I was only commenting on the differences between the UN and CN.
In an actual duel between Reed w/UN and Roma w/CN?
Roma is a curbstomp.
Before Reed can react Roma slaps the UN out of his hands and Uses it on him.
Or Roma teleports the UN out of his hands.
Or Roma goes back in time to when Reed didn't have the UN.
Or Roma goes back in time to moment before Reed click the button, and fries him.
Or Roma teleports his brain out of his head before his thumb can squeeze.
Or Roma simply clicks the CN first.
There are counltless ways for Roma to obliterate Reed even without the CN,
while Reed may have his Nullifier.
Originally posted by bean_machine
"In mathematics the addition of two minuses equals a plus" ?The addition of two minuses equals a greater minus.
The product of two minuses is a positive.
I'm sure they meant in the sense of Multiplying,
which as we know, negative x negative = positive.
Though they definitely used an improper term.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Know what?That there are NO Galactus' outside the 616 Multiverse?
Right here:
"Realms lacking this Hierarchy of power are Outside the Multiverse"The Hierarchy being Eternity, the Abstracts and so on,
Galactus is part of this bunch as you know, his purpose is tied into Eternity.
No Eternity ... no need for Galactus. 🙂
🙄
I doubt it.
The trick to re-creating what has become Nothingness,
is to Nullify nothingness.
I don't see why this same maneuver can't be pull off with the CN.
Galactus maybe doesn't exist in the form that we know him LT has to change hid M-body when he in patroling other multiverses so I don't see he problem in Galactus existing but in another form.
Now you are speculating, there are no profes of the UN beinging capable of destroying the omniverse, but there is also no proof on the CN beinging capable of bringing back a recently destroyed universe 😛
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
I know the IG is above the UN....would the CN be above the IG?
I'm not sure.
The CN and UN work differently, plus the CN obliterates a Universe more completely.
The UN consist of an all ecompassing omnidirectional blast, to erase a Universe.
The CN is not a weapon that fires,
the CN contains the Life-Force of every Universe in 4" Crystals.
Break the fragile Crystal, and the Universe it corresponds to,
disappears from existence.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I can't say.There's no proof that hints either way imo.
I would say that The UN can kill Roma maybe its a little of track but Abraxas sort of killed Roma, and the UN was the only thing that could kill Abraxas the CN couldn't have done that. Don't know about Merlyn but Roma isn't on the same level as her father.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Galactus maybe doesn't exist in the form that we know him LT has to change hid M-body when he in patroling other multiverses so I don't see he problem in Galactus existing but in another form.
Galactus has NEVER stepped out of the prime Multiverse.
There are NO Eternity's outside, so there can be NO Galactus' either.
LT deals with life-forms that neither resemble or have anything to do,
with the prime Multiverse hierarchy.
Don't speculate when the Official Handbook exlpains it cleraly. 🙂
Originally posted by Utrigita
Now you are speculating, there are no profes of the UN beinging capable of destroying the omniverse,
Correct.
Originally posted by Utrigita
but there is also no proof on the CN beinging capable of bringing back a recently destroyed universe
It's not speculation friend,
"the Nullifier holds the key to the Universe's Resurrection,
if we were to use the device to Nullify Nothingness, around us that would,
in effect, CREATE something ... perhaps everything as it was"
Was Dr Strange talking out of his ass?
Nah,
the last remnants of Eternity's Spirit appeared, and asked NOT to be REVIVED, into a Universe.
So again,
Nullify Nothingness, and you Re-Create what was Nullified to begin with. 🙂
CN can do that easily.
Originally posted by Galan007
Good point.It is FAR more difficult to remake, then it is to destroy.
UN.
Either Nullifier can create by Nullifiying Nothingness.
CN or UN.
"the Nullifier holds the key to the Universe's Resurrection,
if we were to use the device to Nullify Nothingness, around us that would,
in effect, CREATE something ... perhaps everything as it was"
Was Dr Strange talking out of his ass?
Nah,
the last remnants of Eternity's Spirit appeared, and asked NOT to be REVIVED, into a Universe.
Originally posted by Galan007
Ok, but I've never seen the CN remake anything.I was under the impression that it's sole purpose was to destroy.
If the Un can remake by Nullifying Nothingness,
then so can the CN by Nullying Nothingness.
Originally posted by Galan007
So until I see the CN remake a Multiverse on panel,I'm still going with the UN here.
The CN erases Reality more completely than the UN,
so infact, the Celestial Nullifier is the more powerful weapon.
When a Universe is erased with the UN,
remnants of the Sentience of the Universe are left lingering.
With the CN, absolutely NOTHING is left.
Originally posted by Galan007
But the CN never has remade a Universe, let alone a Multiverse right?That's why I'm going with the UN.
Actually the thread is Reed with the UN vs Roma with the CN.
Roma wins in a curbstomp, without the CN.
On the other hand, it depends how you look at it.
The CN has access to ALL the Universes in the Omniverse.
The CN erases Reality completely.
The UN re-created the Multiverse.
The UN does NOT erase Reality completely.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Galactus has NEVER stepped out of the prime Multiverse.There are NO Eternity's outside, so there can be NO Galactus' either.
LT deals with life-forms that neither resemble or have anything to do,
with the prime Multiverse hierarchy.
Don't speculate when the Official Handbook exlpains it cleraly. 🙂
Correct.
It's not speculation friend,
"the Nullifier holds the key to the Universe's Resurrection,
if we were to use the device to Nullify Nothingness, around us that would,
in effect, CREATE something ... perhaps everything as it was"
Was Dr Strange talking out of his ass?
Nah,
the last remnants of Eternity's Spirit appeared, and asked NOT to be REVIVED, into a Universe.
So again,
Nullify Nothingness, and you Re-Create what was Nullified to begin with. 🙂
CN can do that easily.
Strange wasn't talking out of his ass but about the UN and he was only thinking to know and think are two opposite ideas, you can speculate that the CN are capable of remaking a universe ore multiverse, but don't forget that the CN are working in a another way then the UN the UN uses it owns energy to destroy something, now the CN uses the crystal containing the life force of a certain universe the 258 for instance to have it destroyed. Now how are we going to make a universe again when we have just vaporized the crystal.
How do you know that remnants are left after a blast from the UN, scans ore Bio you have just maked a long point in abraxas thread about that nullifying is complete destruction of a universe then how can anything be left. Nothing was left after Reed pulled the trigger.
glue perhaps 🙄
