Originally posted by Endless Mike
If we want to do this scientifically, we could say that, at most, Surfer could destroy a solar system, while Odin could destroy a galaxy (this is simplified, likely they could both destroy more, but the ratio is pretty much the same).Anyway, due to the inverse - square law (I did these calculations earlier for something else), it takes about 1e68j of energy to destroy a solar system the size of our own, and 1e82j to destroy a galaxy the size of our own.
That makes Odin equal to approximately 100,000,000,000,000 Surfers
Negative!
Originally posted by Skeets
Surfer didn't get an upgrade.All Galactus did was remove some of his mental blocks which held him back.
I don't see how your wouldn't consider it an upgrade. Maybe he did remove some of the blocks, but he also gave him more power. Look at what Ravenous says to him about what have you become.
He definitly did something to SS which made him more powerful, not just more willing to use his power.
Which sounds a lot like an upgrade to me.
When people think about this they also need to think about what SS is to Galactus. I mean if SS is 2% of Galactus, what % is Odin?
I tend to think that 100 SS could take down pretty much any sky father.
Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
When people think about this they also need to think about what SS is to Galactus. I mean if SS is 2% of Galactus, what % is Odin?I tend to think that 100 SS could take down pretty much any sky father.
Thats actually a pretty logical way of looking at it. I would say Odin is about 40-50% of Galactus's power. So if Surfer is roughly 1% of G's power, Odin is likely between 40-50 times more powerful than SS.
Originally posted by nimbus006
Thats actually a pretty logical way of looking at it. I would say Odin is about 40-50% of Galactus's power. So if Surfer is roughly 1% of G's power, Odin is likely between 40-50 times more powerful than SS.
That is pretty much how I have it, only with SS at 2%, so Odin is roughly 20x more powerful.
Originally posted by Priest
yep it was infinity's power. still immpressive since infinity is a aspect of Odin.
From Wikipedia, not sure how accurate it is.
A cosmic entity known as "Infinity" appears in Thor #184-188, but acts quite differently from the Infinity in Quasar. It is therefore unlikely that the two are the same character, though the Marvel Universe Handbook: Master Edition considers them both to be the same character. This Infinity was created by Stan Lee and John Buscema in 1971. It was later revealed in the Quasar series that the Asgardian king Odin had tapped into a fraction of Infinity's power creating the "Infinity" that appeared in the Thor series. This being, while wielding a fraction of Infinity's power, did not represent the actual Infinity.
Originally posted by leonidas
yep, though there is some issue i think regarding whether or not that was infinity's power.of course, i could be recalling the wrong incident . . . ? 😕
It may have been retconned, but as far as I know Infinity was a aspect of Odin's mind awakened by Hela during his Odin Sleep.
Infinity was consuming the universe using a small fraction of the Odin power, soon later Odin was awakened by Loki. Odin then easily defeated Infinity claiming that there is only one Odin. Odin then restored all planets that were destroyed during the process, and wiped the minds of those who had memory of the event.
The scans are in the Odin respect thread.
Originally posted by I watch Pokemon
From Wikipedia, not sure how accurate it is.A cosmic entity known as "Infinity" appears in Thor #184-188, but acts quite differently from the Infinity in Quasar. It is therefore unlikely that the two are the same character, though the Marvel Universe Handbook: Master Edition considers them both to be the same character. This Infinity was created by Stan Lee and John Buscema in 1971. It was later revealed in the Quasar series that the Asgardian king Odin had tapped into a fraction of Infinity's power creating the "Infinity" that appeared in the Thor series. This being, while wielding a fraction of Infinity's power, did not represent the actual Infinity.
Odin hadn't tapped into anyones power. Odin was asleep during the duration of the event, thus is the reason Hela was able to pull out an aspect of his mind. Hela than gave the "evil" Odin the name Infinity.
Meaning that the Infinity that appeared in Thor 188# is a completely different character that the abstract Infinity.
Originally posted by JyppeThe exact wording...
And how that's not an upgrade? He now could access power which he could before and use it more freely. Sounds like an upgrade to me. Aaaand someone was definately saying that Galactus did give him moar powah. Can't be sure though.
Galactus: "I can heal you. I can renew your will, grant you new power, take away the remorse..."
Surfer: "No. Give me the will to do what must be done. Let my remorse define me."
It's ambiguous, but it does Not sound like Surfer is rejecting the "new power."
But he still didn't budge against a full on blast of power cosmic.Full on blast? Since when does Surfer full on blast anything?
Where do people get the 1% of Galactus from?
If you were to read the first time SS rebelled against Galactus,Galactus himself was surprised how powerful Surfer was.Galactus himself said that he's never really seen Surfer's true power.
That's when Galactus removed Surfer's Space and Time powers.
Which he got back in the 80's
Originally posted by Skeets
Where do people get the 1% of Galactus from?
If you were to read the first time SS rebelled against Galactus,Galactus himself was surprised how powerful Surfer was.Galactus himself said that he's never really seen Surfer's true power.That's when Galactus removed Surfer's Space and Time powers.
Which he got back in the 80's
Still though he's not nearly as powerful as Odin.😬
