Originally posted by King Kandy
Mr. M... How the hell could Wonderman unbalance the entire multiverse? I don't get it.
WonderMan didn't Unbalance jack,
Wonderman was the beginning of a chain of events that lead to a Universal Malady that would SPREAD to the rest of Reality (ALL of Marvel)
Because of WonderMan's resurrection, along with the countless OTHERS that have been Resurrected AFTER WonderMan, the Universe grew an irreparable FLAW.
This FLAW began at a Universal level, but was destined to SPREAD to the rest of Marvel. (Official Bio backs up the On Panel evidence)
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/celestialorderthanos.htm#Heart
"The Resurrection of Heroes starting with WonderMan ... this set askew the equlibrium between Life & Death, This FLAW would SPREAD to shatter ALL Reality"
Hence,
"for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"
Death doesn't cease to be because ONE Universe dies.
In Fact, Death Profits from the Universe dying, I posted the On Panel Proof.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Everyone knows I'm conclusively correct.But hate all you want.
LMAO who is everyone? The people who came into the thread with thier minds made up already and your cronies who listen to every word you say without ever actually taking the time to judge for themselves? Dimwitted cronies. yeah i'm glad i'm not everyone.
Originally posted by bigbran
I don't want to look, but I doubt she is. Same as Thanos absorbing the multiverse though.
Look all you want or don't look, I'm right.
As for Thanos,
On Panel Thanos Absorbed the Multiverse, and this was certified in the Official Marvel Bio.
I always knew he did, from the first time I read the End.
Originally posted by bigbran
No, you can't.
Actually I can.
Right here:
Thanos absorbs LT - Eternity/Infinity - Cosmics - All the Celestials .... on and on ...
Read
"For IF this BAND (the Living Tribunal, ETERNITY/INFINITY) Could Defy Me...might not OTHERS* be equally Foolish?"
"Could I ALLOW ANY to question my divine AUTHORITY?"
"NO....So I CONTINUED to Absorb ALL that MIGHT THREATEN my REIGN...Until....
SO,
(AFTER absorbing the Living Tribunal - Eternity/Infinity - the ENTIRE Race of Celestials - all the Cosmics - Heroes and even some Villains of this "One Universe"😉
REMEMBER THESE QUESTIONS?
WHO else COULD question his AUTHORITY?
WHO else can THREATEN his REIGN?
In this "Single Universe?" dontgetit
No one including yourself, was able to give a logical response.
That's because there is none if you try and keep it Universal.
OBVIOUSLY, Thanos is referring to existence OUTSIDE this One Universe.
Like Other Eternitys, rest of Abstracts and Alternates in OTHER Universes.
Originally posted by bigbran
Just saying, and as far as one knows or sees, they didn't read the comic.
Whatever.
Originally posted by bigbran
I'm not reaching in desperation, I'm just saying that you forgot a word.Also, I didn't think you would pull out the hypocrite standpoint, but...
What you must not know
is that I changed my standpoint a SEVERAL Months ago concerning BIOS.
Those who debate with me frequently KNOW this.
If the Bio corresponds to what happened On Panel I Accept it,
If the Bio contradicts On Panel occurrences I do Not.
In this case, they were right on the money.
Originally posted by bigbran
Ya, and the comic would disagree...
The Comic coincides with what happened On Panel to perfection.
You just can't except that cause it disagrees with your interpretation.
Originally posted by bigbran
So, basically, you were wrong today? Since you said I gave you a revelation?
Yes I was wrong today, (see it's easy to admit it)
good thing within the SAME day I returned to my ORIGINAL understanding,
Thanos Absorbed a Multiverse.
Originally posted by bigbran
Wait, I was supposedly wrong because I thought the term "universe" actually thought "universe"?
Weird...
Universe means Universe, (Sometimes - rarely but it happens - depending on the context of the Whole Story, it can mean Multiverse)
Marvel Universe means always means Multiverse.
The title of the book was ... "Marvel Universe the End"
Originally posted by bigbran
Also, based on that, every universe is a multiverse (I already covered this), every universe has multi dimensions, and therefore, every universe is a multiverse. Mephisto's realm, Satannish, Zatharos, etc.That is not what the bio makers meant, and you know it.
I NEVER said every Universe is a Multiverse.
I said the Marvel Universe is a Multiverse.
So this is inconsequential.
Originally posted by bigbran
Jim Starlin, said, that it was supposedly a twin, universe (I really don't care about what he said though). On-panel, EVERYTHING points to a universe.
The events only happening to one universe, to make this occurance?
I do care what Jim Starlin says, he Wrote the Book 😂
And Ol' Jimmy said it was going to be a Twin Universe of Marvel, outside of continuity,
WHY?
Because Jim was planning on erasing the Marvel from the map.
Apparently that changed, and he wiped out the Multiverse instead, and had Thanos Re-Create it, in order to keep in Continuity.
Originally posted by bigbran
I wonder how many times, things can be proved by bios, and ignoring on-panel evidence...
I never needed the Bio to tell me Thanos Absorbed more than a Single Universe,
in case you didn't noticed I been debating my case for MANY pages with ON PANEL Scans to prove my case.
I did prove it, and Marvel agrees.
The only person ignoring On Panel evidence is you.
Your interpretation of the ON PANEL events, was that Thanos had only Absorbed One Universe.
My interpretation of the ON PANEL events, was that Thanos Absorbed the Multiverse.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/celestialorderthanos.htm#Heart
"Thanos foiled efforts to stop his plan by Eternity, the Living Tribunal etc ... but he also Obliterated the Multiverse in the process."
"Thanos did so, using the Heart's power to Re-Create the Multiverse bereft of the flaw that would have destroyed it"
Originally posted by bigbran
Anyway, about your earlier Death scan, that you were so fond of...A UNIVERSE devoid of life, is what Thanos wanted to give to Death (even in the scan) right?
"Without life, there is no death!"
She is talking about universal standards, to farthur prove this...
Thanos has been all about the universe.
So, she is not talking about multiversal, or omniversal (well it could apply, but not in these scans), she is talking about UNIVERSAL.
Whatever you say.
I can bring out scans involving Death too.
When Galactus was going to Erase the Phoneix Force from existence, the Stars in that Universe were going out, and ALL Life in that Universe was dying.
"Is that your wish Galactus? ... to condemn the cosmos to ultimate extinction, and yourself to an Eternity in an Infinite Void, (so Galactus would SURVIVE) "can even you endure such desolation?"
Death is so cool when it says,
"unless that's what you really want? ... You've handed so many over to my care, why not lay down your burdens, and JOIN them?" (so Death SURVIVES AGAIN)
Originally posted by bigbran
Also, I found this quite interesting really
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/412606_12-phoenix-vs-nemesis-infinity-beingNow, while it may not apply to you now, I still find it quite... intriguing.
It does not apply to me now, (and it has nothing to do with this debate)
That was back in July,
like I said it's been Months since I began Accepting Bios that correspond with events that took place ON PANEL.
Originally posted by bigbran
Because he didn't.
I'm trying to find this out as well too...
This wasn't addressed to you, and a little patience goes a long way.
I addressed KK before replying to you, SEE and Learn true debater.
Originally posted by bigbran
Here, is something for you to ponder at:Meh, I hate repeating arguments, but I might as well just do this instead of writing it out again(still don't like it...).
No need to ponder, you didn't read that thoroughly and it has you confused.
Read my response to KK, and that will be all.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LMAO who is everyone? The people who came into the thread with thier minds made up already and your cronies who listen to every word you say without ever actually taking the time to judge for themselves? Dimwitted cronies. yeah i'm glad i'm not everyone.
This Bio site is Officially APPROVED by Marvel,
Marvel even directs Official Handbook readers to it,
for extra information and even corrections can be found to Handbook Errors.
(from the Official Marvel Universe Handbook 2006)
Look at what I found!
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/celestialorderthanos.htm#Heart
"Thanos foiled efforts to stop his plan by Eternity, the Living Tribunal etc ... but he also Obliterated the Multiverse in the process"
"Thanos did so, using the Heart's power to Re-Create the Multiverse bereft of the flaw that would have destroyed it"
So I was right from the beginning, it was the Multiverse Thanos Absorbed.
Nuff said.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Okay, so people being resorected made life stronger then death, and when that got patched up more concepts got messed up?
I believe Thanos only needed to Re-Create One Reality/Universe (namely 616) to fix the Problem.
But as you know, because he was attacked, Thanos went berserk and Absorbed more because,
"For IF this BAND (LT-Eternity/Infinity and the rest) Could Defy Me ...
Might not OTHERS be equally Foolish?"
"Could I ALLOW ANY to question my divine Authority?"
"NO ... So I CONTINUED to Absorb ALL that MIGHT Threaten my Reign ... Until"
"Nothing Remained"
On the other hand,
Thanos made it seem as though this is what the "Almighty/He" wanted.
"You were chosen because of your WILL Titan"
Thanos is trying to find a way out of this, but Warlock lets him know better
"I am seeking that Proverbial Loophole"......
Originally posted by Mr Master
Look all you want or don't look, I'm right.
Stubborn isn't he? Childish too.
He thinks everyone agrees with him, except for the person debating with him, what he doesn't understand is that the majority of the people in this thread except for Thanos_HOTU and one other, do not agree with him.
He says I bring no debate to the thread what so ever, yet I said the same thing Bigbran said before he said it, and I'm called a sock?
Not only are you flaming other members, such as me, and Nvr, you also are acting like a child who refuses to be wrong.
Originally posted by Board Walker
Stubborn isn't he? Childish too.
He thinks everyone agrees with him, except for the person debating with him, what he doesn't understand is that the majority of the people in this thread except for Thanos_HOTU and one other, do not agree with him.
He says I bring no debate to the thread what so ever, yet I said the same thing Bigbran said before he said it, and I'm called a sock?
Not only are you flaming other members, such as me, and Nvr, you also are acting like a child who refuses to be wrong. [/B]
Originally posted by Board Walker
Stubborn isn't he? Childish too.He thinks everyone agrees with him, except for the person debating with him, what he doesn't understand is that the majority of the people in this thread except for Thanos_HOTU and one other, do not agree with him.
He says I bring no debate to the thread what so ever, yet I said the same thing Bigbran said before he said it, and I'm called a sock?
Not only are you flaming other members, such as me, and Nvr, you also are acting like a child who refuses to be wrong.
i dont call members socks but is this all you can post after masters did prove he was right? hes a child that refuses to be wrong but we see he was right 😕 the majority cant be that important cause they were wrong especially you i saw page after page of you claiming thoti was one universe but we all know now you were wrong for sure i hope youre not offended by this i just think youre looking funny saying masters is stubborn and childish cause he cant except he was wrong even though he was clearly right
love not war
Originally posted by Smoki
i dont call members socks but is this all you can post after masters did prove he was right? hes a child that refuses to be wrong but we see he was right 😕 the majority cant be that important cause they were wrong especially you i saw page after page of you claiming thoti was one universe but we all know now you were wrong for sure i hope youre not offended by this i just think youre looking funny saying masters is stubborn and childish cause he cant except he was wrong even though he was clearly rightlove not war
lol is this all I posted?
Go back, I posted everything bigbran posted before he did.
I am the one who said the IG makes the user basically eternity of the sphere, but not the sphere itself.
I am the one who said the HOTU makes the user the sphere itself (the entire sum of the universe)
HOTU I have seen everything the IG can do, and have known about it before you likely ever read that story arc.
I know of every IG feat, I have seen the other IG's as well from the alternate universes; so stop acting like a child saying "oh a wizard did it".
Mr. M has proved nothing except for the fact he refuses to accept he is wrong.
Bigbran posted the scans showing the HOTU made the user one single universe to confirm what I stated before.
The Marvel (OFFICIAL) article confirmed that the HOTU affected only 1 UNIVERSE (link was posted a few pages back).
It was shown on panel that Thanos with the HOTU became a single sphere, a single universe, as also confirmed that the spheres are universes when Doc Strange exited the universe to see why the 616 universe dipping so low to oblivion (was a different story arc.)
So please, I know what I am talking about when it comes to Marvel.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Aren't you flaming MM at this point?
I'm stating he is being childish, which he is.
He says to post scans, I already have in several threads, several times, the same ones which bigbran posted, he just ignores them every time I post them.
Yet acknowledges them when bigbran post them, if that is not childish then I do not know what is.
Originally posted by Board Walker
I'm stating he is being childish, which he is.
You're not being much better really.
Originally posted by Board Walker
He says to post scans, I already have in several threads, several times, the same ones which bigbran posted, he just ignores them every time I post them. Yet acknowledges them when bigbran post them
He's being rude. So what? Just ignore him. He's not going to change his opinion and you know that you won't either.
Originally posted by Board Walker
if that is not childish then I do not know what is.
Getting obsessed over this is at least as childish.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You're not being much better really.He's being rude. So what? Just ignore him. He's not going to change his opinion and you know that you won't either.
Getting obsessed over this is at least as childish.
Yes you are right, yeah your right I wont be able to convince him.
I just do not want other people to be mislead that the LT, IG, or HOTU is some thing that it isn't.
I really don't want another phoenix situation here, it was horrible.
