Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is the slowest person that can tag Spiderman?
Originally posted by masterbruce
If you read most of the Spiderman versus threads, the number one argument in most cases by pro-spidey people is that he won't be hit due to his agility and spidersense, thus why I created this thread...as a common answer to pretty much every thread Spiderman is involved in.As for your opinion, could you answer my question on who you think is the slowest guy that could consistently land hits on spiderman? I dont care if you may have any bias, I think your answer would still help me in my analysis.
Hrm.
Well, among his rogues, I'd say maybe Doc Ock or Venom (or other symbiote). Most of his other villians either need to rely on spread fire (Electro/Shocker/any of the Goblins/etc.) or a plot device. But those two are pretty consistently able to hit Pete.
I really don't remember seeing a "normal human" hit him without a plot device or good reason....pretty much ever, really. I'd love to hear some examples if they're out there, but I'm guessing nearly all of them have a valid excuse.
Wolverine honestly can't lay too many hits on him. Spidey would dodge the vast majority. The reason that's an issue is because basically 1 hit kills in Logan's case. But he's not going to be landing nearly as many hits as nearly any of Spidey's villians.
Re: Who is the slowest person that can tag Spiderman?
Originally posted by masterbruce
Spiderman on KMC is made out to be an unhittable god, by certain unnamed individuals. It seems like they think he could pretty much avoid getting hit, despite him getting clocked all the time in his comics by even street thugs, but of course that is PIS...lol.So who is the slowest person who can consistently hit Spiderman?
Originally posted by DigiMark007
DD would only hit Pete if he let him....he might get a shot or two in if he's lucky, but the difference in powers should mean SM never gets touched.Priest's assessment is pretty good too. It really depends on the writer.
DD's tricked his spidey sense before, and the fact that dd can feel what direction spidermans moveing in IMO should enable him to hit spiderman more consistantly that most street level characters. And im speaking strictly street level, so when i say DD shuold be able to more than most street level, thast still not a whole lot as compared to someone in spidermans speed range
btw, are you speaking stricly NO offense from spidey?
IE, the attacker just gets to try and hit him?
i guess thats not terribly relevant, though
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Hrm.Well, among his rogues, I'd say maybe Doc Ock or Venom (or other symbiote). Most of his other villians either need to rely on spread fire (Electro/Shocker/any of the Goblins/etc.) or a plot device. But those two are pretty consistently able to hit Pete.
I really don't remember seeing a "normal human" hit him without a plot device or good reason....pretty much ever, really. I'd love to hear some examples if they're out there, but I'm guessing nearly all of them have a valid excuse.
Wolverine honestly can't lay too many hits on him. Spidey would dodge the vast majority. The reason that's an issue is because basically 1 hit kills in Logan's case. But he's not going to be landing nearly as many hits as nearly any of Spidey's villians.
Ditto
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
DD's tricked his spidey sense before, and the fact that dd can feel what direction spidermans moveing in IMO should enable him to hit spiderman more consistantly that most street level characters. And im speaking strictly street level, so when i say DD shuold be able to more than most street level, thast still not a whole lot as compared to someone in spidermans speed range
btw, are you speaking stricly NO offense from spidey?
IE, the attacker just gets to try and hit him?
i guess thats not terribly relevant, though
He managed to trick the ss once so I would hardly call that consistently. I doubt Spidey would walk into something like that again though
You need to ask your self, which is the plot device: getting hit by the Vulture or dancing around the Rhino? On the one hand constantly dodging Vulture doesn't make for a good story and on the other Rhino one shoting Spider-man makes for an even worse one. Spider-man's speed is somewhere between the two... which is where characters like Captain American, Daredevil and Wolverine are combat speed wise.
At the start of his career - and for a long time after - Spider-man was getting hit by everyone from the Enforcers to Molten Man... even Rhino was hitting Spider-man in their first fight. Spider-man's ability to dance around bricks only came later out of nescesity after people started realising that a single punch form a brick would result in Spider-man spending the rest of his days a pine box under six feet of earth... and that is the very definition of a plot device.
Spider-man can only contort his body so much and the disparity in speed between himself and, lets say Captain America, isn't so great. If Spider-man is concentrating on evasion he can avoid a melee confrontation with most street levels, (which more to do with his his maneuverability and strength then anything else) but if he is mounting any sort of offence, he is going to get hit. Maybe he can avoid three or four in every five punches Captain America throws at him but at the end of the day he is going to get hit and it doesn't matter whether he wants to get hit or not.