Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Oh my f*cking god, Vinny. Don't be so outrageously ignorant. When you alter something scarcely, it's a distortion. Can you please learn this?"A distortion is the alteration of the original shape (or other characteristic) of an object, image, sound, waveform or other form of information or representation."
Alteration doesn't mean f*cking change, goddammit! You're going to try to tell me alteration means change now? Stop parallelizing!
And yes Alteration does mean change
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=define%3Aalteration&btnG=Search
Alteration:
# change: an event that occurs when something passes from one state or phase to another; "the change was intended to increase sales"; "this storm is certainly a change for the worse"; "the neighborhood had undergone few modifications since his last visit years ago"
# the act of making something different (as e.g. the size of a garment)
Originally posted by ThePittman
And yes Alteration does mean changehttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=define%3Aalteration&btnG=Search
[b]Alteration:
# change: an event that occurs when something passes from one state or phase to another; "the change was intended to increase sales"; "this storm is certainly a change for the worse"; "the neighborhood had undergone few modifications since his last visit years ago"
# the act of making something different (as e.g. the size of a garment) [/B]
Alteration: "Change, Adjustment or Modification".
Alteration means to alter, actually. Hahaha, you're doing it again. Alteration does not directly mean change. It has it's own meaning and own function. Why do you justify all these things as change? Just like hyperbole isn't metaphor and similie isn't metaphor but they use metaphorical methods for hypothetical and figurative points.
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Moron and Idiot aren't exactly huge Bashing words.
But pointing out the obvious is?
Originally posted by Seraphim XIIIDo you even know what the word “Change” means? This is where you just make your own IQ drop every time you try and say that Change is something specific, it is not it describe ANYTHING that is different from the original or the perception of the original. If you put something that alters the light from an object so that the viewer sees the object differently you have effetely change the perception of the object without changing the object, this is a CHANGE because something is different to make something look or be different, PERIOD.
Alteration: "Change, Adjustment or Modification".Alteration means to alter, actually. Hahaha, you're doing it again. Alteration does not directly mean change. It has it's own meaning and own function. Why do you justify all these things as change? Just like hyperbole isn't metaphor and similie isn't metaphor but they use metaphorical methods for hypothetical and figurative points.
But pointing out the obvious is?
So you are saying that you are smarter than the people at Princeton and that they don’t know the meaning of Alteration?
Originally posted by ThePittman
Do you even know what the word “Change” means? This is where you just make your own IQ drop every time you try and say that Change is something specific, it is not it describe ANYTHING that is different from the original or the perception of the original. If you put something that alters the light from an object so that the viewer sees the object differently you have effetely change the perception of the object without changing the object, this is a CHANGE because something is different to make something look or be different, PERIOD.
[b]
Change:
1. undergo a change; become different in essence; losing one's or its original nature
2. make or become different in some particular way
3. to convert to something elseSo you are saying that you are smarter than the people at Princeton and that they don’t know the meaning of Alteration? [/B]
No, foolishness again. Let me explain something. Alteration utilizes change, okay? But the differences are obvious. An alteration is more like a modification and a minor change. Same with distortion; Minor imagery change, am I right? You're trying to justify this:
ALTERATION = CHANGE
DISTORTION = CHANGE
That's not how it is. In order for these two to be MUTUALLY the same concept, idea and meaning ...
They must BE ABLE TO INITIATE UTILIZATION FOR EACH MEANING, but it's not that way. It's only distortion working in the effect of a small change and Alteration working in the effect of a small change.
Jesus, stop dancing around. You tried to justify them as the same thing. All these fall into change because they utilize change, it's not mutually exclusive though. Sorry, dude.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Distortion
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Change
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Alteration
If these were parallel, there'd be one link, not three. Get over it.
citedfrom one of the sources you gave us (i have only removed the irelevant pieces):
Change, alter both mean to make a difference in the state or condition of a thing or to substitute another state or condition
alter
[syn: change]
distortion
4.a change
im not very experienced with this, but i think thats a phail.
Originally posted by LifeInSepia
citedfrom one of the sources you gave us (i have only removed the irelevant pieces):im not very experienced with this, but i think thats a phail.
^ Fail.
Alteration utilizes change, okay? But the differences are obvious. An alteration is more like a modification and a minor change. Same with distortion; Minor imagery change
Originally posted by Seraphim XIIINo you are wrong again, you keep thinking I’m saying that Change is the exact same thing as Distortion which I have NEVER said and have told you a myriad of times. The word change doesn’t refer to any specific type of difference but that something has been changed where distortion is referring to a type of change that has been done. This is why there are different definitions of the word and not only that but there are also other uses of the word such as changing your clothes, money or what ever and that is some seriously flawed logic on your part.
No, foolishness again. Let me explain something. Alteration utilizes change, okay? But the differences are obvious. An alteration is more like a modification and a minor change. Same with distortion; Minor imagery change, am I right? You're trying to justify this:ALTERATION = CHANGE
DISTORTION = CHANGE
That's not how it is. In order for these two to be MUTUALLY the same concept, idea and meaning ...
They must BE ABLE TO INITIATE UTILIZATION FOR EACH MEANING, but it's not that way. It's only distortion working in the effect of a small change and Alteration working in the effect of a small change.
Jesus, stop dancing around. You tried to justify them as the same thing. All these fall into change because they utilize change, it's not mutually exclusive though. Sorry, dude.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Distortion
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Change
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Alteration
If these were parallel, there'd be one link, not three. Get over it.
You keep missing this part, Distortion has to use change. You can not distort something and not change something, distortion can not exist or be done without change it is a part of it therefore if you distort something you have changed it. The definition of Alteration that I provided was from Princeton, so if you are saying that they don’t know what the meaning of the word is and that you are smarter than the entire school then you are as bright as a 3 watt light bulb.
The point I am trying to make here (I'll display it in Laymans) is simply:
Change is not the same thing as Distortion. Change is not the same thing as Alteration. Alteration is not the same thing as change. Distortion is not the same thing as Change.
They don't EQUAL each other. That is what I'm trying to say.
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
^ Fail.
sorry, but no, i refute your statement. You can't reject someone or something just because they make a point you disagree with. I have facts and proofs, cited from your own evidence that contradicts your argument in 3 separate ways. You are immature, rude, pigheaded, foolish, in delusion and wrong. Report me if you must, but i had to say this.
Originally posted by ThePittman
No you are wrong again, you keep thinking I’m saying that Change is the exact same thing as Distortion which I have NEVER said and have told you a myriad of times. The word change doesn’t refer to any specific type of difference but that something has been changed where distortion is referring to a type of change that has been done. This is why there are different definitions of the word and not only that but there are also other uses of the word such as changing your clothes, money or what ever and that is some seriously flawed logic on your part.
You want these threads merged. The only way something gets merged is if it's parallel to another thread. This isn't. Storm has made that clear and I'm trying to myself.
Good, I'm glad you're not saying they're the same. They aren't. This thread deserves to stand on it's own, especially with the distortion you're utilizing (Imagery Distortion); It's a completely different animal than renaming a poster, right?
Wow, way to smack your own logic in it's proverbial face.
You keep missing this part, Distortion has to use change. You can not distort something and not change something, distortion can not exist or be done without change it is a part of it therefore if you distort something you have changed it. The definition of Alteration that I provided was from Princeton, so if you are saying that they don’t know what the meaning of the word is and that you are smarter than the entire school then you are as bright as a 3 watt light bulb.
My source comes from their actual definitions? Lol. Don't be foolish.
Distortion, Change and Alteration are three different things. Similar, but different. They are not the same because they do not mutually utilize each other, for the last f*cking time. The thread simply should not be merged (WHICH HAS BEEN MADE CLEAR) because they are DIFFERENT THINGS.
Two different definitions, two different words, two different functions ....
Distortion uses change, yes. Does Change use distortion? Nope. If they were the same, they would be mutually EXCLUSIVE.
Layman's terms? They'd be using each other. They are not.