rise up. Look at the situation in Iraq .....the insurgents/terrorists are weak against the American military, but they still rise up and attack using assymetric warfare techniques. They will not have the guts to face an American soldier face to face, but they will just go ahead an plant an IED that kills 5 soldiers. Thus, just because the Juggernaut is powerful doesn't mean people will simply lay down and surrender).
Other characters like Xavier could easily take over the world, and do it in total stealth. However keeping it that way over years and years would be hard to do. It would be hard to stop 'lone wolves' from rising up, and the only way Xavier could do that is by staying hooked up to Cerebra/bro constantly.
Not much of a life.
Also if he made a single mistake it could cause him his life (since a bullet would kill him as easily as it would a gopher).
Originally posted by spetznazWhile I do agree he won't be the fastest Juggernaut could conquer the entire world if he wanted. First off his strength is enough to cause Earthquakes and Massive Damage to cities. The fear alone of him coming to your town would probably be enough to make most people stay put. Simply because unlike American Soldiers Cain cann;t be stopped or killed has no qualms about really getting his point across by oblietrating entire towns and he doesn't need to eat sleep or drink.
As Draco said, Xavier might be able to control seminal leaders, but he wouldn't be able to control the people. And while he could use those leaders to create a draconian governance structure that suppressed the people, the result of such an act would be to simply foster more resistance from the people. Sooner or later someone would get through (or Xavier would simply not be able to keep everything in check) and he would fall.Now, a telepath who could do it perfectly would be the Martian Manhunter. His telepathy is also highest-order, plus he has other abilities that would ensure that no matter what he would be safe. It is like merging Xavier at his best with Superman! And even if the telepathic link was to break he would still be able to handle things through superspeed/strength, or blasts from his eyes, or shapeshifting into your president/primeminister/priest/brother/child/etc, or simply turning invisible/intangible and tormenting his target (i.e a green-hued ghost).
Anyways, going back to people on the list.
I'd have to say that top of the list would either be Superman or the Green Lantern.
SUPERMAN:
Start with Kal El: Several people chose the Flash because of speed, but Superman also has analogous speed. Is he as fast as the Flash? Well, no! However, he is fast enough that to any human there would be no difference. I doubt that even the Earth's scientists could be able to differentiate between the two speeds (even though there is a difference, and it is substantial ....eg the Flash can outrun instantaneous teleportation).
Now, to speed add uber-strength (I use 'uber' to differentiate it from the strength of characters like the Thing). Add invulnerability (on our earth Superman would be TOTALLY invincible .....there would be no kryptonite, no magic, no Phantom Zone .....nothing that could harm or hurt him even a wee bit. If a Kryptonite poisoned Superman can withstand a point-blank nuke, imagine what a healthy Superman on our world could withstand! He would be 100% invulnerable).
Then add his other powers .....the senses, the offensive abilities, the synergy between his various powers.He would never be stopped, and he could take over just as fast as the Flash could (as stated, we would never be able to tell the difference between their two speeds. If both went at top speed, one - the Flash - would seem to be all over the world at the same time, while the other - Superman- would seem to be at several places at the same time. A major difference between the two, but one that would be next to impossible to pick up). The world's military powers would be totally useless, and even if he was caught off guard (hard to do with Superman's senses) there is no way they would be able to hurt him.
GREEN LANTERN:
A Green Lantern could also take over quite easily. The ring can do anything, from constructs to even telepathy (it is not often used, but rings have been shown to be used for tp). Also a GL would be invulnerable since the ring would automatically protect the wielder.
Anyways, a GL who knows how to use the ring could seriously do a lot of havoc.
A GL could take over the earth, and keep his rule intact and strong. And since the ring has infinite charge, and it constantly takes care of (and protects) him, the GL wouldn't have to worry about an 'ooops' situation.
Hopefully the ring is immune to yellow (or in Alan's case wood).THOR:
The son of Odin could also rule the earth, and his rule would be safe. Now, the ease of that rule depends on just how well he can use Mjolnir.
The thing is, most writers simply write Thor using his war-hammer as a bloody club.
However a few writings have shown Thor using Mjolnir as it should be used .....as one of the most powerful weapons out there.
If Thor uses mjolnir as he is normally depicted using it (that is, as a club) then he would not be effective. He wouldn't be defeated, but he wouldn't be able to take over the world.
HOWEVER, if he used Mjolnir as it should, he could appear anywhere on earth, instantly crushing rebellion. He would be unstoppable.Characters like the Juggernaut wouldn't be very effective. Actually the wouldn't be able to take over the world!
Why?
Well, think of it this way. The Juggernaut can only be in one place at a single time. Secondly he is not able to move anywhere very fast.
This means that while he would be unstoppable, he wouldn't be able to stop parallel rebellions breaking out in Asia Europe, Africa, Australia, South America etc if he is in North America!
He is too limited.
Actually he wouldn't be able to stop an uprising in New Jersey if he was only a few miles away in New York.
Insurgencies would break out everywhere, and while they wouldn't be able to harm Cain, Cain would also not be able to quell them.
He would be a useless conqueror .....unstoppable, but not a conqueror.BTW the same oculd be said about the Hulk. While the Hulk could travel faster than Cain (eg the Hulk can jump several times with each bound) he would still not be able to quell dissension and uprisings across the globe (or for that matter across a time-zone).
Characters like Superman could easily take down uprisings around the globe.Anyways, the best characters are:
1) Superman/Green Lantern
2) The Flash
3) Thor/MagnetoThe rest fall below.
The reason is it is not about power only (if it was pure power then even the Hulk or Juggernaut could be contenders).
It is also about the ability to APPLY that power, and apply it EFFECTIVELY.Characters like the Flash, Superman, Green Lantern and Thor (if properly written) could do all of the above.
Characters like Juggernaut would be invincible, but they would have severe mobility issues and be unable to crush insurgencies breaking out all across the globe (imagine what would happen if a superhuman started going about conquering places .....the world would be in an uproar, and just because the character was strong wouldn't make people not rise up. Look at the situation in Iraq .....the insurgents/terrorists are weak against the American military, but they still rise up and attack using assymetric warfare techniques. They will not have the guts to face an American soldier face to face, but they will just go ahead an plant an IED that kills 5 soldiers. Thus, just because the Juggernaut is powerful doesn't mean people will simply lay down and surrender).
Other characters like Xavier could easily take over the world, and do it in total stealth. However keeping it that way over years and years would be hard to do. It would be hard to stop 'lone wolves' from rising up, and the only way Xavier could do that is by staying hooked up to Cerebra/bro constantly.
Not much of a life.
Also if he made a single mistake it could cause him his life (since a bullet would kill him as easily as it would a gopher).
While ti would probably take him years to do so Cai ncould get the entire frces of Earth behind him just through sheer fear of opposing him. And with no way to stop him after so many rebelions have have been destroyed by Cain and any forces he could get no one would oppose. Him same thign Superman Rebellions could always break out against him.
Plus with flgith travel it wouldn't take long for Cain to get from one corner of the world to another to quell an uprising.
Originally posted by Newjak
While I do agree he won't be the fastest Juggernaut could conquer the entire world if he wanted. First off his strength is enough to cause Earthquakes and Massive Damage to cities. The fear alone of him coming to your town would probably be enough to make most people stay put. Simply because unlike American Soldiers Cain cann;t be stopped or killed has no qualms about really getting his point across by oblietrating entire towns and he doesn't need to eat sleep or drink.While ti would probably take him years to do so Cai ncould get the entire frces of Earth behind him just through sheer fear of opposing him. And with no way to stop him after so many rebelions have have been destroyed by Cain and any forces he could get no one would oppose. Him same thign Superman Rebellions could always break out against him.
Plus with flgith travel it wouldn't take long for Cain to get from one corner of the world to another to quell an uprising.
Please note that Juggs can be trapped. Remember the quicksand concrete thing with Spider-man. He might be unstoppable but not immovable (when standing still). I like spetznaz post alot though.