Burn Out or Fade Away?

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Burn Out or Fade Away?

Do you think it's better to burn out or fade away?

...and I hope these examples are adequate...

Burn out as in Nirvana, or Hendrix

Fade away as in Bon Jovi, or Prince

-I'd choose...fade away (as pathetic as it would be by the time I'm 50!)

Prince will still be able to go out with a band when he's 85, I'm not sure why you're implying that the man is fading away. If anything he's stronger now than he was at points in the 90s.

I think if you have such a lifespan that it's inevitable for you to do either of those, then I'd say burn out. Hendrix was the best guitarist of all time by his mid 20s and had people like Clapton and Townshend, life-long guitarists, in awe of him.

Bon Jovi has probably never had anyone in awe of him.

-AC

Those that fade away don't get a Super Bowl halftime. Prince recieved tons of praise for last weekend's show.

Originally posted by The Core
Those that fade away don't get a Super Bowl halftime.
Right, like the Rolling Stones. 😉

They haven't faded away, have they? They're still one of the biggest grossing live bands.

Burn out baby yeah!!!! Go BOOM and leave them all in smoke! yeah!!!

Wow. You three are just truly, truly pathetic. (Not you arctic)

I'm just helping the thread description by offering examples...Maybe (and I disgree) they're not ALL absolutely accurate...in the least they're debatable. But they're not the focus of this thread (until you made them).

It's dead obvious that because you just have sour grapes for not being able to convince me of your lame opinions in the other thread, you're bringing yourslves to say s%$* like "The Rolling Stones are not fading away!"

What an absolute joke you've turned yourselves into.

AC. Sure you gave your answer, but why do you feel you have to criticize my examples when they're not even really far off...what are you trying to prove?

To put it mildly dude...Prince is history! He is in the long, (and painful) process of fading away. His artistic prowess, contemporary popularity, and relevance that were once frequently chart-rockin' have long since dwindled and are on the downward slope. (Of course the same goes for Bon Jovi).

Now...go ahead...make yourselves fools in front of everybody by disagreeing with me about that.

(Or, you can just stop being pathetically critical and take part in what the thread is actually about!)

...and we're the ones with sour grapes?

-AC

People remember you better if you burn out.

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
To put it mildly dude...Prince is history! He is in the long, (and painful) process of fading away. His artistic prowess, contemporary popularity, and relevance that were once frequently chart-rockin' have long since dwindled and are on the downward slope. (Of course the same goes for Bon Jovi).

His artistic prowess? He's still a factually better player of most instruments than anyone in modern music, especially guitar.

Contemporary popularity means nothing, because he's maintained a massive fanbase in his multi-decade career, but if modern popularity is your concern, 3121 got rave reviews across the board. Oppositely, the only people who didn't seem to really like it were the people who are stuck in the past.

Prince's "downward slope" is hardly that, is it? Considering the man has more hits for himself and other people than anybody will ever have. By hits I don't mean three or four famous songs and the rest that people might know. You could make many Best Of albums consisting of really famous songs that he has wrote himself, either for himself or others.

So to say he's on a downward slope because he's not doing that anymore is a bit silly. Popular recognition means nothing, but if that is how you judge, then he's still popular. He's still winning awards, even though they mean nothing, that are fan and critics voted. I think he just recently won ANOTHER Academy Award (Or Grammy) for Best Original Song on a Soundtrack, which was for Song of the Heart off the Happy Feet soundtrack.

How many Superbowl half-time shows have there been, great ones? Many. As soon as the cameras cut back to the commentators (At least here in the UK), all of them instantly said it (Prince's) was the best they've ever seen, unquestionably. Two of them were youngish guys, one was Don Johnson. So it's not as if he still appeals to oldies or exclusively new fans.

Infact, the only reason Prince's contemporary popularity may have dwindled in any shape or form is because everybody out there is doing cheap rip offs of him, which proves again that his "peers" (If you can even call them such) are more or less still at his feet.

I suggest you start researching things before making dumb claims. Artists like Prince don't have a "time". They make their own time. There will always be a place for Prince, because he's earned it.

-AC

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Now...go ahead...make yourselves fools in front of everybody by disagreeing with me about that.
I can't believe you actually did. Oh my.

And oh...right...writing songs for movies like HAPPY FEET are a sure sign that you haven't faded away!! 😆

And of course people like Paul McCartney and Sting who have done the same recently SURELY haven't faded away either!

Good One!!!!

Superbowl Halftime show is utterly pointless and lame. Case in point and relevant to Fade Away.....New Kids on the Block.

We're not talking about if we like them or not, are we? We're talking about not having faded away.

Not whether or not we feel they've got better or worse; Whether or not they are still prominent or around. Prince is, he's still in demand, he's still loved, he still sells out stadiums and arenas everywhere he goes while maintaining a high level of fan based and critical praise for both his music (subjective) and musicianship (objective).

Whether or not he has been around too long to "burn out", compared to the relatively short careers of Hendrix etc, is up for debate, but he clearly hasn't faded away.

When are you going to just accept that you're an fool who knows next to nothing, and even less about how to prove it?

-AC

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Wow. You three are just truly, truly pathetic. (Not you arctic)

I'm just helping the thread description by offering examples...Maybe (and I disgree) they're not ALL absolutely accurate...in the least they're debatable. But they're not the focus of this thread (until you made them).

It's dead obvious that because you just have sour grapes for not being able to convince me of your lame opinions in the other thread, you're bringing yourslves to say s%$* like "The Rolling Stones are not fading away!"

No, it's because they haven't faded away, you incredible spastic.

The Rolling Stones have over taken U2 to take the record for the highest grossing tour ever.

The British veteran's A Bigger Band world jaunt has now generated the most money in concert history, pulling in over $437 million gross.

This puts it over U2's Vertigo tour (2005-2006) which grossed $333m, which itself originally took the record from the Rolling Stones' Voodoo Lounge tour (1994-95) which pulled in $320m, reports Billboard.

See how idiotic your points are? Not only are they still in the public consciousness, but they just completed the biggest tour ever. Not a big one, not a decently well-received one that wasn't up to former glories. The biggest tour that has ever been performed.

That is 'fading away', to you. See why you're dumb now? (I know you don't, but just take it from me (everyone)).

No one 'has sour grapes'; you just make laughable posts that beg to be rebutted.

Also, the fact that you will now reply doesn't mean you are still in the debate- you were just factually proven wrong. You are just an annoying fool who doesn't know when to stop embarrassing everybody.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Prince is, he's still in demand, he's still loved, he still sells out stadiums and arenas everywhere he goes
I don't have to explain this one...I think everyone knows how ridiculous that just sounded.

Sure...Prince hasn't faded. I'm sure his records are just flying off the shelves, topping the charts, listened to at parties, bars and in cars, and making a killing at awards shows!

😆

Stop...while you still can.

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
I don't have to explain this one...I think everyone knows how ridiculous that just sounded.

Sure...Prince hasn't faded. I'm sure his records are just flying off the shelves, topping the charts, listened to at parties, bars and in cars, and making a killing at awards shows!

😆

Stop...while you still can.

There's two whole posts you ignored, and that's just by me. Not sure if you knew this.

-AC

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Not only are they still in the public consciousness, but they just completed the [b]biggest tour ever.[/B]

Oh my...does anyone out there acutally believe what they've just read???

Incredible!!! You guys are becoming a laughing stock. Not only are you teaming up becasue all you think you have at this point is yourselves, but you're left to make outrageous claims just for the sake of sticking it to me.

Classic!

Seriously boys, you're playing with the men right now, so don't bother. The fact that you've gone on record to say what you have about Prince and The Rolling Stones has just forever proven your inadequecy with all things music.

Nicely done!

We're not claiming it you retard, it's a fact.

What's wrong with you? Genuinely. Something must be faulty somewhere.

-AC

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES

Sure...Prince hasn't faded. I'm sure his records are just flying off the shelves, topping the charts, listened to at parties, bars and in cars..

Yes. They are.

..and making a killing at awards shows!

Yes. They are.

Could you be any more ignorant, guy? Seriously? You're making this very, very easy for us. I'm not carrying over any "sour grapes" to this thread. You're using incredibly uneducated, poor examples to prove a point.

But, to reply to the question at hand, I'd rather "burn out". It's less embarassing than to have people just stop caring about you.

The man likes Lily Allen and The Backstreet Boys, let's not forget that.

-AC