THe LT vs. Micheal the Arc Angel

Started by Mr Master62 pages

Originally posted by Board Walker
To bad that contradicts on panel evidence

On panel > That

And that source you just used, as GS explained, contradicts the comics continuity on many points, not just HOTU, so it is highly unreliable.

So yeah, their goes your argument.

On Panel has the most weight here.

On Panel Thanos absorbed the Multiverse.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I love sitting back, waiting for you to charge in impulsively, inevitably slipping up, only for me to return and illustrate your faux pas(www.wordreference.com)

😄

People take a look at this link:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/celestialorderthanos.htm

Go to the bottom of the page and please tell me what date it states the article was last updated? 😕

Can someone then tell me when issue 6 of the All New Official Handbooks Of The Marvel Universe saw print? 😖hifty:

Away with you child. You have not the capacity. 😂

Beg to differ? Try facing me in that challenge thread you've been running away from for 2 months. jester


Why would it matter when it was last updated?
Would it matter if they changed the fact's 10 years ago or 10 minutes ago, facts are still facts, no?

One more thing, he's not the one who've been running, you are, he've been here every single day providing on panel proof for each one of his statements.
I don't know why you take a weaks break after each day you've been on the forum, but I'll guess that it's because Mr. Master have owned you so bad it takes time to regenerate.

On Panel Thanos Absorbed the Multiverse, and this was certified in the Official Marvel Bio.

I always knew he did, from the first time I read the End.

Right here:

Thanos absorbs LT - Eternity/Infinity - Cosmics - All the Celestials .... on and on ...

And Thanos never stopped

Read

"For IF this BAND (the Living Tribunal, ETERNITY/INFINITY) Could Defy Me ... might not OTHERS be equally Foolish?"

"Could I ALLOW ANY to question my divine AUTHORITY?"

"NO .... So I CONTINUED to Absorb ALL that MIGHT THREATEN my REIGN ... Until ....

"Nothing Remained"

SO,

(AFTER absorbing the Living Tribunal - Eternity/Infinity - the ENTIRE Race of Celestials - all the Cosmics - Heroes and even some Villains of this "One Universe"😉

THE Unaswerable QUESTIONS?

WHAT Others Might be equally foolish?

WHO else COULD question his AUTHORITY?

WHO else can THREATEN his REIGN?

In this "Single Universe?" dontgetit

No one, was able to give a logical response.

That's because there is none if you try and keep it Universal.

OBVIOUSLY, Thanos is referring to existence OUTSIDE this One Universe.

Like Other Eternitys, rest of Abstracts and Alternates in OTHER Universes.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Are you an dyslexian my child?
It's written clearly that the information is aproved by Marvel, thus making it canon--No matter what was stated in the comic, in afterhand it was confirmed that the entire Multiverse was devoured.

I don't see proof, oh you forgot to post it I see, you know why?--Because there is no base for the thing your argumenting for, it's pure bullshit.
Atzela's realm didn't have a Eternity/Infinity thus it was not a part of the original Multiverse.

Each Sphere was a Multiverse, a collection of universes.

One Multiverse, and you know why--No you don't, your ignorance stand in your way my child.
However I will try to clearify it.
The Living Tribunal overseers the Omniverse, but since each universe is separated from the etinity, he cannot have one big manifastation outside all universes.
He have limited (compared to the supreme being) power in all universes.
If God manifests in one and the same as the Living Tribunal ´God can kill him´.
It's enough to have God's power in one Multiverse to bannish Living Tribunal from it.
It's not like the universes are tubes of energy which from the Living Tribunal can take as much as he wants.
Multiversal doesnt necesserly mean above all universal.

So he absorbed Eternity, the universe dissapeared, and he continued?
What was he absorbing then--That's right the Multiverse.

Come on keep it tame TT. Hes just disagreeing with you, its JUST comics, chill!!

Alot of what youre saying is speculation. Where was it stated that each of those spheres was a multiverse?

Where has it been stated that LT oversees the omniverses as opposed to the multiverse?

The HOTI being gods power was Thanos' speculation, the handbooks dont call it that. They call it a vast power source and thats all.

Thanos absorbed the black humanoid Mbodys of Eternity and Infinity, those who actually make up time and space. He THEN continued to absorb everything else and thats when we saw the stars and so on being absorbed. Eternity and Infinity are time space. Those humanoid figures are there representations within themselves (time/space)

Either way, its stated on panel and in the handbooks. In light of that your opinion isnt true.

This Bio site is Officially APPROVED by Marvel,

www.marvunapp.com

Marvel even directs Official Handbook readers to it,

for extra information and even corrections can be found to Handbook Errors


(from the Official Marvel Universe Handbook 2006)

Look at what I found!

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/celestialorderthanos.htm#Heart

"Thanos foiled efforts to stop his plan by Eternity, the Living Tribunal etc ... but he also Obliterated the Multiverse in the process"

"Thanos did so, using the Heart's power to Re-Create the Multiverse bereft of the flaw that would have destroyed it"

So I was right from the beginning, it was the Multiverse Thanos Absorbed.

yawn

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Why would it matter when it was last updated?
Would it matter if they changed the fact's 10 years ago or 10 minutes ago, facts are still facts, no?

Because the writers of the handbooks are the same people who write and own that site. The handbook entry referring to the universal, came AFTER the site entry. The site entry contradicts multiple on panel statements from multiple titles and issues. In light of that it is clearly not correct 😬

SO,

(AFTER absorbing the Living Tribunal - Eternity/Infinity - the ENTIRE Race of Celestials - all the Cosmics - Heroes and even some Villains of this "One Universe"😉

THE Unanswerable QUESTIONS?

WHAT Others Might be equally foolish?

WHO else COULD question his AUTHORITY?

WHO else can THREATEN his REIGN?

In this "Single Universe?" dontgetit

GS doubted the entire Race of Celestials was also wiped out:

When the Cosmics including the Living Tribunal were gathering to battle Thanos,

Thanos says, it would never had made a difference,

because they were meant to loose.


"Even if I had confronted them at that moment, Nothing much would have changed,

Some things are Written in a medium more indelible THAN EVEN the Stars,

Certain DOOMS Can NOT be Avoided"

I like how you once again ignored my post which smashed your point (this time about me being a liar) only to repost the same argument ive just torn asunder 😱

Its a continuous pattern. 😂

More LIES,

The Living Tribunal operates with "weaker M-bodys" ...

That any Abstract operates with "weaker M-bodys" ...

Third sentence in Powers/Abilties

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/anthropo.htm

"Anthropomorpho can assume a physical Form for Non-Physical or ABSTRACT beings,

These Forms have Access to the FULL POWER of the Original Being"

yawn

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Come on keep it tame TT. Hes just disagreeing with you, its JUST comics, chill!!

Ah, but he's not keeping a friendly tone, thus will not recive one in return.

Alot of what youre saying is speculation. Where was it stated that each of those spheres was a multiverse?

Well, it was never stated toi be a universe either, at some points we have to use the superior interlect the creator have given us to figur those thing out.--And Multiverse seems to be the only logical explanation.

Where has it been stated that LT oversees the omniverses as opposed to the multiverse?

Mr. Master has a scan where it says that the Living Tribunal overseers all Multiverse[B]s
.

The HOTI being gods power was Thanos' speculation, the handbooks dont call it that. They call it a vast power source and thats all.

Living Tribunal has only one known superior--And the supreme being was manipulating Thanos, 'til he got the power.

Thanos absorbed the black humanoid Mbodys of Eternity and Infinity, those who actually make up time and space. He THEN continued to absorb everything else and thats when we saw the stars and so on being absorbed. Eternity and Infinity are time space. Those humanoid figures are there representations within themselves (time/space)

So what you're saying is that the real Eternity is in a dimension far beyond the 616 universe?--Which would make it the same in all others.
It was stated that Galactus also had an M-body, but in alternate realities where he has been killed, he has never returned.

Either way, its stated on panel and in the handbooks. In light of that your opinion isnt true. [/B]

Universe is an other term for Multiverse, it have been used many times.
Even back in the Secret Wars arc, the Marvel vs DC arc ect.

Originally posted by Mr Master
SO,

(AFTER absorbing the Living Tribunal - Eternity/Infinity - the ENTIRE Race of Celestials - all the Cosmics - Heroes and even some Villains of this "One Universe"😉

THE Unaswerable QUESTIONS?

[B]WHAT Others Might be equally foolish?

WHO else COULD question his AUTHORITY?

WHO else can THREATEN his REIGN?

In this "Single Universe?" dontgetit[/B]

Previously handled, in my big post on the matter. Reposting it continuously doesnt change that im afraid. It does however after a while serve to hide my post which smashed your point 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Mr Master
GS doubted the entire Race of Celestials was also wiped out:

Im a grown man. If somethings stated point blank on panel i drop the pride and i concede. It was the entire race of Celestials.

Now tell me how that affects the fact that the handbooks and the various on panel statements from multiple titles and issues say point blank he destroyed and recreated a UNIVERSE? 😎


The Infinity Gauntlet made Thanos the Actual Universe in it's Entirety

"No mere words can describe the sensation of being One with All"

"I was Everything, Bonded to OMNI-REALITY"

Thanos is in awe of being One with Everything,

as if he hasn't had the Sensation of being One with the Universe before

Thanos is supposed to be just One Universe,

yet Thanos was EVERYTHING in a UNIVERSE TWICE!

Cosmic Cube:

Thanos is the Universe

Infinity Gauntlet:

"Thanos has now USURPED Eternity's rightful position as the CENTER of ALL REALITY"

How the hell is Thanos catching an orgasm from being One with the Universe Again?

hum

Besides the Fact that, with THOTI, Thanos is perceiving "Realms he Never knew existed"

In One Universe? dontgetit

and yet, with THOTI, Thanos Awareness expands "Beyond the Abstract"

"Beyond ETERNITY"

and yet Thanos calls this "the Universal Vibratory Patterns/ the DNA of all Reality"

Before prociding futher, I have one question, who do you whink would prevail, Michael or the Living Tribunal?--That is after all the topic.

Starlin's Original intention was to Erase the Marvel Omniverse!

Death was no longer going to Exist,

which can only happen if there is NO Life in the Omniverse


"for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"

Death Profits from the Universe dying,

Death doesn't cease to be because ONE Universe dies.

Eternity is Erased in this incident

"The Eons-Old Stalemate between Eternity and ME has ENDED.

By MY MACHINATIONS, the UNIVERSE shall be MINE"

"DEATH--Korvac's Unbidden ALLY....

"DEATH--Korvac's UNWANTED MASTER"

The Domain of DEATH

Like the Writer himself said,

it was meant to be the Marvel Universe as in EVERYTHING!!!

"So much so Starlin is writing it as if it were an in-continuity story, even though it's really not. Or in other words, if you've always wanted to read about the current-day Marvel Universe coming to an end, this is your story. But you can still expect the Marvel Universe to be in business come September when this series winds up"

The Editor even points out to STILL "Expect Marvel in Business come September"

Jim Starlin was rubbing out ALL of Marvel, twas why Death was not going to survive,

"for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"

I guess the story changed, and Thanos ended up Healing Marvel,

by Re-Creating just the Multiverse.

That right about settles that.

Yall can continue to debate this all yall want.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Im a grown man. If somethings stated point blank on panel i drop the pride and i concede. It was the entire race of Celestials.

jawdrop

I'm at a lost for words.

I'm also playing the lottery tonight. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
More LIES,

The Living Tribunal operates with "weaker M-bodys" ...

That any Abstract operates with "weaker M-bodys" ...

Third sentence in Powers/Abilties

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/anthropo.htm

"Anthropomorpho can assume a physical Form for Non-Physical or ABSTRACT beings,

[B]These Forms have Access to the FULL POWER of the Original Being"

yawn [/B]

The nature and form of an Mbody is determined by the need of the conceptual entity. How well represented the abstract is within reality is variable That point is also made in the bio. Therefore you cannot assume that every Mbody has the full power of the conceptual entity behind it, it just has the option to. Your point is a dud.

Its Storms role to protect a group of civilians. Her and the civilians are trapped with Sabretooth in an enclosed space. Storm can easily destroy Sabretooth, but to do so within the physical constraints of the building she would kill the civilians and thereby compromise her role.

What do you think Storm does

a) Think f*ck it and kill Stooth and in the process kill her charges

b) Accept her role and work with the tools she has available, the tools she can unleash safely whilst staying true to her role

Eternity is the embodiment of the universe. If through his Mbody he were to unleash ALL of his power in an attempt to protect the universe he would use all the universe resources thereby defeating the purpose

LT is a multiversal being who manifests within realities via Mbodys. Devote all his power to one universal Mbody and he could be depriving other manifestations from performing their duties. His duties extend beyond any one universe. Unless otherwise stated you cannot assume that an Mbody on panel is using the full power of said entity.

Forget the unrelated waffle MM. Its getting you nowhere.

Present on panel statements as well as a handbook entry referring to how Thanos destroyed the multiverse and recreated the multiverse and you've got the point. Ive done so with my interpretation. My interpretation is point blank stated on panel and in the handbook. You have an opinion and a statement from an outdated bio entry 😬

Until then i know im right and you know im right, youre just too proud.

Stop getting so personally invested in comic books my friend. Its really not healthy. 🙁

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Forget the unrelated waffle MM. Its getting you nowhere.

Present on panel statements as well as a handbook entry referring to how Thanos destroyed the multiverse and recreated the multiverse and you've got the point. Ive done so with my interpretation. My interpretation is point blank stated on panel and in the handbook. You have an opinion and a statement from an outdated bio entry 😬

Until then i know im right and you know im right, youre just too proud.

Stop getting so personally invested in comic books my friend. Its really not healthy. 🙁


Finaly ... This means you will begone at least a week, correct?

That will be all for this evening. 😎

Nite nite folks 😱