Smurf's Gauntlet o' Skillz!

Originally posted by capt it up
what did matt reall due in the fight?

He fought the hand ninja logan just waitied. he used the hand ninja as a shield and knocked them both down the stairs. then logan kicked him and slashed him injuring matt. matt as a last ditch effort his logan and logan tripped and fell on a sword the perfectly went through his lungs. what would matter have done if logan had nto fallen on the sword and went out of mind control? he would have died he was really to injured to keep fighting.

Not bad for a guy who didn't have any claws, unlike his opponent.

He didn't stalemate Wolverine, he hit him once and miracle of miracles, briefly managed to over ride his reprogramming (hint: plot device). If he had been fighting normal Wolverine that wouldn't even have slowed him down... and if Wolverine was really trying to kill Matt he would have pop his claws through his head the moment he had the opportunity instead of chatting him up until Elektra interrupted.

Originally posted by capt it up
ecpt for the fact he defeated him in 3 pannels in h2h combat and has more then 3 times his experience and training

Wolverine never defeated Daredevil in 3 panels.

1. Daredevil wasnt in his right mind while in that character(purple and grey suit) Different style.

2. Wolvie was trying to hold DD back due to DD not thinking straight because of Typhoids hold on him.

On the other hand Daredevil did defeat Wolvie with 1 swift move.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He didn't stalemate Wolverine, he hit him once and miracle of miracles, briefly managed to over ride his reprogramming (hint: plot device). If he had been fighting normal Wolverine that wouldn't even have slowed him down... and if Wolverine was really trying to kill Matt he would have pop his claws through his head the moment he had the opportunity instead of chatting him up until Elektra interrupted.

It kinda goes both ways though. If it were "normal" Wolvie, he woud have never even got the chance to sneak up on DD. If he were "normal" and was really trying to kill DD, DD would actually fight him to put him down. Cant mention one without mentioning the other.

Originally posted by jrodslam
It kinda goes both ways though. If it were "normal" Wolvie, he woud have never even got the chance to sneak up on DD. If he were "normal" and was really trying to kill DD, DD would actually fight him to put him down. Cant mention one without mentioning the other.

He walked right into DD's apartment, something he could have easily down if he wasn't mind controlled.... 😕

Originally posted by jrodslam

Wolverine never defeated Daredevil in 3 panels.

1. Daredevil wasnt in his right mind while in that character(purple and grey suit) Different style.

2. Wolvie was trying to hold DD back due to DD not thinking straight because of Typhoids hold on him.

On the other hand Daredevil did defeat Wolvie with 1 swift move.

Daredevil was fine in his purple and grey suit, sure he was distort and had a break down... but we are talking about Daredevil here, the guy has a break down once a month. His skills weren't hindered any, he handled Iron Fist just fine in his armored purple and grey costume.

Daredevil attacked Wolverine with warning or reason.... Wolverine put him in a full nelson like nothing. DD was incapacitated in less then four panels... it the closest thing to a relevant fight the two have had.

DD never defeated Wolverine with a swift move, he punched him the throat with a cheap shot... and that was only a mild inconvenience... and the only reason it was any sort of inconvenience was that it was written by Ennis.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Wolverine never defeated Daredevil in 3 panels.

1. Daredevil wasnt in his right mind while in that character(purple and grey suit) Different style.

2. Wolvie was trying to hold DD back due to DD not thinking straight because of Typhoids hold on him.

On the other hand Daredevil did defeat Wolvie with 1 swift move.

ya the ennis comci good example 🙄

not to mention I proven it to be PIS before

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He walked right into DD's apartment, something he could have easily down if he wasn't mind controlled.... 😕

Im not saying he couldnt walk into DD's apartment if he wasnt mind controlled. Im saying he would have never been able to sneak up on DD.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Daredevil was fine in his purple and grey suit, sure he was distort and had a break down... but we are talking about Daredevil here, the guy has a break down once a month. His skills weren't hindered any, he handled Iron Fist just fine in his armored purple and grey costume.

Daredevil attacked Wolverine with warning or reason.... Wolverine put him in a full nelson like nothing. DD was incapacitated in less then four panels... it the closest thing to a relevant fight the two have had.

DD never defeated Wolverine with a swift move, he punched him the throat with a cheap shot... and that was only a mild inconvenience... and the only reason it was any sort of inconvenience was that it was written by Ennis.

Daredevil was not fine in teh purple and grey. His fought differently and his personality wasnt the same either. Daredevil does have his occasional breakdowns but his whole demeanor doesnt change completely. And i didnt say his skills were hindered. I said that he fought differently while in that suit. More wreckless and less finese. The encounter he had with Iron Fist wasnt a fight at all. Iron Fist threw one punch and that was it. I wouldnt quite call that a fight.

Like i stated Daredevil wasnt in his right mind. He though Wolvie was gonana kill Typhoid. Wolvie wasnt trying to do that at all. Daredevil's judgement and thoughts were clouded due to him being so close to Typhoid. Wolverine even stated that. Him putting DD in a full nelson cause he was vunerable isnt saying much.

DD DID defeat Wolvie with a swift move. How was it a cheap shot when Wolvie attacked him first? I dont get that.😬

Originally posted by capt it up
DD was made there wa sneevr an indecation he wa sunde rmidn control. it was 3 or 5 pannels.

ya the ennis comci good example 🙄

not to mention I proven it to be PIS before

I never stated that DD was mind controlled. I said he wasnt in his right mind. Because hes close and has a connection to Typhoid Mary, it clouds his thinking and makes him weak. Not muscle weak, but weak in the knees. Wolverine even stated that and thats why he asked Matt to stay behind and not persue her.

You can bash the enis book if you want, but we can bash other books where Wolverine does some BS and has a PIS moment.🙄

Originally posted by jrodslam
I never stated that DD was mind controlled. I said he wasnt in his right mind. Because hes close and has a connection to Typhoid Mary, it clouds his thinking and makes him weak. Not muscle weak, but weak in the knees. Wolverine even stated that and thats why he asked Matt to stay behind and not persue her.

You can bash the enis book if you want, but we can bash other books where Wolverine does some BS and has a PIS moment.🙄

The comic was PIS. It a fact. Not an oppinion.

also DD fights well mad and psised all the time and it never effects his ability to fight. Hell if that the case I quess he never out fought danny.

Originally posted by manorastroman
i have seen absolutely nothing to suggest that wolverine (sans adamantium, claws, healing factor) has anything even resembling the skill of daredevil.

Originally posted by Accel
Ah, yes, I also forgot to factor in the radar sense into DD's skills. Then I guess Wolverine probably stops at 8.

Though I do disagree that DD's skills are inferior to Wolverine's. He did pretty much stalemate Wolverine in Enemy of the State.

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i agree with your assesment
i didnt factor that in either

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
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i agree with your assesment
i didnt factor that in either

Originally posted by capt it up
I am the one who pointed that out

LOL
i know
hungry for credit?

Originally posted by capt it up
ya he just beat DD in 3 pannels, beat shang-chi in 5, beat a guy who destroyed danny in combat, beat Ogun more then once who is the greatets swords men and possiably the greatest martial artist to ever live, he trained black widow, He beating capt and so on

Thats a nice list, regardless, in my opinion Wolverine has never done anything that combat-skill wise puts him above Matt. atleast, not leauges above matt. The only advantages i see between the two is obviously, logans physiology.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
LOL
i know
hungry for credit?

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Thats a nice list, regardless, in my opinion Wolverine has never done anything that combat-skill wise puts him above Matt. atleast, not leauges above matt. The only advantages i see between the two is obviously, logans physiology.

you can think it all you want. I could probally prove it to you, but I doubt it change your mind one bit

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Wolverine stalemated Stick. 😈

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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Wolverine stalemated Stick. 😈

Originally posted by capt it up
you can think it all you want. I could probally prove it to you, but I doubt it change your mind one bit

Not sure what proof entails
untill daredevil himself submits to the glory of wolverine

i have no reason to believe otherwise