Originally posted by Bardock42
Jesus ****ing blasphemy bastard.Not a bandname. What you are, Slay.
Yeah.
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Yes, both those two are quite annoying names.Can't believe I didn't think of this one yet..."The Artist Formerly Known as Prince", "The Artist", or " "
As much as I enjoy him as an artist...what a total knob job.
He was never called 'The Artist...' etc.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
He was never called 'The Artist...' etc.
Yes, he was.
He also released a DVD under the moniker.
I even recall that.
He refused to continue using the name Prince, So he put an unpronouncable symbol on his albums instead or a pseudonym like 'Tora Tora' or 'Azifwekare'. The media came up with that "The Artist Formerly....." crap. Although around 1998-1999 he advertised to be called simply "The artist" instead of the media's 'TAFKAP'
And his liberation thing was not as stupid as some believe.
He probably earned more bucks 4 Crystal Ball then 4 Purple Rain.
Per Crystal Ball sold he earns 40 bucks and per Purple rain 1 buck.
During the interview, Gordon made mention of Crystal Ball and implied that its sales figures—at the time, around 100,000—must surely be a disappointment, especially when compared to the millions of copies of each release Prince had sold while at Warner Bros. Prince hastened to disagree, explaining that while he received something on the order of 10% of $10.00 or so (the wholesale price of a new CD) under his contract with Warner Bros., he pocketed between 85% and 95% of the wholesale price of Crystal Ball, depending on how he sold it. “You know how much Crystal Ball goes for?” Prince asked Gordon, who indicated that he did. (It was selling for around $50.00.) Then came a priceless moment where Gordon, having done the math in his head, realized that the little man sitting opposite him was in the process of cashing out what amounted to a winning lottery ticket, $40.00 at a time. Seven years later, Crystal Ball had sold a million copies. That’s right, $40.00 times one million.
Originally posted by Funkadelic
He refused to continue using the name Prince, So he put an unpronouncable symbol on his albums instead or a pseudonym like 'Tora Tora' or 'Azifwekare'. The media came up with that "The Artist Formerly....." crap. Although around 1998-1999 he advertised to be called simply "The artist" instead of the media's 'TAFKAP'And his liberation thing was not as stupid as some believe.
He probably earned more bucks 4 Crystal Ball then 4 Purple Rain.
No, he legally changed his name to the symbol. Everyone else made up the rest, not him. He never officially condoned any name like that.
"Prince Rogers Nelson (born June 7, 1958), known from 1993 to 2000 as (or informally, The Artist Formerly Known as Prince, TAFKAP, or simply The Artist)."
Informally.
-AC
Well, not to split hairs, but the media didn't release his DVD, a 1999 concert, under the psuedonym "The Artist", atleast recognized by Amazon. In the UK, he obviously was still recognized by the name "Prince".
UK DVD:
US DVD:
Formally, informally, he was still recognized by the name "The Artist", so we're both right. It's not even that big a deal.
I can swing by Paisley Park and ask him, though. He's only 15 minutes from me.
Originally posted by The Core
Formally, informally, he was still recognized by the name "The Artist", so we're both right. It's not even that big a deal.
He wasn't technically ever called those things, not by his admission.
Originally posted by The Core
I can swing by Paisley Park and ask him, though. He's only 15 minutes from me.
Laaaaaaaaame. Have you ever actually been there?
-AC
Originally posted by The Core
Otherwise, it's rarely open to the public.
There r questions if there even is any activity in Paisley park these days. And there have been massive 7 day 'celebrations after that date with 7 days of Prince and related artists in concert.
And the cover says o(+> in concert. (I own it)
The first is some lame semi-official rerelease.
And sorry 4 the paisley-head discussion.
lol
Originally posted by The Core
Yes, he was.He also released a DVD under the moniker.
I even recall that.
No, he wasn't.
I clearly have an ellipsis at the end, to signify the rest of the phrase that I couldn't be bothered to type.
As well as the word 'etc'.
Originally posted by EPIIIBITESCan't believe I didn't think of this one yet..."The Artist Formerly Known as Prince", "The Artist", or " "
Originally posted by Victor Von DoomHe was never called 'The Artist...' etc.
His first example being "The Artist", you deny. Just because he never referred to himself as such, doesn't mean he wasn't referred to as it. He was, and I provided some examples.
His second example being the "glyph", when matching examples, would be your "etc", thus you denying he ever went by that, is false as well.
If you're out to make a point, you shouldn't use an ellipsis, or leave it open ended. Even more importantly when there are provable variables to suggest he had multiple aliases, because he always, factually, went by TAFKAP, which is what led to him being dubbed "The Artist".
Originally posted by The Core
His first example being "The Artist", you deny. Just because he never referred to himself as such, doesn't mean he wasn't referred to as it. He was, and I provided some examples.
I didn't say he wasn't called 'The Artist', quite clearly. Show me where I have said he isn't called 'The Artist', and you win the prize. Your following sentences were pointless, because (and I think you do know), it's not what I said. I said he wasn't called 'The Artist...' etc. The ellipsis does have an actual meaning, it's not just my lack of speed lifting off the full stop key, or debbiejo type spasticity.
Originally posted by The Core
His second example being the "glyph", when matching examples, would be your "etc", thus you denying he ever went by that, is false as well.
You are right there. It is false that I denied that, because that would be silly, given that it's on much of his later work. The 'etc' referred to the missing words. I think that is clear, you obviously had trouble with it. It's fine if you misunderstood, but don't tell me what I meant.
Originally posted by The Core
If you're out to make a point, you shouldn't use an ellipsis, or leave it open ended. Even more importantly when there are provable variables to suggest he had multiple aliases, because he always, factually, went by TAFKAP, which is what led to him being dubbed "The Artist".
It's not open ended. There are three options, only one of them involves the words 'The Artist...' followed by more words (etc).
If you imagined that I meant he wasn't called the other two, I didn't. So let's move on from that.
On to the interesting point: where is the evidence that he 'he always, factually, went by TAFKAP'?
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
If you imagined that I meant he wasn't called the other two, I didn't.
All I needed to hear.
On to the interesting point: where is the evidence that he 'he always, factually, went by TAFKAP'?
I, personally, can't prove it, but considering it was his only true designation, in spoken word at the time, I took it to be "fact".