well cyclops has history with wolverine and can easily match him in hand to hand. i am also pretty sure that captain america can equal him in the terms of deffence and hand to hand. the combination of the two will be easily be able to create a winning startegy. i think spidermans ability to dodge will not be equal to cyclops power of geometery. we all know cyclops has such wonderfull feats of bouncing his beam of objects
well let us consider the AOA shall we. i am pretty sure that the battle between them pretty mutch destroyed them both didnt it. and i would say that cyclops got the better of the two. i would rather lose an eye then lose an arm. so i think that you are wrong to consder cyclops been destroyed by wolverine in hand to hand. i mean how many times have cyclops had lovers tiffs over jean which have come to blows or training sesstions that have become heated. after all arnt wolverine and cyclops equals when it comes to turns of hand to hand
Originally posted by rougeredmage
well let us consider the AOA shall we. i am pretty sure that the battle between them pretty mutch destroyed them both didnt it. and i would say that cyclops got the better of the two. i would rather lose an eye then lose an arm. so i think that you are wrong to consder cyclops been destroyed by wolverine in hand to hand. i mean how many times have cyclops had lovers tiffs over jean which have come to blows or training sesstions that have become heated. after all arnt wolverine and cyclops equals when it comes to turns of hand to hand
Are you a moron? There love tiff’s have never come to h2h fight’s Cyclopes is not that dumb he knows he bee killed.
There equal’s in h2h combat? Are you on crack? Logan is listed as a level 7 meaning he has mastered ever fighting style on the planet. Scot is listed as a level 4 meaning wolverine would school him in h2h combat.
Not to mention Logan experience and training dwarf’s that of scott many times over. Wolverine is consider a top tier fighter. Scott not even close to being a top tier h2h fighter.
Originally posted by manorastroman
come off it capt. you know they're not equals, but scott's been shown to hold his own more than once.
scot would stand no chance at all. scot a good fighter yes however next to a top tier fighter he not even amature level.
they are not as you say equals because of one little aspect. the fact that wolverine is a murder and is preapred to kill, he has the phycological advantage and i am pretty sure that is the only advantage that he has. they are both skilled martiel artists both trained in numerous black belts in martiels arts. also i dont think haveing a body pumped full of adamantim an advantage do you, firstly it increases his weight,, i personalys dont think that wolverine has much of an evasive sence. wolverine is a fighter whos ethos is to atempt to endure hits rather then not takeing them. while wolverine has endurance he cants live forever especialy when fighting an opponant that can pottentialy amputate your limbs.
i am pretty sure that spiderman does have an advantage over captain america however i would draw upon his experoence of working with a team rather then his usual soloing. however he has had detailled experience working with both wolverine and the captain i think cyclops is the deux ex machina here. however i dont think spiderman can do any damage from a distance he has to get close to hit someone. i am pretty sure the captain will know this and understand that this is the best time to strike... after all spidermans delaying tactics can not last forever can they.?
Originally posted by rougeredmage
they are not as you say equals because of one little aspect. the fact that wolverine is a murder and is preapred to kill, he has the phycological advantage and i am pretty sure that is the only advantage that he has.
Originally posted by rougeredmage
they are both skilled martiel artists both trained in numerous black belts in martiels arts.
Originally posted by rougeredmage
also i dont think haveing a body pumped full of adamantim an advantage do you, firstly it increases his weight,, i personalys dont think that wolverine has much of an evasive sence.
Originally posted by rougeredmage
wolverine is a fighter whos ethos is to atempt to endure hits rather then not takeing them. .
Originally posted by rougeredmage
while wolverine has endurance he cants live forever especialy when fighting an opponant that can pottentialy amputate your limbs.
Dude you are beeing very foolish. You are trying to tell me scot h2h skill is equal to wolverines which is just dumb and your being a complete fan boy
Originally posted by capt it up
actaully capt never bested wolverine
Idunno, cuz recently I was reading Origins and Endings, I believe it was and Cap crushed Wolverine's tendons on his wrists and rendered his claws useless temporarily, cuz its like a nerve strike. but I did think it was somewhat BS and maybe even PIS, cuz ur right if Wolverine was really bloodlusted and really trying with his claws out, Steve wouldnt even touch Logan and Wolverine would shred him to bits, but he doesnt because theyre friends and they know each other and work together on certain missions.
Originally posted by braz
Idunno, cuz recently I was reading Origins and Endings, I believe it was and Cap crushed Wolverine's tendons on his wrists and rendered his claws useless temporarily, cuz its like a nerve strike. but I did think it was somewhat BS and maybe even PIS, cuz ur right if Wolverine was really bloodlusted and really trying with his claws out, Steve wouldnt even touch Logan and Wolverine would shred him to bits, but he doesnt because theyre friends and they know each other and work together on certain missions.
Originally posted by capt it up
he was given a blood clot by wolverine not to mention wolverine was far from 100% in the fight and wolverine walked away not capt.
Since the can of worms is already opened, I might as well go ahead and say it.
I feel that Cap won that fight. Even though Wolverine gave him the blood clot, that was just an added bonus on Wolvie's side. Cap showed the superior ability and, in my opinion, really won that battle. Wolvie won the war, however, through the blood clot that affect Cap later on.
With that said.
I still feel that Team 2 wins this, since Scott can't go all out since there are innocent bystanders around. Keeping that in mind, Spidey takes Scott out, and then goes to end the fight between the stalemating Cap and Wolverine.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Since the can of worms is already opened, I might as well go ahead and say it.I feel that Cap won that fight. Even though Wolverine gave him the blood clot, that was just an added bonus on Wolvie's side. Cap showed the superior ability and, in my opinion, really won that battle. Wolvie won the war, however, through the blood clot that affect Cap later on.
With that said.
I still feel that Team 2 wins this, since Scott can't go all out since there are innocent bystanders around. Keeping that in mind, Spidey takes Scott out, and then goes to end the fight between the stalemating Cap and Wolverine.
still don't see how capt won. He was taken out by logan. Then logan went to go rest a little and leave, but capt got up again and grab the sword which did really nothing to end up helping him. Logan walked away capt had a blot clot that almsot kileld him. I am not sure how capt out fought logan there not to mention lgoan was not even 100% before the fight began
you seem to think spiderman would defeat scot before wolevriend efeat's capt I am not sure that to be true. wolverien and capt fight normally end pritty quickly
Originally posted by capt it up
still don't see how capt won. He was taken out by logan. Then logan went to go rest a little and leave, but capt got up again and grab the sword which did really nothing to end up helping him. Logan walked away capt had a blot clot that almsot kileld him. I am not sure how capt out fought logan there not to mention lgoan was not even 100% before the fight beganyou seem to think spiderman would defeat scot before wolevriend efeat's capt I am not sure that to be true. wolverien and capt fight normally end pritty quickly
I think that because I, for the life of me, can't see a fight between Cap and Wolvie ending quickly. I think it would be a long, drawn-out match. Yes, Wolverine would eventually win. But Spider-Man would already have defeated Scott long before that, I feel.
Basically:
Time it takes for Spider-Man to deal with Cyclops (since they are in character and there are innocent bystanders around) <<<< Time it takes for Wolverine to defeat Cap.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I think that because I, for the life of me, can't see a fight between Cap and Wolvie ending quickly. I think it would be a long, drawn-out match. Yes, Wolverine would eventually win. But Spider-Man would already have defeated Scott long before that, I feel.Basically:
Time it takes for Spider-Man to deal with Cyclops (since they are in character and there are innocent bystanders around) <<<< Time it takes for Wolverine to defeat Cap.