The Respect Thread of the Incredible Hulk

Originally posted by Leobama
Ok. I've been able to find answers to some of my questions. I've found that Thor, the Surfer and Juggernaut's strength levels are comparable to the Hulk's, until he gets mad that is. But since the Thing can "only" lift 85 tons he's out. Marvel has always been good about making information about there characters available. Is there somewhere that i can find the dc characters' power/strength levels? Or do we have to take their fans' words for it? I'm tired of hearing about how strong superman is without being able to get an approximate strength level.

superman's does have a give strength level , i read somewhere a dc bio , that without harnessing further power he is strong lift the giant pyramids giza . thats about 6 million tonnes or summin , dc charecters are way stronger at a base level than marvel , thing is like a fly to superman (and i thought his bio said he is able to lift 90 tons now? same as calm savage hulk )... hulk could probably lift same as supes given time to get angry at base level hulk is kinda weak as well ...

hulk's strength while calm but gets stronger with anger :
grey fixit - 75 tons
savage - 90 tons...
wwh /grean scar- 100 tons+...
maestro - 100 tons +...
prof - 100 tons ...

i assume other marvel beings like thor,sentry,herc have strength in the thousands tons category at base level as their strength does not increase

Originally posted by ankur29
superman's does have a give strength level , i read somewhere a dc bio , that without harnessing further power he is strong lift the giant pyramids giza . thats about 6 million tonnes or summin , dc charecters are way stronger at a base level than marvel , thing is like a fly to superman (and i thought his bio said he is able to lift 90 tons now? same as calm savage hulk )... hulk could probably lift same as supes given time to get angry at base level hulk is kinda weak as well ...

hulk's strength while calm but gets stronger with anger :
grey fixit - 75 tons
savage - 90 tons...
wwh /grean scar- 100 tons+...
maestro - 100 tons +...
prof - 100 tons ...

i assume other marvel beings like thor,sentry,herc have strength in the thousands tons category at base level as their strength does not increase

Maestro starts out at 200tons

Originally posted by Juntai
Superman also has a dynamic strength like Hulk, where the more stressed or angry he becomes, the greater his strength -- or rather-- all of his abilities are.

Originally posted by Accel
I'd say Superman's strength is only sometimes depicted as dynamic like Hulk's is, but most of the time it's shown moreso to be fluctuating strength than any thing else.

I was under the impression that was because of his mental blocks.

Originally posted by ankur29
superman's does have a give strength level , i read somewhere a dc bio , that without harnessing further power he is strong lift the giant pyramids giza . thats about 6 million tonnes or summin , dc charecters are way stronger at a base level than marvel , thing is like a fly to superman (and i thought his bio said he is able to lift 90 tons now? same as calm savage hulk )... hulk could probably lift same as supes given time to get angry at base level hulk is kinda weak as well ...

hulk's strength while calm but gets stronger with anger :
grey fixit - 75 tons
savage - 90 tons...
wwh /grean scar- 100 tons+...
maestro - 100 tons +...
prof - 100 tons ...

i assume other marvel beings like thor,sentry,herc have strength in the thousands tons category at base level as their strength does not increase

Originally posted by Leobama
The only problem with the sources of information that i've found is that they stop at the class 100 ranking and you pretty much have to guess the rest. I just read the other day that the juggernaut has unlimited strength. Is this true? And where can i find dc character bios?

I think you can find character bios on the DC site. For some reason, though, it isn't working right on my computer.

http://www.dccomics.com/dcu/heroes_and_villains/

As for Juggernaut, it has been mentioned that he can increase his strength before. Twice in a Hulk comments the editors say that Juggernaut has an unlimited amount of power to draw on.

Edit: You could also get a decent bio from wiki. I know that they are user generated, but for the most part they seem to have the history right.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
I think you can find character bios on the DC site. For some reason, though, it isn't working right on my computer.

http://www.dccomics.com/dcu/heroes_and_villains/

As for Juggernaut, it has been mentioned that he can increase his strength before. Twice in a Hulk comments the editors say that Juggernaut has an unlimited amount of power to draw on.

Edit: You could also get a decent bio from wiki. I know that they are user generated, but for the most part they seem to have the history right.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
So is that Hulk far more durable than WWH? That comic kind of contradicts WWH as well. Hulk was willing to kill Wolverine and Wendigo, but Cho said he wouldn't kill anyone.

Cho is an imbecile. Hulk's killed plenty of people over the years. In fact, theirs an entire comic dedicated to Dr Sampson's guilt over all the deaths the Hulk has caused that he was unable to prevent.

By the way thanks for putting the Hulk vs Galaxy master. That was a pretty good fight of how fast Hulk can actually think to react to a foe. Evening during a midst of a dangerous fight.

Heres another one. Hulk vs Strange. Not Dr.Strange but Paradox strange who was made of magical energy and pwned Moondragon with the Soul gem. I think they fought an Hulk won that fight. Heres a picture. The one in the blue suit on the right is who fought hulk

Originally posted by ankur29
superman's does have a give strength level , i read somewhere a dc bio , that without harnessing further power he is strong lift the giant pyramids giza . thats about 6 million tonnes or summin , dc charecters are way stronger at a base level than marvel , thing is like a fly to superman (and i thought his bio said he is able to lift 90 tons now? same as calm savage hulk )... hulk could probably lift same as supes given time to get angry at base level hulk is kinda weak as well ...

hulk's strength while calm but gets stronger with anger :
grey fixit - 75 tons
savage - 90 tons...
wwh /grean scar- 100 tons+...
maestro - 100 tons +...
prof - 100 tons ...

i assume other marvel beings like thor,sentry,herc have strength in the thousands tons category at base level as their strength does not increase

I agree with everything but the Sentry thing. Sentry isn't in a league like Herc or Thor. He can't even stop a Hellcarrier. Herc has pulled Manhattan and held the sky up for three ours straight.

The hellcarrier would have crushed on its own weight if he didn't descend with it 😕

Ok fellas more questions. I've read about 2 more "forms" of the Hulk: "World Breaker" and "Mindless". What's up with these "forms" and how strong are they?

Originally posted by kakuzu
I agree with everything but the Sentry thing. Sentry isn't in a league like Herc or Thor. He can't even stop a Hellcarrier. Herc has pulled Manhattan and held the sky up for three ours straight.

The Herc pulling manhattan thing wasn't that a story he told to a bunch of kids???

Originally posted by Leobama
Ok fellas more questions. I've read about 2 more "forms" of the Hulk: "World Breaker" and "Mindless". What's up with these "forms" and how strong are they?

There more along the lines of personalities. Mindless is basically the way it sounds. It is Hulk with no moral dilemmas or caring. He can't even talk, only grunt. World Breaker Hulk is the Hulk at the end of the World War Hulk story. He found out that his friend had betrayed him and led him to believe that the Illuminati was responsible for the death of his wife and his kingdom back in Planet Hulk. He was stomping the ground and shaking the eastern sea board. Oddly enough he was defeated by a man made satellite with a big laser.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
There more along the lines of personalities. Mindless is basically the way it sounds. It is Hulk with no moral dilemmas or caring. He can't even talk, only grunt. World Breaker Hulk is the Hulk at the end of the World War Hulk story. He found out that his friend had betrayed him and led him to believe that the Illuminati was responsible for the death of his wife and his kingdom back in Planet Hulk. He was stomping the ground and shaking the eastern sea board.

"Oddly enough he was defeated by a man made satellite with a big laser."

Man,World War Hulk has be never defeated,he allowed Tony stark to open the fire with the"special" satellite.........

The sudden outburst from Reed Richards enrages the Hulk. The Hulk then says "I will never forgive you and will hate you forever. Almost as much as I hate myself." The Hulk unwillingly begins releasing energy that threatens Earth, and prompts Tony Stark to activate a series of satellite devices that opens fire and eventually leaves the Hulk in his Bruce Banner form, unconscious.Source Wikipedia/Marvel

ne 1 know wuts so special about the satalite? the ground didnt look like it was that affected... so it couldnt have been force.. unless hulk "absorbed" it

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
ne 1 know wuts so special about the satalite? the ground didnt look like it was that affected... so it couldnt have been force.. unless hulk "absorbed" it

Special satellite=plot device(in reality)=excuse to end the World war hulk book.......not the best end probably..........

Originally posted by Brutacus
The Herc pulling manhattan thing wasn't that a story he told to a bunch of kids???

Nope that story is in canon in Marvel continuety. It was in a story where he teamed up with Spiderman in Marvel Team Up #28

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Nope that story is in canon in Marvel continuety. It was in a story where he teamed up with Spiderman in Marvel Team Up #28

Ok cool

The Hulk is stronger than Herc tho, right?