Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thanos_HOTUU do realize that vertigo does not just consist of the lucifer series right? You do know that each and every vertigo story happens in it's own universe unless referencing an evernt from another story. There goes your theory that vertigo is not a multiverse. try again. harder.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTUActually, the one portrayed in Lucifer alone is infinitely overlapping, and when he exited that creation, into the void, he saw a sea of others rising and falling each moment. [As their entire universes timeline passes by in the blink of an eye.]
You mean the Swamp thing and the others?
It's still a limited number ...
Originally posted by bigbran
So what happened after that?
No more Universe.
Originally posted by bigbran
I just remember you having a post, that stated why we shouldn't use What-Ifs in a debate, and low and behold, you are the one using them in a debate... (remember Korvac not being able to read a Celestial's mind).Umm... No.
Correct, and I still think What if's are silly, but like I said, how many times has Death been responsible for Eternity's Nullification?
It fit the example I was pointing out.
That Death Profits from the Universe dying,
Death doesn't cease to be because ONE Universe dies.
"for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"
Originally posted by bigbran
You know, I really do find this hilarious...
dontgetit
Originally posted by bigbran
In your own evidence, you have said that it was a twin of Marvel Universe (which would be 616, since that is the main universe).
If you say so.
I'm tired of proving things.
Originally posted by bigbran
Do you know that there is no twin of the Marvel Universe
Which is why initially the story was Non-Canon.
Originally posted by bigbran
(but there is twins of certain universes in Marvel)? They are talking about 616.
I know they are talking about ALL of Marvel.
Originally posted by bigbran
What it is, is us basically seeing the end of 616, but they supposedly made it into a twin.
That's how you see it, and I respect that.
I see it as ALL of Marvel,
which is why the Editor said,
"Expect to Marvel still in business come september"
"if we were really canceling the entire Marvel line, there wouldn't be any question as to when this story takes place. It happens now."
Originally posted by bigbran
Either way, you were the one to use this evidence, and now you are twisting it to fit into your omniverse debate (where did the omniverse come from anyway?).
From Thanos being OMNI-REALITY
And Death no longer existing,
which can only happen if there is NO Life in the Omniverse
"for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"
Originally posted by bigbran
What the hell are you talking about?You do know, that about in the same issue (about 5 or 6 scans difference), Thanos found out that he was supposed to re-create the UNIVERSE (oh-em-gee! universe).
How did the story change that much from one panel to the other?
What you still don't get, is that, the events leading up to the big thing Thanos was fussing over, only happened in 616 (or twin if you prefer it), so, nothing, nothing at all, would have to be done to the rest of the multiverse.
Also, there was still life in the universe, so I don't know why this scan is still important to you.
Do I think, that if there was a problem in the multiverse, that God would have sent Thanos to fix it? Yes.
But there wasn't... it was a universal problem. Therefore, it only had to have the universe restarted.
God had trapped (or tricked by setting out the power) Thanos in the orb, to MAKE him fix the problem. It is all so obvious now. Thanos was trapped. Thanos knew he had two options. Remake or stay.
Thanos's earlier talks to himself would also indicate this.
Death was placed, to give Thanos reason to remake.
The intention was NEVER to get rid of Thanos (that right there, would be saying God is faulty, since Thanos wasn't ridden of), but yet, to fix the error in the the balance.
No point in replying to this,
we're not going to see eye to eye on this one.
My opinion on the matter is solid, and isn't going to budge, as yours.
Originally posted by bigbran
Does this help at all?
It really didn't, but I still think you're making a great case.
Originally posted by bigbran
Funny... I knew this scan was going to come up...And yet, he had only took down a universe.
He had shown no power outside of the universe.
Your opinion,
mine differs.
Originally posted by bigbran
Also, the funny thing is, that everything he was one with, was interestingly universal.Also, before I post this scan, he says realms, not universes. There are realms in the universe.
He also says "BEYOND the ABSTRACT"
I guess that doesn't mean beyond Eternity.
Originally posted by bigbran
He found out the UNIVERSAL vibratory patterns, the DNA of all reality.
Except he says universe, so don't try to turn that into something more.Basically he found out EVERYTHING in the UNIVERSE. Nothing was hidden from him... in the UNIVERSE.
Also, even if he was omniversal, or whatever, he still absorbed a universe, so that is all that matters.
Look, hell, how about you are right, he was one with omni-reality, OK, good. Still doesn't change him only absorbing a universe.He was made to reset the universe, not the omniverse.
"Universe"
Thanos was EVERYTHING in a UNIVERSE TWICE!
Cosmic Cube:
Infinity Gauntlet:
"Thanos has now USURPEP Eternity's rightful position as the CENTER of ALL REALITY"
SO why is Thanos catching a Universal orgasm with THOTI is beyond me.
Originally posted by Mr MasterIn Orion's series, he got the Anti-Life. And it allowed him control all will and thought. It also made wierd looking chinese type of letters pop out of people's heads. lol.
You're a true debator Jun,and you know I respect you as such.
Just show me or point me to where this information is.
What was it?
And can you post Scans if possible.
I can pull out the issues and figure out which arc it was in in the morning when I return from work, which I were I dissapear to right now!
Originally posted by Juntai
In Orion's series, he got the Anti-Life. And it allowed him control all will and thought. It also made wierd looking chinese type of letters pop out of people's heads. lol.I can pull out the issues and figure out which arc it was in in the morning when I return from work, which I were I dissapear to right now!
What's really cool bran, that it's because of you I had this revelation of what happened during the End series.
I always thought it was the Multiverse Thanos absorbed, but thanx to you and our debate, I had to thoroughly investigate the matter, and realized I had overlooked Facts, coupled with what Jim Starlin and the Marvel Editor said ...
NOW tell me Thanos absorbed ALL of the Time & Space in the Omniverse.
And the Realms Outside all the Time & Space of the Omniverse survived,
because Thanos erased all of Time & Space as TOAA wanted.
In order to Fix, by re-creating The Marvel Reality (Omniverse)
Had Thanos not done that, the Omniverse entire would have collapsed,
and finally:
Originally posted by Mr Master
What's really cool bran, that it's because of you I had this revelation of what happened during the End series.I always thought it was the Multiverse Thanos absorbed, but thanx to you and our debate, I had to thoroughly investigate the matter, and realized I had overlooked Facts, coupled with what Jim Starlin and the Marvel Editor said ...
NOW tell me Thanos absorbed ALL of the Time & Space in the Omniverse.
And the Realms Outside all the Time & Space of the Omniverse survived,
because Thanos erased all of Time & Space as TOAA wanted.
In order to Fix, by re-creating The Marvel Reality (Omniverse)
Had Thanos not done that, the Omniverse entire would have collapsed,
and finally:
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😕 Didn't it say universe many many times in that series?
Originally posted by Juntai
In Orion's series, he got the Anti-Life. And it allowed him control all will and thought. It also made wierd looking chinese type of letters pop out of people's heads. lol.I can pull out the issues and figure out which arc it was in in the morning when I return from work, which I were I dissapear to right now!
Cool.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Nvr,I explained this to many times,
you're gonna have to skim through the thread.
There is no need. Thanos said he was omni something. It didn't say anythign about any omniverse. But I do remember univrese being used in that series about 20 times. I'll go with Universe over a speculative Omni what ever he called HImself that wasn't even omniversal. Hell the games master is an omnipath, does that mean cuz he's got omni in it, he's omniversal?
Originally posted by Mr Master
No more Universe.Correct, and I still think What if's are silly, but like I said, how many times has Death been responsible for Eternity's Nullification?
It fit the example I was pointing out.
That Death Profits from the Universe dying,
Death doesn't cease to be because ONE Universe dies.
[B]"for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"dontgetit
If you say so.
I'm tired of proving things.
Which is why initially the story was Non-Canon.
I know they are talking about ALL of Marvel.
That's how you see it, and I respect that.
I see it as ALL of Marvel,
which is why the Editor said,
"Expect to Marvel still in business come september"
"if we were really canceling the entire Marvel line, there wouldn't be any question as to when this story takes place. It happens now."
From Thanos being OMNI-REALITY
And Death no longer existing,
which can only happen if there is NO Life in the Omniverse
"for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"No point in replying to this,
we're not going to see eye to eye on this one.
My opinion on the matter is solid, and isn't going to budge, as yours.
It really didn't, but I still think you're making a great case.
Your opinion,
mine differs.
He also says "BEYOND the ABSTRACT"
I guess that doesn't mean beyond Eternity.
Thanos was EVERYTHING in a UNIVERSE TWICE!
Cosmic Cube:
Infinity Gauntlet:
"Thanos has now USURPEP Eternity's rightful position as the CENTER of ALL REALITY"
SO why is Thanos catching a Universal orgasm with THOTI is beyond me. [/B]
The scans of the IG, watcher says Thanos has now become the eternity of that sphere.
Which is what I have been saying all along, the IG is less then universal.
It made Thanos the Eternity of that sphere, but it didnt make Thanos the sphere itself as the HOTU did.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There is no need. Thanos said he was omni something. It didn't say anythign about any omniverse.
"Omni something"
That would be,
Nvr, you don't have to respond with a snide remark, I know you don't agree,
I simply don't care to pursue this any further.
But the onlookers have to know what "Omni something" you referring to.
🙂
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
One Universe? The Vertigo Universe? The DC Universe? An Part of the DC Universe? Be more specific... If you can, since DC is just one Universe 😉.Sure, I read some old threads on this forum, mostly respect threads and more in "interesting" vs threads, there was an user who said that he does not care if he gets banned he has more accounts and can create a new one if he wishes.
Some other speculations from your side? 🙂Spectres Power was never equal to Captain Marvels, the Captain Marvel you mean was fueld with raw Magic, something different, anyway.
Your Statement "No ...
1. Thanos w/ Heart = The One-Above-All"Now you say that TOAA is = Marvel Staff? And you really think that Thanos w/heart = Marvel Staff..... Uhm sorry pal, but this is the point where I will stop, I don't midn people living in their own "fantasyworld" but without me buddy 😉.
Why not continue the debate you ask? Two reasons why you can have it, first you are getting insulting, I prefer more "civilized" discussions, and I have the choice to do so 😉. Second reason, you couldn't provide any prove till now and you will never be able, except if Thanos w/heart tells the Marvel Staff to write an Comic where they let LT crush Michael.
The Celestials created the Asgardians and All Magic in the Universe? WoW, that is Sci-Fi at it best I guess. Sorry, it sounds like fantasy for me, no offense, Marvel fantasy sure but still fantasy.
You can call me a child if it pleases you, I'm done with this thread, it's getting bored, I feel no need to insult you, or compare my "mental" age with yours....
So to say it with Marvel words
"Flame on"
and bye bye, it was even a bit entertaining 😉.
bye
I'm out too, you guys/girls can have it, this debate lost all meaning and any aspect of it being civilized a while ago.
Cheers
Originally posted by Mr Master
"Omni something"That would be,
[B]Omni-Reality
Nvr, you don't have to respond with a snide remark, I know you don't agree,
I simply don't care to pursue this any further.
But the onlookers have to know what "Omni something" you referring to.
🙂 [/B]
Basically He was saying he was actually the reality. That is what omni is refering to in the panel. in every other panel when it is described as to what is being affected, it says universe.
