Originally posted by Galan007
Unless AM can transport MJJ to unspace, there is no way he can be beaten.
True,
but AM would have to teleport Jaspers, before Jaspers turned him into a cup of tea.
Remember, the Fury was able to last long enough to figure out how to defeat Jaspers because the Fury was Immune to Jaspers' 238 Warping powers. (and the Fury was able to shapeshift out of every Warp 616 Jaspers threw at him, but NOT for ever) the Fury was greatly weakened after the battle,
this suggests the Fury had it's limits (atleast against Jaspers 616)
(excerpt from Fury's bio, Offical Marvel 2006)
The Fury withstood Universal Nullification, and Jaspers' Warps
(excerpt from Jaspers' bio, Official marvel 2006)
AM was not created by Jaspers,
AM would not be immune.
both have reality-warping powers but it seems MJJ can't transform all he wishes "at will"
eg. suppose he could transform the Fury into a cup of tea - the Fury would not have been able to transform back because it would no longer be the Fury, just a cup of tea ^^
(or maybe the Fury is also impervious to reality warping so it doesn't even need to shapeshift since it can't be warped in the 1st place - perhaps this was stated somewhere but I can't recall)
DC reality warp also seems a lot stronger than Marvel reality warp (just an impression though) so I'd have to give an easy victory for AM
btw. didn't even mxy fear the anti-monitor ???
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
reality warpers from DC verse can alter reality say by rewriting the laws of logic itself
(for example making it so that "1+1=3"😉any similar examples in the Marvelverse ??
That's not anything more impressive than what MJJ did, not too mention AM didn't even do that.
So... 😕
Originally posted by Mindset? it's WAY more impressive
That's not anything more impressive than what MJJ did, not too mention AM didn't even do that.So... 😕
isn't reality warping in Marvel verse restricted to warping space & time ? (read this in another thread here too). for example you can distort space or slow down time but the laws of logic remain the same
your right I don't recall AM doing it but the 5D imps did fear the AM, so if they could could do it then not a stretch to speculate that AM could do it too
Originally posted by SoulDevourerSo making 1+1=3 is more impressive than being able to make a universe where everything is governed by your whim?
? it's WAY more impressiveisn't reality warping in Marvel verse restricted to warping space & time ? (read this in another thread here too). for example you can distort space or slow down time but the laws of logic remain the same
your right I don't recall AM doing it but the 5D imps did fear the AM, so if they could could do it then not a stretch to speculate that AM could do it too
No, not so much.
Reality Warpers in Marvel have destroyed actual concepts, you're telling me that is less impressive than changing logic?
Mxy was scared of SMP, that doesn't mean much.
Originally posted by Mindset"make a universe" ? MJJ could only alter existing reality not create stuff ex nihilo (that was his weakness)
So making 1+1=3 is more impressive than being able to make a universe where everything is governed by your whim?No, not so much.
Reality Warpers in Marvel have destroyed actual concepts, you're telling me that is less impressive than changing logic?
Mxy was scared of SMP, that doesn't mean much.
ok let me put it this way : 1+1=3 doesn't sound like much (what is it after all, just an odd equation using an ASCII keyboard)
but now imagine the CONSEQUENCES of this - that's when things start to get messy ^__^
now Beyonder erased Death (but then is it a concept or just a high-level sentient being ? ie. did people stop dying when he did this ?)
and even IF Death was a concept & he erased it then yes it is impressive - but unfortunately that was retconned
"SMP" ???