Captain America and Wolverine vs Punisher

Standard rules blah blah blah.

No shield. No healing factor.

Punisher has:-
- an M16 loaded with 30-round magazine. +one extra 20-round magazine.
- a Glock 17 with a 19 round magazine loaded. +one extra 17-round magazine.
- a machete

1) They fight in a field of daisies, 200 m (~650 ft) squared, at opposite corners. Punisher can't leave more than a 10 m (~30 ft) from his starting point.

2) They fight on the ground floor of Harrods. No using the Harrods merchandise.

Punisher is in Cosmetics.
Wolverine is in the Beauty Apothecary. Captain America is at the Candy Shop. They're allowed to use stairs.
They don't know each other's locations.

3) They fight in the dense Amazon rainforest. They start 500 m (~1600 ft) apart and know each other's starting locations

Discuss.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Standard rules blah blah blah.

No shield. No healing factor.

Punisher has:-
- an M16 loaded with 30-round magazine. +one extra 20-round magazine.
- a Glock 17 with a 19 round magazine loaded. +one extra 17-round magazine.
- a machete

1) They fight in a field of daisies, 200 m (~650 ft) squared, at opposite corners. Punisher can't leave more than a 10 m (~30 ft) from his starting point.

2) They fight on the ground floor of Harrods. No using the Harrods merchandise.

Punisher is in Cosmetics.
Wolverine is in the Beauty Apothecary. Captain America is at the Candy Shop. They're allowed to use stairs.
They don't know each other's locations.

3) They fight in the dense Amazon rainforest. They start 500 m (~1600 ft) apart and know each other's starting locations

Discuss.

ill admit, initially i thought this thread would be an obviousl team 2 victory and i almost skipepd over it
but im glad i looked becuase this is very lol

Ill skip 1 and 3 but ill have to think about the 2nd scenario

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Standard rules blah blah blah.

No shield. No healing factor.

Punisher has:-
- an M16 loaded with 30-round magazine. +one extra 20-round magazine.
- a Glock 17 with a 19 round magazine loaded. +one extra 17-round magazine.
- a machete

1) They fight in a field of daisies, 200 m (~650 ft) squared, at opposite corners. Punisher can't leave more than a 10 m (~30 ft) from his starting point.

2) They fight on the ground floor of Harrods. No using the Harrods merchandise.

Punisher is in Cosmetics.
Wolverine is in the Beauty Apothecary. Captain America is at the Candy Shop. They're allowed to use stairs.
They don't know each other's locations.

3) They fight in the dense Amazon rainforest. They start 500 m (~1600 ft) apart and know each other's starting locations

Discuss.

Frank wins

This is feeding the sheep to the fukin slaughter...at least give some healing factor...frank fuks these two up fairly easily. He can cap these guys within a few seconds if he wants. Granted cap is an excellent leader and whatever and logan is great at what he does, but frank has done damn good against these two with their usual powers, he will kill them without.

Punisher Is the man. Check out his respect forum. Punisher 10/10 ftw.

No shield or healing factor is too much of a loss for them.

Punisher win hands down

Punisher wins the first one via sharpshooting, though Cap would be aq problem. I think they tie in the second one, because all 3 are great at guerilla tactics but Pun might be ambushed by the other while killing one. Punisher loses the majority in the 3rd one because he has no sharpshooting chance in a jungle, and if he goes h2h with either he loses.

wolverine takes out punisher on his own

Originally posted by spidey-dude
wolverine takes out punisher on his own

Bullet to the head stops him before that happens.

Wolverine beats both up.

Wolverine can't use his claws without his healing factor - he'll keep on bleeding through his knuckles for hours.
And Cap doesn't get his shield, while Punisher is heavily armed?
Not a very fair thread, I say.

Wolverine still wins. HE CANNOT DIE.

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Wolverine still wins. HE CANNOT DIE.

point well taken, my lord.

Wolverine might stand a chance in the jungle, due to his enhanced senses...

But yeah, the no healing seriously disadvantages him.

Cap might take in Harrods - just because he is such a great strategist.

I would think the odds in these battles are slightly in Frank's favour... But I dunno, I have a lot of respect for Cap -he just might be able to surprise old Frankey...

Just in case it isn't clear, the equipment given to Punisher is all he has for all three fights. They're sequential fights and people are fully revived after each of them.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Bullet to the head stops him before that happens.

Frank eats the whole team.

You don't think Cap stands a chance in Harrods? He's faster, stronger, a better fighter, a great strategist and he is in a store with hundreds of hiding places...

I think Cap is being underestimated here, sure he doesn't have a shield, but since when has he needed a shield to take out a punk with a gun? Nothing against Frank, I like him and I like his style, but to Cap he should not pose that much of a thread in Harrods...

Originally posted by Dreampanther
I think Cap is being underestimated here, sure he doesn't have a shield, but since when has he needed a shield to take out a punk with a gun? Nothing against Frank, I like him and I like his style, but to Cap he should not pose that much of a thread in Harrods...

The "punks with guns" that he takes out aren't freqently experts like Frank.

Cap probably is a better strategist but Frank isn't too shaby and he has a lot more firepower in this case.

In all but the last scenario Frank should be taking 7-10/10, and in the last it is only a little lower, given that Frank is a Vietnam vet.

However, since writer love to make cap faster than bullets, any comic scenario is going to have Wolvie and him win in a curb stomp

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Wolverine might stand a chance in the jungle, due to his enhanced senses...

Wolverine's healing factor is what makes his senses so damn good. So if he loses his HF, he'll lose his senses.

About the thread.. This reminds me of the Superman threads where he's limited so much that he's... HULK!!