Odin vs. Zeus(DC)

Started by Soujaboy9 pages
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Not really. It's stated on panel as such. You'd be hard pressed to find a magic user in marvel who can match PS. Barring Dr. Strange, and Odin, magic in marvel isn't top tier.

False. Chaos Magic was stated to be stronger in DC than in Marvel, and chaos magic is rarely used in Marvel.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
False. Chaos Magic was stated to be stronger in DC than in Marvel, and chaos magic is rarely used in Marvel.

It was only stated that Chaos magic is stronger becuz that is all that wanda has ever tapped. Chaos and Order are equal in DC or didnt' you know that? Nabu and Mordru are equals and magic users each of Chaos and the other Order .

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It was only stated that Chaos magic is stronger becuz that is all that wanda has ever tapped. Chaos and Order are equal in DC or didnt' you know that? Nabu and Mordru are equals and magic users each of Chaos and the other Order .

Sweet. Order and Chaos are tougher then any of the lords of chaos.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Sweet. Order and Chaos are tougher then any of the lords of chaos.

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Originally posted by King Kandy
Sweet. Order and Chaos are tougher then any of the lords of chaos.

There are abstract Lords of Order and Chaos. nabu and Mordru are the most powerful. Order and Chaos themselves are not tuffer than the Lords of Order and chaos.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There are abstract Lords of Order and Chaos. nabu and Mordru are the most powerful. Order and Chaos themselves are not tuffer than the Lords of Order and chaos.

Lord Chaos is an abstract cosmic entity that embodies chaos, disorder, randomness, and formlessness. While Master Order is an abstract cosmic entity that embodies order, discipline, law, and structure. Together they ensure and represent the balance between chaos and order. Their origins are unknown. A time ago they managed to create the an abstract lv being in In-Betweener and charged him with the task of keeping the cosmos in balance for them.

Your hyped Order and Chaos aren't even comparable to these two.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Lord Chaos is an abstract cosmic entity that embodies chaos, disorder, randomness, and formlessness. While Master Order is an abstract cosmic entity that embodies order, discipline, law, and structure. Together they ensure and represent the balance between chaos and order. Their origins are unknown. A time ago they managed to create the an abstract lv being in In-Betweener and charged him with the task of keeping the cosmos in balance for them.

Your hyped Order and Chaos aren't even comparable to these two.

And thus coming from you, so far you only have the worse and lowest opinion of anything from DC. Yeah ur not biased. 🙄 They represent the same things.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And thus coming from you, so far you only have the worse and lowest opinion of anything from DC. Yeah ur not biased. 🙄 They represent the same things.

In DC Chaos and Order have been fighting a cyclical battle for eons. First Order is dominant, then Chaos, then destruction and renewal, and it starts all over. Originally, the struggle was depicted as one between Good (Order) and Evil (Chaos); it is currently depicted as a balance between stagnation and anarchy.

The two opposing forces are bundles of mystical energy who usually depend on servants to accomplish their goals. They can take physical form by possessing a living being, as in the case of Nabu or Mordru, or empower humans to act as their agents, as in the case of Terataya and T'Charr (a Lord of Order and a Lord of Chaos respectively), who empowered Hawk and Dove to act in their stead.

Not the same.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
In DC Chaos and Order have been fighting a cyclical battle for eons. First Order is dominant, then Chaos, then destruction and renewal, and it starts all over. Originally, the struggle was depicted as one between Good (Order) and Evil (Chaos); it is currently depicted as a balance between stagnation and anarchy.

The two opposing forces are bundles of mystical energy who usually depend on servants to accomplish their goals. They can take physical form by possessing a living being, as in the case of Nabu or Mordru, or empower humans to act as their agents, as in the case of Terataya and T'Charr (a Lord of Order and a Lord of Chaos respectively), who empowered Hawk and Dove to act in their stead.

Not the same.

They represent the same balance. And if you look at some of the agents of chaos and order you would realize the power lvls are unreal.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The LT was owned by an alternate REED.

Not Canon in every sense of the term.

Last Planet Standing never happened in continuity, it is Non Canon.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He even questioned his own might against the IG which was stated on panel to only be able to let the wearer take eternity's place.

Not true, LT NEVER questioned his power.

LT did need to gauge the IG's full power to determine if he could enact his Judgement against Warlock.

Here LT DETERMINES whether he HAD the power or NOT, he EVIDENTLY knew he did. (impressive but apparently LT realized he was MORE powerful)

After Warlock's "warning" of how powerful he was with the Infinity Gauntlet, LT STILL rules against him.

Anyways, the Bio clarifies LT's superiority to the IG:

(Highlight)

And even LT saying he needed to determine the IG's capacity is a bit silly

because,

They BOTH knew the outcome before it started.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
which was stated on panel to only be able to let the wearer take eternity's place.

Where is it stated On Panel that the IG's max potential is to replace Eternity?

Are you making stuff up again friend?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not Canon in every sense of the term.

Last Planet Standing never happened in continuity, it is Non Canon.

Not true, LT NEVER questioned his power.

LT did need to gauge the IG's full power to determine if he could enact his Judgement against Warlock.

Here LT DETERMINES whether he HAD the power or NOT, he EVIDENTLY knew he did.

After Warlock's "warning" of how powerful he was with the Infinity Gauntlet, LT STILL rules against him.

And even LT saying he needed to determine the IG's capacity is a bit silly

because,

They BOTH knew the outcome before it started.

Where is it stated On Panel that the IG's max potential is to replace Eternity?

Are you making stuff up again friend?

There is only one LT. so it is cannon unto the LT. As far as anything to do with the IG, you have your opinion and you think it is law even tho I an other's have pointed out flaws in it. So I refuse to debate with you on anything about the IG.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There is only one LT. so it is cannon unto the LT.

Regardless, it is not canon.

Last Planet Standing is as Canon as this:

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As far as anything to do with the IG, you have your opinion and you think it is law even tho I an other's have pointed out flaws in it. So I refuse to debate with you on anything about the IG.

Let's look at my "flaw"

Evidently the Marvel Company shares my "flaws" ...

Originally posted by Mr Master
Regardless, it is not canon.

Last Planet Standing is as Canon as this:

Let's look at my "flaw"

Evidently the Marvel Company shares my "flaws" ...

And yet on panel Eternity cleary stated that The IG wearere would replace him. Not multi Eternity. So I'll stick to my opinion as it is since it was eternity who said it. As for the Cannonity of the REED who owned the LT, It is only one LT. As established by marvel. He got owned wether that reed is cannon or not. It's not cannon to 616 but it is cannon to THE LT.

For this.

First, i'm not sure if Chaos magic even exists in Marvel.

Either way, the events of JLA/Avengers isn't what caused Wanda to suddenly become so powerful.

Maybe at first, but its been retconned into it being Wandas probability tampering powers, kicked into overdrive, ie her freaking mutant ability!

So no, magic in DC didn't allow her to suddenly collapse the universe.

Check one.

Check two, DC Ares isn't the powerhouse you tout him to be Nvr.

Anyone who's read WW would know that Odin still nets the clear majority, and Zeus certainly isn't head and shoulders above his children.

Secondly, the whole heroes in Marvel seem less powerful, while magic is weaker misleading you people are doing?

The Chaos magic is stronger, since in Marvel i'm not sure if it even actually exists,(love to be proved wrong though), and of course the heroes in DC are stronger on average.

Marvel is the home of the midtiers, whereas DC is either street or top tier it seems.

The top tier to street ratio in DC is much better than it is in Marvel.

Look at their flagship teams.
The Avengers is made up of midtiers, with two notable top tiers in Thor and Herc.
The JLA has a team of demigods, with a street and a midtier in drippy.

Checkmate.

Originally posted by UniOmni
For this.

First, i'm not sure if Chaos magic even exists in Marvel.

Either way, the events of JLA/Avengers isn't what caused Wanda to suddenly become so powerful.

Maybe at first, but its been retconned into it being Wandas probability tampering powers, kicked into overdrive, ie her freaking mutant ability!

So no, magic in DC didn't allow her to suddenly collapse the universe.

Check one.

Check two, DC Ares isn't the powerhouse you tout him to be Nvr.

Anyone who's read WW would know that Odin still nets the clear majority, and Zeus certainly isn't head and shoulders above his children.

Secondly, the whole heroes in Marvel seem less powerful, while magic is weaker misleading you people are doing?

The Chaos magic is stronger, since in Marvel i'm not sure if it even actually exists,(love to be proved wrong though), and of course the heroes in DC are stronger on average.

Marvel is the home of the midtiers, whereas DC is either street or top tier it seems.

The top tier to street ratio in DC is much better than it is in Marvel.

Look at their flagship teams.
The Avengers is made up of midtiers, with two notable top tiers in Thor and Herc.
The JLA has a team of demigods, with a street and a midtier in drippy.

Checkmate.

Actually, show me the recton that states it was Wandas mutant ability that kicked into over drive, and this retcon must pertain to the Xover, not prior.

Secondly, as stated on panel chaos magic is stronger in DC then in marvel, a few users of Chaos magic are; Wanda (was), Dr. Strange, Shuma Gorath, theirs more but Dr. Strange is the main one.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And yet on panel Eternity cleary stated that The IG wearere would replace him. Not multi Eternity. So I'll stick to my opinion as it is since it was eternity who said it.

And again, Eternity was the one complaining because Eternity was the one getting Replaced.

Thanos ONLY wanted to usurp Eternity's position, one Universe.

And Warlock didn't want to replace any Universe, he was just too unstable to have them.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As for the Cannonity of the REED who owned the LT, It is only one LT. As established by marvel. He got owned wether that reed is cannon or not. It's not cannon to 616 but it is cannon to THE LT.

SO you can see how it happened. (wasn't exactly Reed owning LT)

These 8 Cosmics (including LT) plot to erase Galactus from existence. 😆

Galactus is about to be attacked by Reed and his Super Canon, and the Cosmics are concentrating ALL of their power into a Single Point to erase Big G.

Reed decides to shoot his Canon at the Single Point, (where ALL the Cosmics' Powers are)

It ends up using the Cosmics' own power against them. (he caught them by surprise)

Nvr's been owned again...

that issue is pretty retarted.
why would the LT we know need help from other cosmics to destroy Galactus?
Honestly Lord Chaos and Master Order and Stranger probally would just do the trick. that comic is just screwed up in general. But Mr.M at least gave an accurate explanation why LT got "owned".

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Nvr's been owned again...

What the hell are you talking about you tard. I'm not owned when the only idoits who call out me being owned are marvel zombie fanboys who band together like rednecks at a lynching and think they are right in thier wrongness. He didn't even own me. I wasn't arguing with him and said I wasn't becuz he clearly has his opinion and if anyone disagrees with him or points anything out that he doesn't like, he begins this arrogant bashing.