enough with the cyke and wolvie h2h thing. its obvious that cyke loses in hand to hand against wolvie. he'll get some punches in maybe, but he's still going to get killed in short order. its also obvious that if cyke gets to use his powers wolvie goes down fast. so lets just get off the whole h2h thing with wolvie and cyke
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Not true. That's why it took me so long to come up with a solid answer. I just feel that Spidey's and Wolvie's impulsive attitudes will be what helps them here actually. Spidey's well-known for completely screwing over all sorts of "fool-proof" plans meant for his demise.
How would Spiderman avoid Cyke's blast when he is airborne?
(lets say Cyke blasts at him, Spidey jumps to avoid it, while he is in midair, Cyke could easily shoot a second blast at his midpoint so it won't matter if he twists or turns)
i have read enough xmen to know about wolverine i have also read enough xmen and marvel comics in general to know how disgusted i am what wolverine has become. sure wolverine is a top tier fighter so is cyclops then again so is a hell of alot of the marvel universe... i mean any superhero that is popular is a top tier fighter.
i think spiderman will be vulnerable in the air to cyclops blasts. that is because spiderman is not a flier he has no methord of proputition other then the swing meaning that he cant maneuver. i dont think spiderman has many blasters in his rogues gallaries i can only think of electro off the top of my hat
Originally posted by masterbruce
How would Spiderman avoid Cyke's blast when he is airborne?(lets say Cyke blasts at him, Spidey jumps to avoid it, while he is in midair, Cyke could easily shoot a second blast at his midpoint so it won't matter if he twists or turns)
Because he does it all the time?
Edit: I can't believe I forgot about this. Spider-Man doesn't just JUMP without anything else to aid him a lot of times, AKA: webbing.
Spidey jumps in the air to avoid a shot, moving extremely fast as he does, uses webbing to maneuver himself. He does it all the time.
Originally posted by masterbruce
but he shouldn't be able to. since he can't fly, once he is in the air, he is at the mercy of gravity more or less.You get what I mean right?
Don't get me wrong, MB. I understand perfectly what you're saying. It's not that hard to comprehend.
But at the same time, Spidey has been dodging things in mid-air pretty much his whole career. His ability to contort his body in such amazing ways really helps a lot, as well as the superhuman reflexes.
Then, like I edited into my previous post, there's the webbing to maneuver him efficiently around.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Don't get me wrong, MB. I understand perfectly what you're saying. It's not that hard to comprehend.But at the same time, Spidey has been dodging things in mid-air pretty much his whole career. His ability to contort his body in such amazing ways really helps a lot, as well as the superhuman reflexes.
Then, like I edited into my previous post, there's the webbing to maneuver him efficiently around.
1. Your point about contortion: There is a center of mass that you can't just contort out of. So if Cyke was aiming for Spidey's arms or legs or even head while he is in midair, yes Spiderman can possibly contort enough to dodge it. But if Cyke aims for his torso, or pelvic region, Spidey's outta luck.
2. Spiderman can web swing to move in midair...but that is sloooow compared to the time it takes Cyke to fire a blast.
However, I'll just accept as one of Spiderman's abilities to be able to magically defy the laws of physics and dodge things in midair. It wouldn't be fair for me to critique Spiderman on scientific basis when many other things also are far-fetched.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Don't get me wrong, MB. I understand perfectly what you're saying. It's not that hard to comprehend.But at the same time, Spidey has been dodging things in mid-air pretty much his whole career. His ability to contort his body in such amazing ways really helps a lot, as well as the superhuman reflexes.
Then, like I edited into my previous post, there's the webbing to maneuver him efficiently around.
Spider-man's webbing doesn't move at mach speed, there is a latency between the time it is release from his wrist and it hits what he is aiming at, even though he might squeeze down on his palm before Cyclops can think about fireing off a blast, he would still get tagged before his web line snagged anything...
And no amount of contortion will allow him to evade an attack aimed center mass.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Spider-man's webbing doesn't move at mach speed, there is a latency between the time it is release from his wrist and it hits what he is aiming at, even though he might squeeze down on his palm before Cyclops can think about fireing off a blast, he would still get tagged before his web line snagged anything...And no amount of contortion will allow him to evade an attack aimed center mass.
I'm just going to accept as one of Spiderman's powers the ability to dodge most things, regardless of the application of physics. Think of his power as the ability to distort space/reality around his body when he is in danger.
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Originally posted by rougeredmage
i have read enough xmen to know about wolverine i have also read enough xmen and marvel comics in general to know how disgusted i am what wolverine has become. sure wolverine is a top tier fighter so is cyclops then again so is a hell of alot of the marvel universe... i mean any superhero that is popular is a top tier fighter.
Cyclopes is not even close to be top tier. Again you show your lack of knowledge and bais towards Cyclopes. I am sorry but Cyclopes is at best 4th tier and even then I am not sure. Punisher would destroy scot in h2h combat and he 2nd tier at best
Hm.
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I see.
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Yes, go on.
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Interesting...
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Yes, it all makes sense now...
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Hm.http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=29817cz.gif
I see.
http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=43119qq.gif
Yes, go on.
http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=33655wg.gif
Interesting...
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=38554kn.png
Yes, it all makes sense now...
Examples of either A) bad guy missing Spider-man or B) bad guy aiming at Spider-man's limbs. What a bunch of mooks... if they aimed center mass - which any one worth their weight in salt would - Spider-man would be down.
My God.
Especially this one, guys.
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Look at it. Seriously. Am I the ONLY one that sees what Spider-Man is doing with his body there? Look at the trajectory and then how is able to move his whole body through the air.
All four of those scans are examples of this.
Carnage missed. His shot was to low and he never readjusted his blast as Spider-man descended to earth. He did a flip mid-air and continued to not be hit by a blast that wasn't hitting him in the first place. If the blast was a foot and a half higher he would have been hit, nothing he could have done about it.
