Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Considering the fact that Wolverine's speed is increased due to his constant training that a POWERLESS HUMAN could not do, it's due to his superhuman body structure that he's so quick.Any feat of quickness with him is attributed to that, kiddo. If he didn't have that body, he'd be in trouble.
That would require Wolverine to have never had his healing factor or to be powerless for months to allow his muscle mass to deteriorate. He wouldn't suddenly physically weaken because he lost his healing factor, over time he might find it impossible to maintain his body at its current level with out his healing factor, but he isn't going to up an lose his strength/speed since they aren't a direct part of his mutation.
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
I think you've got Danny and Shang-Chi mixed up. Shang's the one who uses a constant Chi-amp when facing a superpowered opponent, though for some reason he wasn't using it when he fought Wolverine. I'm guessing the writer probably didn't know much about Shang.Correct me if I'm wrong, but hadn't Shang taken down two other X-Men by himself before he fought Wolverine?
Not shange chi did not he fought two ninja's and wolverien showed up and killed two other ninja's and scared the other's away.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
i agree with accellof the people you listed
danny is the most "human" of all of them
more akin to black cat than any of the ability using MA's
he somewhat kept up with DD chi'less for a little, but then he was forced to resort to it
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That would require Wolverine to have never had his healing factor or to be powerless for months to allow his muscle mass to deteriorate. He wouldn't suddenly physically weaken because he lost his healing factor, over time he might find it impossible to maintain his body at its current level with out his healing factor, but he isn't going to up an lose his strength/speed since they aren't a direct part of his mutation.
I wasn't trying to imply they were. Consider them fringe benefits, if you will. If he did lose his mutant powers, his muscles would probably eventually atrophy to the point where he's more along the lines of a normal human.
Originally posted by capt it up
he was forced to resort to the IF not chi amping. He was msot likly chi amped the whole time. He pritty much constantly amps his agility and reflexes.
ERR, yeah, your right
thats actually what i ment
chi amping is the wrong word
i ment to say in principle he was forced to use an extra-ability
and if my posts sounded hostile (earlier) i apologize, i assure you thier is no ill blood between us 🙂
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
I wasn't trying to imply they were. Consider them fringe benefits, if you will. If he did lose his mutant powers, his muscles would probably eventually atrophy to the point where he's more along the lines of a normal human.
He already defeat many of the top tier martial artist with little trouble when has DP done this?
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
ERR, yeah, your right
thats actually what i ment
chi amping is the wrong wordi ment to say in principle he was forced to use an extra-ability
and if my posts sounded hostile (earlier) i apologize, i assure you thier is no ill blood between us 🙂
sound's good. We got no problems.
Danny and shang-chi in my oppinion pritty much constantly have there agility and reflexes amp along with some strength.
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
I wasn't trying to imply they were. Consider them fringe benefits, if you will. If he did lose his mutant powers, his muscles would probably eventually atrophy to the point where he's more along the lines of a normal human.
Then whats the problem? The fight wasn't long enough for his stamina to come into play. He wasn't hit so his healing factor never came into play. Unless you think his senses are a huge trump card in a direct melee confrontation, then I fail to see what the problem is. If Wolverine was wearing an inhibitor collar the fight would have gone the exact same way.
Originally posted by masterbruce
Newsflash: Wolverine is the most despised and pick-on character on KMC. If anyone's worshipped as a god here, it's the unhittable Spider-Man!!!
Do you ever have anything of value to say? Really, I wonder this.
If you've got nothing nice to say, then please, just don't say anything at all. Please.
Deadpool vs Wolverine
7/10 for Wolverine IMO.
I know he has lost against DP but honestly, that was really bad writing. There is a great collection of bad written fights in comic history, like Batman owning Hulk. I'm a Batman fan as you may guess but the way he won was dumb as hell, sry. Batman has almost no chance against the Hulk, unprepared I mean 😉.
Wolverine is in my opinion a nice char, maybe a bit overrated but full of potential, just because a lot of his stories suck doesn't mean he is as bad.
The writers are biased as hell, like most of us 😉, one has always to consider this before judging a fight. IF you write a comic you can beat the ass of everyone, doesn't matter how likely it is or not. And Wolverine, properly written, is Captain Americas or Batmans equal if it comes to one-on-one fighting, and Deadpool is faaar away from this.
But well this is only my opinion 😉.
PS: Wolverine without his healing factor feels the pain and is injured everytime he uses his claws, this pain alone would be sufficient enough to let a normal human loose consciousness or feel sick (drunk whatever). The fact that he is able to fight speaks for him, but it is also a fact that he is at an disadvantage due to this.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555i suppose you think it's inconsequential that wolverine was drugged up like crazy before that little spat.. and fought numerous thugs, and fought scourge before that?
heres the other DP/wolverine skirmish i said their were no negative variables and although EXTREMELY breif, clearly, DP has the upper hand
(again, this is a vauge fight, though so not a terrible ammount of evidence to go off of. still, a good showing)http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine155082gf.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine15509101zt.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine155114wg.jpg
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Wolverine and Deadpool have never had real fight that would qualify in the debate. There always an out side circumstance such as a healing factor on the frizt or one sided prep or one of the characters is drugged up. So we must go by feat and the character’s overall ability.
Fighting skill wise they are both extremely skilled how ever Wolverine is a top tier fighter while Deadpool is not quite as high. This area will matter a lot in such a fight. Deadpool does not have feats such as this
X-Men 97 hellfire Hong Kong guest –starring Shang-chi master of king-fu issue 97: Wolverine defeats Shan-chi in h2h combat rather easily showing Logan as the superior martial artist. It only takes Logan 5 panels to accomplish this.
Or this
Logan defeating Daredevil in a fist fight with in 5 panels
http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelcomicspresents151oo2.jpg
Now in term’s of healing factor’s deadpool has a slight edge which will help him in battle however his not being as skilled has Logan will mean he will be taking far more hit’s with very deadly weapon’s.
Now in terms of durability Logan is the superior he has had his muscles chemically altered making his muscles in humanly durable. He also on top of that his skeleton is far denser then that of a normal human’s with out adamatium on it. Now when you add the adamatium on the skeleton and Wolverines durability dwarf’s that of Deadpools.
Now we get into reflexes. Wolverine has superior showing in reflex department. He has been stated in ( weapon x noval) to see bullet’s in slow motion.
Marvel Finest Wolverine WeaponX The Origin Of Wolverine🙁Author Barry Windsor-Smith: Wolverine is shown to see bullets coming at him in slow motion when a bunch of guards fire at him.
Wolverine catching a bullet.
http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolbulletnd9qi6.jpg
In my opinion wolverine through superior skill will take the majority. Wolverine also however as I have shown has superior showings in reflex and is also Wades superior in durability.
Originally posted by capt it up
Wolverine catching a bullet.
http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolbulletnd9qi6.jpg
Originally posted by jinzin
i suppose you think it's inconsequential that wolverine was drugged up like crazy before that little spat.. and fought numerous thugs, and fought scourge before that?
i had no idea
i didnt think thier were any variables
nevertheless
the only "normal" fight DP and wolverine have had was their last
and that still, had a bit of a variable hanging over it
yet it still brings a smile to my face that dp had the upper hand in almost all of them 🙂 😆
