Originally posted by Soujaboy
Actually it makes a major difference. While Hulk is calm or a mid class 100 character, they could simply amp their strength to planetary lv strength or far beyond. They could then simply one shot him or something to that effect.An editor stating Juggernaut has limitless strength isn't an opinion.
Superman and Thor aren't even in the same company of characters.
Tell us when Juggernaut has ever had a problem with any strength feat?
Yes, it is. Especially after they say it is. Editors and writers give their opinions all the time. Busiek once stated that Superman was far above Thor (though he admitted to be joking at the time) and PAD once said he wasn't sure if Hulk could Hercules. These are opinions that don’t mean much of any thing until they appear in a comic.
No, but that statement did come from Kurt Busiek, who wrote both Superman and Thor comics during his career.
So because he’s never had problem with any strength feats that means his strength is limitless? Faulty logic. Jugguernaut’s strength feats aren’t even that spectacular compared to most top-tiers.
Originally posted by Accel
And Hulk has shown to amp his strength to ridiculously high levels in a short amount of time as well. The outcome's still the same.Yes, it is. Especially after they say it is. Editors and writers give their opinions all the time. Busiek once stated that Superman was far above Thor (though he admitted to be joking at the time) and PAD once said he wasn't sure if Hulk could Hercules. These are opinions that don’t mean much of any thing until they appear in a comic.
No, but that statement did come from Kurt Busiek, who wrote both Superman and Thor comics during his career.
So because he’s never had problem with any strength feats that means his strength is limitless? Faulty logic. Jugguernaut’s strength feats aren’t even that spectacular compared to most top-tiers.
How would Hulk go about "amping" his strength without being provoked? He's too dependent on emotions to match those who can simply amp their power at a whim.
Ok, I don't feel the need to debate whether or not Cain has limitless strength.
Here's the definition for immerasurable, something Marvel has stated in their handbooks for the longest.
im·meas·ur·a·ble (ĭ-mĕzh'ər-ə-bəl) pronunciation
adj.
1. Impossible to measure. See synonyms at incalculable.
2. Vast; limitless.
So...
Originally posted by Soujaboy
How would Hulk go about "amping" his strength without being provoked? He's too dependent on emotions to match those who can simply amp their power at a whim.Ok, I don't feel the need to debate whether or not Cain has limitless strength.
Here's the definition for immerasurable, something Marvel has stated in their handbooks for the longest.
im·meas·ur·a·ble (ĭ-mĕzh'ər-ə-bəl) pronunciation
adj.1. Impossible to measure. See synonyms at incalculable.
2. Vast; limitless.So...
And just how much credibility do we give handbooks again? I mean, do we only take them literally when it suits are favorite characters? They don't give Juggernaut a definite limit, just like they don't give Hercules or Thor a definite limit, but that doesn't mean hey have unlimited strength either.
Unless it's shown in a comic, Juggernaut doesn't have unlimited strength and any statements that he does is pure fan speculation.
Originally posted by xmeat
CAN HULK AT LEAST BEAT KURSE.
I don't believe so, not with out exploiting his iron weakness. Hulk will fight him good and hard, but it won't bring him down IMO.
I'd LIKE to think Hulk could win against these guys, but in truth, it'll probably not happen unless.
Can he hang with these guys? Sure.
Can he beat the hell out of them? I'd say so.
But I don't think he's going to be the one declared victor at the end of the fight, regardless of how much ass he kicks.
Originally posted by Accel
Hulk's very emotional; Savage Hulk, for instance, is always angry. If someone seems menacing to him, he'll get angrier, stronger, etc. You make it sound like he has trouble amping his strength, which is never the case. Heck, he's already proved he can become stronger at a quicker rate than Surfer can when he overcame the Kree Star Wheel that Surfer couldn't overcome.And just how much credibility do we give handbooks again? I mean, do we only take them literally when it suits are favorite characters? They don't give Juggernaut a definite limit, just like they don't give Hercules or Thor a definite limit, but that doesn't mean hey have unlimited strength either.
Unless it's shown in a comic, Juggernaut doesn't have unlimited strength and any statements that he does is pure fan speculation.
Whatever you say. Characters such as RK Thor and Surfer still have the advantage of strength against Hulk imo. They have no need for emotions when they can simply amp their strength to what they will.
There handbook, they make mistakes. However it's still official, and they officially stated Cain has immeasurable strength. I gave you the definition for immeasurable proving that Cain has limitless strength or strength thats so vast it can't be measured. Why your arguing with me is a mystery.
Sure, I'll stick with Marvel on this one.😉
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Whatever you say. Characters such as RK Thor and Surfer still have the advantage of strength against Hulk imo. They have no need for emotions when they can simply amp their strength to what they will.There handbook, they make mistakes. However it's still official, and they officially stated Cain has immeasurable strength. I gave you the definition for immeasurable proving that Cain has limitless strength or strength thats so vast it can't be measured. Why your arguing with me is a mystery.
Sure, I'll stick with Marvel on this one.😉
Because it's pretty much grasping at straws. The handbooks used to stated that Hulk, Doc Samson, and She-Hulk obtained mass from an extra-dimensional source with no explanation beyond that. Their strength ratings have been wrong for multiple people. If they truly believed Cain's strength was limitless, they'd say just HOW exactly it was limitless. So far, they got nothing.
If Marvel truly believed it, they'd show it in a comic.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Actually there are many characters who are physically more powerful than Hulk.Thanos - Limitless power source in which he can amp his physical strength.
Mangog - Limitless power source
Fallen One - Stated on panel that he has a infinite power source in which he can amp his abilities.
Silver Surfer - Can amp his strength via PC
Thor - With the Odin Power, and Runes could endlessly amp his strength.
Kurse - At base is far stronger than Hulk
Classic Juggernaut - Has a limitless power source
etc
None of them can be stronger than the hulk. Maybe stronger than hulk base level, but the hulk can get stronger than anyone else in comic kingdom, that's his trademark and his detractors can only die for envy, sorry 😆
Deal with it. Hulk is the strongest of all.Comic boards won't change this truth.
Comics >>>>> comics boards