Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
I was assumeing the fighting style allowed here was boxing, which is why i could POSSIBLY see rocky passing the punisher up, as other things determine boxing matches such as pointsbut he DEFINATELY, loses to logan (and im talking no healing factor)
Yes, for all intents and purposes, Wolverine will not be using his healing factor in this match....and only boxing is allowed in this match...no other forms of combat.
Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
Yes, Punisher's a better over-all fighter, but is he a better boxer?Stronger? Hmmmmm, maybe....but strength isn't the most important factor in boxing.
Higher damage soak up? Close...Rocky can take a hell of a lot of damage...did you see Rocky III or IV? Pretty brutal....but yeah, Punisher can take some damage to....I've seen him take a hell of a lot of damage from the likes of the Russian and Barracuda for example...so I'd say they're pretty close in the ring as far as damage is concerned.
Punisher is a brawler, sure he knows some martial arts but when he throws down he doesn't do anything fancy he just throws punches... and he hits like a mac truck... filled to brim with bricks.
Punisher has the highest damage soak just look at his fight with Pittzy, he got a rib blown out with a shot gun... at the started of the fight even. They guy his nuts he got shot in the face three times with rubber bullets (point blank no less) before he blacked out.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Punisher is a brawler, sure he knows some martial arts but when he throws down he doesn't do anything fancy he just throws punches... and he hits like a mac truck... filled to brim with bricks.Punisher has the highest damage soak just look at his fight with Pittzy, he got a rib blown out with a shot gun... at the started of the fight even. They guy his nuts he got shot in the face three times with rubber bullets (point blank no less) before he blacked out.
ide put punishers stamina leauges beyond rocky, obivously
Still, damage soak isint going to get you any points in a boxing match
and punisher could be out of his element here (unless punisehr has some hidden resolve of boxing skill i didnt know about)
Interesting fight. One question. Doesn't Moon Knight have enhanced strength?
1 - Robin: KO
2 - Nightwing: KO
3 - The Punisher: Points
4 - Moon Knight: ? (waiting on answer)
5 - Wolverine (no adamantium skeleton or claws): 3 knockdown rule, or points, but could also lose.
6 - Black Panther: Can't call.
7 - The Kingpin: KO, but probably in the twelth round.
8 - Bane: Same as last one
9 - Batman: KO, but more likely points.
10 - Daredevil: Can't call
11 - Captain America: Points, narrowly
12 - Taskmaster: Loses.
The enhanced strength guys are hard to call. If they're nerfed to peak human, then Rocky could win up to Tasky. If they're at their normal levels, then we have to ask, is Rocky>= Peak human?
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
ide put punishers stamina leauges beyond rocky, obivouslyStill, damage soak isint going to get you any points in a boxing match
and punisher could be out of his element here (unless punisehr has some hidden resolve of boxing skill i didnt know about)
You bob, weave and throw punches... Punisher has good foot work and he knows how to throw a punch, what else do you need to know? Ignore the fact that Punisher (and everyone else) is going to be throwing - at the very least - two/three punches for every one of Rocky's.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Interesting fight. One question. Doesn't Moon Knight have enhanced strength?1 - Robin: KO
2 - Nightwing: KO
3 - The Punisher: Points
4 - Moon Knight: ? (waiting on answer)
5 - Wolverine (no adamantium skeleton or claws): 3 knockdown rule, or points, but could also lose.
6 - Black Panther: Can't call.
7 - The Kingpin: KO, but probably in the twelth round.
8 - Bane: Same as last one
9 - Batman: KO, but more likely points.
10 - Daredevil: Can't call
11 - Captain America: Points, narrowly
12 - Taskmaster: Loses.
The enhanced strength guys are hard to call. If they're nerfed to peak human, then Rocky could win up to Tasky. If they're at their normal levels, then we have to ask, is Rocky>= Peak human?
Put them at thier normal strength levels, and at the MINIMUM, he stops at Batman, if not batman, DEFINATELY daredevil
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Interesting fight. One question. Doesn't Moon Knight have enhanced strength?
Early appearances of Moon Knight depict his ability to gain enhanced strength, endurance and reflexes with the waxing and waning phases of the moon. The fuller the moon, the more strength Moon Knight derives from it.
But nowadays, I don't think that applies anymore...but enhanced strength or not, I don't think Moon Knight's stronger than Clubber Lang; and DEFINATELY not stronger than Ivan Drago was in Rocky IV.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It is. If you know how to get your weight into a punch, and have good coordination and foot work, you can box.
Its that simple? Fundamentally, sure. If you want to box causally at Ronans Gym on thursday nights. But to complete well beyond that? I can assure you, thier is MUCH more to it than that. Not only that, it takes quite a bit of work to do what you just stated.
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Wolverine should be at 11, or 12. He'a a great master of martial arts. He stop at King Pin.
No, he shouldn't.
I know Wolverine is a great martial artist, but his martial arts skills aren't in question here...we're looking at only his boxing skills...and no way is Logan a better boxer than Cap, D.D., or even Batman....
Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
No, he shouldn't.I know Wolverine is a great martial artist, but his martial arts skills aren't in question here...we're looking at only his boxing skills...and no way is Logan a better boxer than Cap, D.D., or even Batman....
Strictly boxing? probably not
better than rocky?
ide be inclined to believe so