Originally posted by Board Walker
I suppose time being here means nothing thenWhy are you even relying on the godwave to save her? She has all her gear and items, do you even read DC comics?
This thread shows how many uninformed members we have, that and how many blind fanboys we have, it reminds me of GS phoenix days.
And even if she chose to use the godwave, she crosses her bracelets and she has complete and ever lasting invincibility as long as she wants.
If you are going to mention something specific expect me to refute that claim, or agree with it. Other than her bracelets, you haven't said anything else specific, just "gear" or whatever. You mentioned the Godwave as a method for defeating the surfer.
Originally posted by Board WalkerIt's had one appearance in comics that I know of with Diana, the Gods of Olympus granted her request. I've only flipped through it don't particularly remember it well. It appeared to increase her physical powers tremendously; care to recollect me on what other abilities it gave her that would be relevant to this fight?
This is really pushing it...I respect you x, but do you read DC comics, or actually know what you are talking about with when it comes to the godwave and Diana?
There was a time on the forum where "WW with the Godwave" was likened to the Source, thus it has been overhyped.
Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
I mentioned the Godwave beacuse in your previous post you singled out the godwave.If you are going to mention something specific expect me to refute that claim, or agree with it. Other than her bracelets, you haven't said anything else specific, just "gear" or whatever. You mentioned the Godwave as a method for defeating the surfer.
Since you do not know bout Diana or DC much it seems, I will help you, to be honest I thought more knew about Dc characters rather then just purely marvel characters.
Anyway all her gear means the following:
1. Sword
2. Tiara
3. Gauntlets
4. Boots
5. Armor
6. Lasso
7. Bracelets
8. Godwave
I know I'm forgeting some.
Anyway, SS isnt speed blitzing anyone, when some one can keep up with Zoom (who can speed blitz flash), then SS isn't speed blitzing her if his life depended on it, add on top of that with her having the boots, really its not a concern.
SS matter manipulating her? I suppose if he can get past the magic of hers, its the same as saying "Oh SS will turn Thor into cheese" its not happening.
So really, it comes down to combat, which SS doesn't have the edge in to begin with, that with her having all her gear? SS is literarly going to be diced into many pieces (the sword kills skyfathers).
Now on top of all of this, she has the godwave, which is able to destroy DC (check out Ares run).
Originally posted by Board Walker
Since you do not know bout Diana or DC much it seems, I will help you, to be honest I thought more knew about Dc characters rather then just purely marvel characters.Anyway all her gear means the following:
1. Sword
2. Tiara
3. Gauntlets
4. Boots
5. Armor
6. Lasso
7. Bracelets
8. Godwave
Ok
so i ask you, using all these tools, how does Diana overcome the power output gap and most importantly range differential between the two?
i understand her crossing of bracelets would be very useful to negate the range thing, at the same time shes going to uncross eventually. It'd be very out of character for her to stay crossed for the duration of an entire battle.
IMO, other gear aside, to me, it seems like your implying shes going to sit arms crossed, indefinately.
to summarize:
Originally posted by Cosmic FlameAnd how would WW defeat Surfer is she just kept her bracelets crossed?
Originally posted by Board Walker
Since you do not know bout Diana or DC much it seems, I will help you, to be honest I thought more knew about Dc characters rather then just purely marvel characters.Anyway all her gear means the following:
1. Sword
2. Tiara
3. Gauntlets
4. Boots
5. Armor
6. Lasso
7. Bracelets
8. Godwave
You are such a pain. When did I say I didn't know what her gear was? All I did was argue against the Godwave, which you brought up. Once again, you mentioned something and I argued against it, but you are mad because I didn't ague against all her gear. You said godwave, I said it wasn't going to help.
Originally posted by Board WalkerThat's not all her gear. 🙂
Since you do not know bout Diana or DC much it seems, I will help you, to be honest I thought more knew about Dc characters rather then just purely marvel characters.Anyway all her gear means the following:
1. Sword
2. Tiara
3. Gauntlets
4. Boots
5. Armor
6. Lasso
7. Bracelets
8. Godwave
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's had one appearance in comics that I know of with Diana, the Gods of Olympus granted her request. I've only flipped through it don't particularly remember it well. It appeared to increase her physical powers tremendously; care to recollect me on what other abilities it gave her that would be relevant to this fight?There was a time on the forum where "WW with the Godwave" was likened to the Source, thus it has been overhyped.
X the godwave is power from the source, its explained in the comics, the godwave is power directly from the source.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Okso i ask you, using all these tools, how does Diana overcome the power output gap and most importantly [b]range
differential between the two?
i understand her crossing of bracelets would be very useful to negate the range thing, at the same time shes going to uncross eventually. It'd be very out of character for her to stay crossed for the duration of an entire battle.IMO, other gear aside, to me, it seems like your implying shes going to sit arms crossed, indefinately.
to summarize: [/B]
Board Walker is going to say since I don't know this I am a Marvel Fan Boy etc.
Originally posted by Board WalkerYou didn't answer my question about whether the Godwave granted her anything relevant to a fight with SS, other than enhancing her physically.
X the godwave is power from the source, its explained in the comics, the godwave is power directly from the source.
I know where it comes from. Surfer's power was originally from Galactus, that doesn't make him anywhere near as powerful as Galactus.
Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Range differential is huge here. Does anyone know how far WW can see. I will honestly admit to not knowing that.Board Walker is going to say since I don't know this I am a Marvel Fan Boy etc.
I'm sorry for calling you a fanboy, I should have said "uninformed individual".
Really, after being here for a few years, it is obvious that 80% of the members here are fanboys, who make one sided claims without knowing a thing about the other side; in particular when it comes to DC.
If anything the majority of the comics I read and own are Marvel, which characters do I like more? Marvel. But it does not mean I wont argue for the one who is obviously more likely to win in a fight.
Originally posted by Board WalkerAnyway, SS isnt speed blitzing anyone, when some one can keep up with Zoom (who can speed blitz flash), then SS isn't speed blitzing her if his life depended on it, add on top of that with her having the boots, really its not a concern.
SS matter manipulating her? I suppose if he can get past the magic of hers, its the same as saying "Oh SS will turn Thor into cheese" its not happening.
So really, it comes down to combat, which SS doesn't have the edge in to begin with, that with her having all her gear? SS is literarly going to be diced into many pieces (the sword kills skyfathers).
Now on top of all of this, she has the godwave, which is able to destroy DC (check out Ares run).
Honestly, and im really not trying to come off as rude or anything so please dont take it that way, but just as you called someone out for seemingly not knowing anythign about diana, this is pertty undermineing of SS's power
According to this post, Surfer is now moving in slow-motion compaired to diana, and Suddenly surfer isint using close range blasts, not to mention any of his cosmic awareness.
According to this scenario, surfer goes to attack diana and diana effortlessly slices him in half in a trunks-freiza esque manner
Originally posted by Board Walker
"uninformed individual"
Well I am sorry you are just a master debater. I mean you are totally right, WW can totally beat SS beacuse she is invulnerable when she uses her bracelets.
That is pretty much the only argument you have made regarding how SS can't beat her, but that doesn't exactly help her win does it?
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Honestly, and im really not trying to come off as rude or anything so please dont take it that way, but just as you called someone out for seemingly not knowing anythign about diana, this is pertty undermineing of SS's powerAccording to this post, Surfer is now moving in slow-motion compaired to diana, and Suddenly surfer isint using close range blasts, not to mention any of his cosmic awareness.
According to this scenario, surfer goes to attack diana and diana effortlessly slices him in half in a trunks-freiza esque manner
I know of every single one of SS speed feats, as well as almost every one of his comic appearances, I have seen his time traveling feats, his blitzing feats.
When compared to Flash's speed feats though, Surfer does not compare, in particular Flash's nuke feat which out classes all of Surfers speed feats.
Now zoom is some one who schooled flash in speed, and when some one can keep up with Zoom it means they likely can keep up with SS and other "fast" individuals
Originally posted by Mider999
her weapons can cut superman some of them, some have killed god like beasts have they not, her lasso is unbreakable, and shoots lightning doesnt it, her shield has repelled skyfathers, surfer aint getting through that. his speed is the only true advantage surfer has here.
This is a much better argument. I acknowledge the power that WW's gear grants her, but I think that speed and range create powerful advantages for SS. He can launch planet destroying blasts from multiple angles at the same time, and be in no fear of losing his energy. If we put more restrictions on this fight it would favor WW, but SS's range as earlier mentioned will help him to win this fight. If we for instance restricted this to earth it would be a vastly different battle.