Most Badass Leader in History?

Originally posted by Lord Coal
I'm British. He was French. Do the math. 😛

And Utrigita, WTF are you on about? Elizabeth of England? How was she badass? (Whichever one you're on about)

Mary I was the complete ***** who persecuted her own people. Elizabeth I was just a frigid ginger cow, and Elizabeth II is, well, kinda pointless...

I was talking collecting land and building up a empire hence the reason I put her on the line with Ghengis Khan he was badass in conquering and Elisabeth I did kill her own family to ensure her stay on power, and to builded up the greatest empire this world has ever seen you are english begin counting the colonies.

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Hitler.

Try Stalin who killed a good 20 million unlike Hitler with only 12 million.

try mao and come back

Yes, but in percentage measurements, Pol Pot was the worst, he killed about half of his people.

Vlad the Impaler, real life Dracula, slaughtered entire families, and destroyed the Byzantine army before it could far into Romania where he ruled, also he did drink the blood of his enemies so... thats pretty badass

Originally posted by lancethebrave
Vlad the Impaler, real life Dracula, slaughtered entire families, and destroyed the Byzantine army before it could far into Romania where he ruled, also he did drink the blood of his enemies so... thats pretty badass

Keep in mind that Vlad was forced to witness the "slaughter" of his Own family at a young age. That by itself is enough reason to make you want to "go crazy".

so? hes still more bad ass then plenty of leaders, just because of trauma doesn't make one anymore less of a man.

Hannibal.

Originally posted by lancethebrave
so? hes still more bad ass then plenty of leaders, just because of trauma doesn't make one anymore less of a man.

I never said trauma would make anyone less of a person. He is definately bad ass. Now calm down sweety.

I'm calm 🤣 just thought you were forming an argument... and i try so hard not to assume anything 🙁

Originally posted by lancethebrave
I'm calm 🤣 just thought you were forming an argument... and i try so hard not to assume anything 🙁

It's ok 😄 , i am definately a Vlad lover myself.

Stonewall Jackson.

Originally posted by fruits
i realize by asking who's the biggest badass in history, i'm not really keeping this professional, but im really just wondering what you all think??

In my opinion.....Andrew Jackson. One of the toughest most BA guys in american history. During the War of 1812, in the battle at New Orleans, he could convince anyone off the street to pick up a gun and come fight for the cause. He did what he wanted. That battle was the bloodiest of the war. And all the duels he was involved in? while he was the general in that battle, he currently had a bullet lodged in his chest from a previous duel. I'm not supporting his actions, like the whole trail of tears thing, but he's just such a bamf.

That's my opinion.......what do you think?

Can it be a general, or does it have to be a politician/monarch?

Originally posted by Utrigita
Elisabeth I did kill her own family to ensure her stay on power

Oh? Who?

He wasn't a national leader, but I nominate Hernan Cortez, a man with big balls of steel. From the burning of his own ships, to returning to Tenochticlan after La Noche Triste his campaign in Mexico was a big show of badassitude, technological advantage notwithstanding.

Vlad the Impaler. He'd kill thousands of people just by putting huge stakes in the ground for his enemies to fall and get f*cking shish-kabobed.

Assurbanipal II

http://www.american-pictures.com/genealogy/persons/per01997.htm

He basically founded the first Empire in History, The Assyrian Empire. He literally took the brutality of the ancient world onto a new stage of destruction and subordination. His walls in his palace have carvings and paintings of the many thousands he impalled and decapitated commonly. Also his armies where known to create piles of heads and hands of those they annihliated. Yet this was not different from many of the Kings who followed him but he was the first and they all strived to be like him.

Originally posted by RaventheOnly
Assurbanipal II

http://www.american-pictures.com/genealogy/persons/per01997.htm

He basically founded the first Empire in History, The Assyrian Empire. He literally took the brutality of the ancient world onto a new stage of destruction and subordination. His walls in his palace have carvings and paintings of the many thousands he impalled and decapitated commonly. Also his armies where known to create piles of heads and hands of those they annihliated. Yet this was not different from many of the Kings who followed him but he was the first and they all strived to be like him.

I was under the impression that the world's first known Emperor, was Sargon The Great, of Akkad. Whom many Assyrian Kings claimed descent from.

Hammurabi

Originally posted by Penelope
I was under the impression that the world's first known Emperor, was Sargon The Great, of Akkad. Whom many Assyrian Kings claimed descent from.

Your right, i mixed up the names its Ashur-nasir-pal II who is the first _ . _ who did basically the same thing as Assurbanipal II in the means of brutality. Sargon the Great was an early early King but really Sargon II is far more recent. Sargon the Great is a bit more mythical, he ruled in Sumeria in like 2000 BC and truly just killed a lot of people with brilliant strategy. He founded th Assyrian kingdom and its line but not until Ashur did the kingdom go empire.

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9009857/Ashurnasirpal-II

http://www.allempires.com/article/index.php?q=Sargon_Great