Originally posted by capt it up
how did Deadpool show way's of beeing faster then wolverine? you mean by hitting spiderman like wolverine has done many times before.
Wow, once again it's not just about hitting Spiderman it was how Deadpool was swinging around and bouncing around the bridge with Spiderman.
If you don't like that, that's your problem🙂
Not to mention Deadpool has shown in fights that he can use situations to his advantage and his speed/agility.
Originally posted by Soleran
Wow, once again it's not just about hitting Spiderman it was how Deadpool was swinging around and bouncing around the bridge with Spiderman.
what are you talking about? He hit spiderman once by swing around a bar. That's not impressive and it not even a feat. He ened up getting his ass kicked.
Originally posted by Soleran
If you don't like that, that's your problem🙂
Originally posted by Soleran
Not to mention Deadpool has shown in fights that he can use situations to his advantage and his speed/agility.
Originally posted by capt it up
and wolverine has not? also again please show some evidence that Deadpool has superior reflexes to wolverine or skill.
A simple fact that DP left Wolverine skewered through his lungs and left to die seems to work well enough for me.
Also the last fight with Taskmaster where DP was shackled hands and feet says DP has the skills and speed/agility.
Originally posted by Soleran
A simple fact that DP left Wolverine skewered through his lungs and left to die seems to work well enough for me.
Originally posted by Soleran
Also the last fight with Taskmaster where DP was shackled hands and feet says DP has the skills and speed/agility.
Again I asked for you to prove DP even as skilled as Logan in h2h combat. Again I ask for a prove that DP has feat’s of reflex that can even compare to logan’s
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
i had no idea
i didnt think thier were any variables
there always are...
the fights that have happened thus far:
wolverine 88: wolverine has no healing factor.. wolverine outfights deadpool but deadpool wins the fight.
deadpool 26: deadpool WANTS wolverine to beat the crap out of him...
the tide of the fight is questionable but wolverine doesn't get a clear victory.
wolverine annual 2000: wolverine beats the snot out of deadpool but PD isn't fighting back really... when deadpool does start fighting back wolverine's distracted by a werewolf...
the only other fight's that have taken place was the one you previously mentioned.
and then the one in the comic immediately before that, which is the only thing that comes even close to a straight fight between the two.
the battle tide turns throughout but wolverine gets a decided upper hand until he stops to talk to deadpool, dp kicks wolverine off and then loads him full of tranqs.. wasn't a straight win for dp though...
Originally posted by capt it up
Did you even read the issue? The whole fight was ment as a joke. He did nothing overly skill full. There was nothing really that would even come close to an actual feat.Again I asked for you to prove DP even as skilled as Logan in h2h combat. Again I ask for a prove that DP has feat’s of reflex that can even compare to logan’s
Haha once again you're opinion and frankly your opinion has been shown to be skewed time and again.
Seriously take off the Wolverine blinders🙂
Originally posted by Soleran
Haha once again you're opinion and frankly your opinion has been shown to be skewed time and again.Seriously take off the Wolverine blinders🙂
opninion? what I said was fact. You need to get beyond your wolverien hate and bring the fact's to the table which you alway's seem to leave behind.
Put down soem feat's of DeadPool fighting skill vs top tier fighter's.
Put down some of DP feats of reflex. all you have done so far is say random shit with out any scann's or issue numbers. Most of what you said you left out massive detail's of the fight.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Reasons i think DP has the edge, even if just barelyFighting ability is at the minimum, enough to contend with logan
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
better healing factor
depends on the day really.. one day deadpool regenerates from liquification.. the next he has trouble healing broken ankles from rhino.
same with logan...
at their best though, it's STILL argueable. so I say they're even, especially since wades healing factor is essentially logan's healing factor.. literally.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
better arsenal of weapons to choose from (some futureistic, dp's arsenal has been very fluctuant)
his standard stuff is katanas, machine guns, and sais.. that means about squat against logan 9 times out of 10.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
unique and "odd" tactician
CIS involved there's more than a good chance that there's nothing tactical about DP whatsoever.. so yeah that's not a point in his favor.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
any stats logan could potentially have over DP are smiply not significant enough to overpower dp's unique abilities, atleast not to the point where its out of his control to compensate for
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555fair enough.
and say his durability is a bit lower than logans, hypotheticly
if that is the case, in this fight logan doesnt have a high enough damage output for it to make a significant difference, if any at all, especially considering DP's healing factor
But i understand most of these reasons we disagree on, so as far as that goes, ultiamtely i agree to disagree
Originally posted by Metalmanx
...Wait, what? I really have a hard time understanding what you write at times. I'll try and work with what I've got.I put this 🙄 because I felt there was a bias in your statement, NOT that you don't know anything about Logan. Because you do. Quite a bit in fact.
In my opinion, their fighting skills are on par with each other.
And yes, Deadpool heals faster, and seems to have virtually no pain reception at all, while Logan does not have this luxury.
Basically, I don't feel that Wolverine is, in fact, superior to Wade. At the VERY LEAST, they're close to equal. But Wade would have the advantage, having the superior healing factor.
And can you explain to me how Wolverine gets to go to different realities and they count as canon sources, while non-616 sources don't count for other characters? 😐 If that's the case, then HOM is perfectly acceptable. Since it's still Wolverine and all.
Both who, by the way? I'm just under the assumption that is non-canon.
Different reality = Non-canon, wouldn't you agree?
wolverine has a banking firm that's capible of allowing him to access the multiverse:
Landau, Luckman and Lake offices
the reason why the HOM examples are bad is because they don't work on the same basis.. the reality that makes up the past for hom never actually took place outside of wanda's imagination so to speak...
the events that were "real time" during hom DID..
Originally posted by capt it up
opninion? what I said was fact. You need to get beyond your wolverien hate and bring the fact's to the table which you alway's seem to leave behind.
LoL, I stopped bringing scans in discussions with you in the Wolverine vs Spiderman debate at about page 400 because you prefer to rant on sidetracks and deny whats "shown."
Regardless as I said in this thread a few pages ago
It's a toss up as to who would win I can see it going either way depending on the day of the week.
Originally posted by Soleran
A simple fact that DP left Wolverine skewered through his lungs and left to die seems to work well enough for me.Also the last fight with Taskmaster where DP was shackled hands and feet says DP has the skills and speed/agility.
aside form the fact that TM was straight jobbing there....
dp didn't show any superior skills, speed or agility aside from kicking TM off of him.. 🤨
Originally posted by Soleran
LoL, I stopped bringing scans in discussions with you in the Wolverine vs Spiderman debate at about page 400 because you prefer to rant on sidetracks and deny whats "shown."
Originally posted by Soleran
Regardless as I said in this thread a few pages agoIt's a toss up as to who would win I can see it going either way depending on the day of the week.
Originally posted by Soleran
Haha once again you're opinion and frankly your opinion has been shown to be skewed time and again.
deadpool showing absolutely no skill in that fight that puts him above logan is NOT an opinion.. 😬
it's more akin to a FACT.
What did DP do that was even remotely skillful? aside from rolling to his back and kicking tm off of him?
let me tell you: NOTHING...
Hell if he was so utterly skilled he wouldn't have been impaled by tm to begin with.. but guess what..
Originally posted by Soleran
Seriously take off the Wolverine blinders🙂
I keep seeing cap ask for proof that DP is more skilled than wolverine.. so far you haven't supplied it, but you wanna keep talking about how HE sidetracks? 😕
Originally posted by jinzin
aside form the fact that TM was straight jobbing there....dp didn't show any superior skills, speed or agility aside from kicking TM off of him.. 🤨
Oh now it's jobbing, ok 😉
It boils down to the fact you don't like the feats not that they aren't a show of skill or tactics. 😉
Originally posted by Soleran
Oh now it's jobbing, ok 😉It boils down to the fact you don't like the feats not that they aren't a show of skill or tactics. 😉
have you read the issue? what did he do that was skill full? he hopped around with a punch of weapon's on him. The only thing remotly skill full was knocking task master off him
Originally posted by Soleran
Oh now it's jobbing, ok 😉
have you READ any taskmaster appearances?
how about their first fight?
of course that's all irrelivant since my real point still stands.
Originally posted by Soleran
It boils down to the fact you don't like the feats not that they aren't a show of skill or tactics. 😉
no it doesn't.. it boils down to the fact that deadpool didn't do ONE impressive thing in that so called fight to put him anywhere above logan in the skills or tactics department....
shooting tm from a rooftop? nope.
taking a hit to hit tm back? no
running away from tm? nope
dropping a collapsing wall on tm? hell no
hiding in a sandstorm and hitting tm with a tranq? na..
all deadpool did there was display his healing factor, and his ability to shoot tm in the ass with a blowdart.. that's it.
I'm sorry but Taskmaster Jobs heavily to Wade alwyas has alwyas will. Not only does he job to wade but he jobbed to Alex duringSoldier X. If people acutlaly read the comic they would see that there is something about Wade's body that Taskmaster can't copy. Infact as he pointed out he can't "see" Wade move like he can others. Ineed to find the comicbut one time they mentioned that TM's powers justplain don't work on Wade.
That doesbn't make wade some sort of great fighter at all. He isreally good but not top tier. I've seen wade get inot two fights without his healing factor. One against Punisher and one against sabertooth.
He lost both brutally. In fact they both one shotted him.