THe LT vs. Micheal the Arc Angel

Originally posted by Mr Master
Interesting,

according to your new partner in crime,

LT and the IG are below ONE Universe.

What are you checking and mating?

Must be yourself.

The Living Tribunal,

inthe 16th Dimension.

This is part of the Marvel Omniverse.

So how you figure Marvel only has 3 Dimensions?

Eternity, Lord Chaos and Master Order are with him:

Are they Waaaaaaaaaay above the Omniverse too?

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LOL mr. master, do i have to explain physicas and dimensional theory to you. you obviously don't get it. the 3rd dimesnion is what we reside in. It is the height, length, and width. The reason the 3rd dimension is nothing to mxy is like the 2nd dimension is nothing to us. Paper is 2 dimensional to us. We can draw on it, destroy it, create it, write on it. erase it. When I say all of marvel is 3rd dimensional, it means that they all operate in teh 3 dimensional plane. I think it may be to advance for you to understand.

as for that whole 16th dimesnion thing you like to use, it is clearly explained that the 16th dimension in marvel is simply a nexus point INBETWEEN realities. thus making the use of dimension more linear and side by side in marvel where DC's dimensions mean a higher plane. both are correct uses by scientific standards.

on a side note, Those other abstracts are only there becuz the LT ordered them so. It's not like they can just enter his presence when ever they feel like it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Who are these folks? I believe the IG to be supremely Universal in power. But not multiversal as some make it. You can't take over a multiverse with the IG. and that is for sure. The LT has more power than the IG becuz he can control the gems. But he just seems like a punk to question whether he can fight the power of a less than multiversal artifact.

What are u proving? Living Tribunal is #1.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU

Still, there are plenty of beings that can destroy the Marvel Omniverse, why would the once in DC that can destroy their (let's call it🙂 Omniverse be better somehow?

Anti-Monitor, Paralax, both could have destroyed all that is the DCU, with all realities and Planes 😉. So Omniversal in Marvel Terms.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Again,

making EMPTY claims.

or are these straight up lies? (I'm hoping it's just talking shit)

When are you going to stop this friend?

Um on the panel, the LT states that the 16th is just a nexus in between realities. And DC has already established that it's dimensions go up in power and scope. So exactly when did I lie?

If you look at the paper in micro-perspective it's pretty much 3D.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Hippie you've got it wrong, crossovers arent canon.
If it were it would be the same as:
Mxy = Impossible man (or a slight differece)
Which would mean Eternity >> Mxy
Darkseid would be almost equal to Thanos
Superman to Hulk
And so forth.

Still, there are plenty of beings that can destroy the Marvel Omniverse, why would the once in DC that can destroy their (let's call it🙂 Omniverse be better somehow?

Are you a nut? Mxy in that NON cannon cross over cleary stated that he was vastly superior to Silver surfer. In the same cross over the impossible man said that silver surfer was so powerful and not to be messed with. your so laughable it's not even funny.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Anti-Monitor, Paralax, both could have destroyed all that is the DCU, with all realities and Planes 😉. So Omniversal in Marvel Terms.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
It was stated that AM could destroy the DC Multiverse ...
But as some claims, the imp's would go unharmed ... Therefore no, it wouldent be the omniverse, if not all the imp's wouldve been killed as well.

Then you don't understand how it works and your logic is too simple to get it. The Imps don't reside in the same lvl as the DC multiverse. The Imps simple are higher on the food chain. THe Imps have thier own verse which supercedes any and all omniverses of the third dimension. They aren't even part of the DCU by regular standards.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
OMG I can't believe the honor MM reads my posts 🙄

Prime I have nothing against you buddy,

but when you make opening statements, cloaked in subtle insults you should expect anomosity.

Let's start fresh cause atleast you're showing sense.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
LT is the 2nd in the Marvel Universe which is an Onniverse these days, Spectre is LT's equal and was beaten by Michael (i heard 😉) so Michael wins.

Fair enuff,

You made a point, with a scenerio that took place in comics to back up your opinion.

I respect that, but I disagree.

LT is second to TOAA

So (IMO) in DC, whatever is second to the Presence stalemates LT.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
One Marvel Universe (616) will never be the same as the One DC Universe (with all timelines, planes and dimensions).

I completely agree.

I personally never said the 616 Universe was even remotely close to equalling DC' entire Reality, even if it's just a Universe which it's not, it's actually a Multiverse (Hypertime)

That can reasonably be as big as Marvel.

The Omniverse though it's grouped in Megaverses and Multiverses, is just an endless amount of Universes.

DC's Hypertime is just an endless amount of Universes as well.

The difference is Marvel groups some of it's Universes, while DC does not.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
It was stated that AM could destroy the DC Multiverse ...
But as some claims, the imp's would go unharmed ... Therefore no, it wouldent be the omniverse, if not all the imp's wouldve been killed as well.

If I recall, it didn't say "multiverse"

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Are you a nut? Mxy in that NON cannon cross over cleary stated that he was vastly superior to Silver surfer. In the same cross over the impossible man said that silver surfer was so powerful and not to be messed with. your so laughable it's not even funny.

Celestials >> Cosmic Cubes >> Post retcon Beyonder >> Multiverse O.o

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
They traded, Superman for Silver Surfer, because Mxyztplk couldent handle Supes.
By your logic:
Superman > Mxy.

HOTU it was non cannon, and saying superman > mxy is akin to saying Thor > the multiverse

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
It was stated that AM could destroy the DC Multiverse ...

Yes the Multiverse are the different planes of one space, the DC Universe. The Whole DC Univers which is equal to the Marvel Universe (Omniverse). As said, the planes are just parts of the whole DCU.

Anti-Monitor erased almost the whole "DC Multiverse" except 5, there is no "Omniverse" per se in DC just one Big Universe and this would have ended if AM would have destroyed the last 5 Planes (or Universes).

It isn't very complicated, it gets just confusiong if you compare the Terms with the Marvel cosmology.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Yes the Multiverse are the different planes of one space, the DC Universe. The Whole DC Univers which is equal to the Marvel Universe (Omniverse). As said, the planes are just parts of the whole DCU.

Anti-Monitor erased almost the whole "DC Multiverse" except 5, there is no "Omniverse" per se in DC just one Big Universe and this would have ended if AM would have destroyed the last 5 Planes (or Universes).

It isn't very complicated, it gets just confusiong if you compare the Terms with the Marvel cosmology.

Very well put

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
They traded, Superman for Silver Surfer, because Mxyztplk couldent handle Supes.
By your logic:
Superman > Mxy.

You dont know much about mxy. mxy at any time can destroy superman with ease. The rules by which mxy plays the games with superman are his that were made by him. He even lied to superman once as a gag and didn't go home. Also mxy has stated on panel that the joker using batmite's power was a joke. He didn't know what he was doing and that mxy could at any time destroy everything. the only reason he doesn't is that there would be nothing to play with. You should stop now. your losing horribly.

I see your signature lies, since the Marvel Omniverse was all possible and impossible realities, infinity splitted to infinity more.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You dont know much about mxy. mxy at any time can destroy superman with ease. The rules by which mxy plays the games with superman are his that were made by him. He even lied to superman once as a gag and didn't go home. Also mxy has stated on panel that the joker using batmite's power was a joke. He didn't know what he was doing and that mxy could at any time destroy everything. the only reason he doesn't is that there would be nothing to play with. You should stop now. your losing horribly.

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Post retcon Beyonder >> Multiverse + All relaities + Futures + Planes of reality.
Sounds like the thing Mxyztplk did.

Post retcon Beyonder = WF Mxy?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I see your signature lies, since the Marvel Omniverse was all possible and impossible realities, infinity splitted to infinity more.

What the hell are you talking about? What lies? I'm not even talking about the marvel omniverse. But yes, the marvel omniverse is still operates in the 3 dimensional. When they discovered the cosmic vortex, they found out that it housed infinite multiverses. these multiverses are all just infnite 3 dimensional universes. As we see by the fact that the inhabitants of the 616 and some other universes marvel has shown, have all been 3 dimensional. Forget it. I dont' think you understand.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Beyonder could aslo destroy everything, and he was infernior to the cosmic cubes ...

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Post retcon Beyonder >> Multiverse + All relaities + Futures + Planes of reality.
Sounds like the thing Mxyztplk did.

Post retcon Beyonder = WF Mxy?

Mxy, Destroyed the 5th dimension as well. Something beyond the beyonder's power. Sounds like your grasping. Mxy also reached into and got bored in the real world. try again.