THe LT vs. Micheal the Arc Angel

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What the hell are you talking about? What lies? I'm not even talking about the marvel omniverse. But yes, the marvel omniverse is still operates in the 3 dimensional. When they discovered the cosmic vortex, they found out that it housed infinite multiverses. these multiverses are all just infnite 3 dimensional universes. As we see by the fact that the inhabitants of the 616 and some other universes marvel has shown, have all been 3 dimensional. Forget it. I dont' think you understand.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy, Destroyed the 5th dimension as well. Something beyond the beyonder's power. Sounds like your grasping. Mxy also reached into and got bored in the real world. try again.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Well he didnt destroy the real world, so I guess ... You fail.
But then again.
5 Skyfathers > ALE >> Mxy

You know that isn't cannon right?

Originally posted by Board Walker
You know that isn't cannon right?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Well he didnt destroy the real world, so I guess ... You fail.
But then again.
5 Skyfathers > ALE >> Mxy

lol You didn't even read the book anyway. The 5 "sky fathers" couldn't beat the ale. They were being over whelmed even with all of thier might. And had to destroy a dimension, remember dimensions in DC work like multiverses in marvel. They collapsed it so that the ale couldn't escape. so for one they weren't superior to the Ale, they had to run, for two they collapsed an entire dimension.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Else worlds = Canon, no?

That was not an else worlds tale.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
lol You didn't even read the book anyway. The 5 "sky fathers" couldn't beat the ale. They were being over whelmed even with all of thier might. And had to destroy a dimension, remember dimensions in DC work like multiverses in marvel. They collapsed it so that the ale couldn't escape. so for one they weren't superior to the Ale, they had to run, for two they collapsed an entire dimension.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That was not an else worlds tale.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Well guess:
One dimension >> ALE >> Mxy

Not really, they had to destroy an entire dimension, to trap the ALE.

They had no chance of defeating it, all of their power was nothing compared to it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL mr. master, do i have to explain physicas and dimensional theory to you. you obviously don't get it. the 3rd dimesnion is what we reside in. It is the height, length, and width. The reason the 3rd dimension is nothing to mxy is like the 2nd dimension is nothing to us. Paper is 2 dimensional to us. We can draw on it, destroy it, create it, write on it. erase it. When I say all of marvel is 3rd dimensional, it means that they all operate in teh 3 dimensional plane. I think it may be to advance for you to understand.

You should laugh at yourself, cause your talking pure gibberish friend, no offense.

WHERE is it stated that ALL of Marvel is 3 dimensional?

In fact,

let me just shut this fallacy down for good.

"We encounter Universes whose Spatial Dimensions is irrational"

"Tiboro's 6th Dimension"

"Nightmares Dimension of Dreams"

"the Dark Dimension"

"These Universes whose number of SPATIAL Dimensions Range between 2.7+ ect. and 6.2+ ect"

"Universes with Fewer than 2.7+ ect. Dimensions or Higher ones with MORE than 6.2+ ect -- One enters Universes which are truly different"

No more EMPTY claims Nvr, or I'll just keep pulling cards.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
as for that whole 16th dimesnion thing you like to use, it is clearly explained that the 16th dimension in marvel is simply a nexus point INBETWEEN realities. thus making the use of dimension more linear and side by side in marvel where DC's dimensions mean a higher plane. both are correct uses by scientific standards.

WHERE is it "clearly explained?"

You don't expect me to call you out on all this bullshit your spreading deliberately and willfully?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
on a side note, Those other abstracts are only there becuz the LT ordered them so. It's not like they can just enter his presence when ever they feel like it.

Again, WHERE does it say they can't enter there on their own?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Prime I have nothing against you buddy,

but when you make opening statements, cloaked in subtle insults you should expect anomosity.

Let's start fresh cause atleast you're showing sense.

Fair enuff,

You made a point, with a scenerio that took place in comics to back up your opinion.

I respect that, but I disagree.

LT is second to TOAA

So (IMO) in DC, whatever is second to the Presence stalemates LT.

I completely agree.

I personally never said the 616 Universe was even remotely close to equalling DC' entire Reality, even if it's just a Universe which it's not, it's actually a Multiverse (Hypertime)

That can reasonably be as big as Marvel.

The Omniverse though it's grouped in Megaverses and Multiverses, is just an endless amount of Universes.

DC's Hypertime is just an endless amount of Universes as well.

The difference is Marvel groups some of it's Universes, while DC does not.

Your logic is fualty, just becuz The lt is 2nd in marvel does not mean that who ever is 2nd in DC is automatically just his equal. michael is superior to the lt. That is the dumbest thing to say. That woudl be like me saying, Who ever is number one on the JLA is equal to who ever is number on in the Avengers.

Elseworlds is the publication imprint for a group of comic books produced by DC Comics that take place outside the company's canon.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Because you don't want it to? -- I would like some proof.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your logic is fualty, just becuz The lt is 2nd in marvel does not mean that who ever is 2nd in DC is automatically just his equal. michael is superior to the lt. That is the dumbest thing to say. That woudl be like me saying, Who ever is number one on the JLA is equal to who ever is number on in the Avengers.

well put

Originally posted by Board Walker
Not really, they had to destroy an entire dimension, to trap the ALE.

They had no chance of defeating it, all of their power was nothing compared to it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Prime I have nothing against you buddy,

but when you make opening statements, cloaked in subtle insults you should expect anomosity.

Let's start fresh cause atleast you're showing sense.

Fair enuff,

You made a point, with a scenerio that took place in comics to back up your opinion.

I respect that, but I disagree.

LT is second to TOAA

So (IMO) in DC, whatever is second to the Presence stalemates LT.

I completely agree.

I personally never said the 616 Universe was even remotely close to equalling DC' entire Reality, even if it's just a Universe which it's not, it's actually a Multiverse (Hypertime)

That can reasonably be as big as Marvel.

The Omniverse though it's grouped in Megaverses and Multiverses, is just an endless amount of Universes.

DC's Hypertime is just an endless amount of Universes as well.

The difference is Marvel groups some of it's Universes, while DC does not.

I'm not a friend of animosity, so we should all shake hands and start over or at least agree to disagree, just without insults 🙂.

LT is indeed second to TOAA as is the Spectre to the Presence, however if LT was defeated or absorbed by Thanos-HOTU and the Spectre was defeated by Michael it shows that their "Bosses" are not 100% behind them.
So Presence/TOAA >>>> Michael-HOTU > or at best = Spectre and LT.

The greatest problems and the greatest "flamewars" come from "companybased Terms" it seems. When was the Marvel Universe first "renamed" into an Omniverse BTW, before it they just called it Multiverse IIRC?

I just think we should find an fair terminology because Board Walker is right if he says that something is Universal, after all MArvel is indeed just One Big Universe as is DC, it doesn't matter in what parts you split it up and name the first one Omniverse. This is where it starts to become confusing.

Like two cityies, both the same size, on major decides to call his city onmicity, with megacitycity 1,2, 3 and 4. While the other ones calls his a Multicity with Unidistricts.... I hope you get the point 😬

DC is not Marvel

The best would be to find an Common hierarchy based on feats to see where the cosmic beings, from both companies, stand in their Universal food chain.

Originally posted by Board Walker
well put

Originally posted by Mr Master
You should laugh at yourself, cause your talking pure gibberish friend, no offense.

WHERE is it stated that ALL of Marvel is 3 dimensional?

In fact,

let me just shut this fallacy down for good.

"We encounter Universes whose Spatial Dimensions is irrational"

"Tiboro's 6th Dimension"

"Nightmares Dimension of Dreams"

"the Dark Dimension"

"These Universes whose number of SPATIAL Dimensions Range between 2.7+ ect. and 6.2+ ect"

"Universes with Fewer than 2.7+ ect. Dimensions or Higher ones with MORE than 6.2+ ect -- One enters Universes which are truly different"

No more EMPTY claims Nvr, or I'll just keep pulling cards.

WHERE is it "clearly explained?"

You don't expect me to call you out on all this bullshit your spreading deliberately and willfully?

Again, WHERE does it say they can't enter there on their own?

First of all master, Any time any being of the 3rd dimension can enter another dimension and operate, it means that that dimension is 3rd dimesnional. The discovery of the omniverse clearly says that each multiverse is infinite universes. NOT DIMENSIONS. your scan means nothing as those dimensions would nto be included in the omniverse. The omniverse was clearly refering to Universe and multiverses. try again. Also the LT cleary tells the abstracts to come to him. They didnt' eneter on thier own.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I'm not a friend of animosity, so we should all shake hands and start over or at least agree to disagree, just without insults 🙂.

LT is indeed second to TOAA as is the Spectre to the Presence, however if LT was defeated or absorbed by Thanos-HOTU and the Spectre was defeated by Michael it shows that their "Bosses" are not 100% behind them.
So Presence/TOAA >>>> Michael-HOTU > or at best = Spectre and LT.

The greatest problems and the greatest "flamewars" come from "companybased Terms" it seems. When was the Marvel Universe first "renamed" into an Omniverse BTW, before it they just called it Multiverse IIRC?

I just think we should find an fair terminology because Board Walker is right if he says that something is Universal, after all MArvel is indeed just One Big Universe as is DC, it doesn't matter in what parts you split it up and name the first one Omniverse. This is where it starts to become confusing.

Like two cityies, both the same size, on major decides to call his city onmicity, with megacitycity 1,2, 3 and 4. While the other ones calls his a Multicity with Unidistricts.... I hope you get the point 😬

DC is not Marvel

The best would be to find an Common hierarchy based on feats to see where the cosmic beings, from both companies, stand in their Universal food chain.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
You honestly think so? -- I think not.

Well it is true HOTU, its the same as saying, the 2nd most powerful of marvel is equal to the 2nd most powerful of Image, see what I mean?