Star Wars: The Force Unleashed.

Originally posted by Thousand
It'll do well. The human mind naturally runs off basic instinct and the first thing that comes to mind is: Control and Power.

The abundance and gigantic amount of power and control that game looks like it's going to fork out will have Gamers in a trance.

I know I'd get bored with it. All that power, and there's no challenge. Does it really count as a game without challenge?

I dunno. If it had incredible Force-based puzzles throughout, maybe. But the emphasis seems to be on attacking, and this overpowered it'd just be like any other hack'n'slash, only more of a float'n'crash.

Originally posted by Spidervlad
My point is the game will suck if they make it easy, but they won't. You just saw the goddamn powers, you didn't see the AI or the bosses you would be facing. You can't really say if the game will be too easy or not. It would be cool if the game wasn't easy and you could use crazy powers.

Oh, and Multiplayer would rock only if they add some original ideas to it. Like game types.

That's mis-understanding what she is saying. The contention is that the game is stylisitically over-powered, not that the main character is too powerful for any game challenge.

But as I said before- the game will suck because this attitude of overpowering is part of a general attitude to game design from Lucasarts and affiliates for a long time that has made their games relatively poor.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
I know I'd get bored with it. All that power, and there's no challenge. Does it really count as a game without challenge?

I dunno. If it had incredible Force-based puzzles throughout, maybe. But the emphasis seems to be on attacking, and this overpowered it'd just be like any other hack'n'slash, only more of a float'n'crash.

That's the point. People want to play God. Having seemingly demi-godlike powers is fascinating.

But it doesn't belong in Star Wars.

Like I keep saying- back in the days of X-Wing when they desperately tried to make the games feel as much like the fils as possible, with that sort of respect for the source material, Lucasarts were king of the gaming world. These days it is just bland action game cliches, like these super-powers. They've suffered.

They don't belong in Star Wars? Marka Ragnos, Naga Sadow, Ludo Kressh, Nihilus, Sion, Exar Kun or DE Sidious ringing any bells? Several times, force users with Godlike abilities have been introduced into the EU.

Comic books, Novels, Games ... It belongs in Star Wars. Hell, especially considering this is EU.

exactly what ush is trying to say
the EU, not the movies, which are more important than a bunch of fan made sequels/prequels

Originally posted by MadMel
exactly what ush is trying to say
the EU, not the movies, which are more important than a bunch of fan made sequels/prequels

That's an understatement, especially when referring to canonical material.

Originally posted by Thousand
They don't belong in Star Wars? Marka Ragnos, Naga Sadow, Ludo Kressh, Nihilus, Sion, Exar Kun or DE Sidious ringing any bells? Several times, force users with Godlike abilities have been introduced into the EU.

Comic books, Novels, Games ... It belongs in Star Wars. Hell, especially considering this is EU.

Rings a bell?

Only bell it rings for me is confirming my opinion that most of the EU is utter crap.

Originally posted by Lana
Only bell it rings for me is confirming my opinion that most of the EU is utter crap.

Which in fact is not true, unfortunately that's the opinion floating around by people who haven't read much.

Originally posted by Morridini
Which in fact is not true, unfortunately that's the opinion floating around by people who haven't read much.

Except I have read a lot of it...a rather huge amount in fact. So I'd say it's a pretty educated opinion.

Well I know it isn't full of crap, there's a lot of great stuff there. People however seem to focus on weird stuff I have never even heard of (Emerald Lightning by the Emperor or whatnot I haven't ever seen mentioned).

There's a lot of adolescent stuff there that appeals to those who like comic book powers, but the EU is not a source of great movies.

In any case- computer games are a visual/action experience. They do best when simulating a similar experience- i.e. the films and NOT the endless mire that is the books. Btw, 'canon' for the EU just means within the EU, as I keep making clear. GL holds no solid association between the EU and his films as he has made extremely clear, hence Fett being dead in the films but alive in the EU (again, something that has been clearly and directly said). The two do not overlap in contunuity.

Like I say, it is the same trouble KOTOR had with its absurd force powers.

The vast majority of Star Wars fans have seen the films only. There's the core audience. And once more, Lucasarts did best when they stick to that. The gorwing encroachment of an EU mentaltiy is coupled with a decline in their SW game quality.

Which is why KOTOR is considered by many to be there best game! As well win Game of the Year!

Wait..

Originally posted by Lana
Rings a bell?

Only bell it rings for me is confirming my opinion that most of the EU is utter crap.

The EU was interesting and still had some expansive and deeply intriguing characters, such as Ulic and Kun.

Also, the story of the Sith Civil War was deeply enveloping as well.

The EU rapes the childhoods of all the people who were alive went to go see the OT in theatres.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
Which is why KOTOR is considered by many to be there best game! As well win Game of the Year!

Wait..

Not even vaguely made by Lucasarts- a Star Wars cover for the makers' Baldur's Gate/Neverwinter Nights system- and in any case overrated on some of these precise reasons, e.g. horribly banal and silly force powers, to whit the 'Force Destroy Droid' I mention above which is worthy only of contempt.

Most people that consider KOTOR to be Lucasarts' best product are either very young or have very poor memory; it caused nothing like the critical sensation of their earlier games and the franchise blatantly stalled due to the creative lack behind it.

And really, Thousand, no, there was nothing interesting about them at all; just, as I say, adolescent comic stuff.

ill probably get this game, just for the MP (im sure it comes out on pc, right?)
but i wont really think of it as an SW game..

Well, to be honest Star Wars movies may be called adolescent comic stuff as well- it is just that EU was often very unoriginal and really raised the power level, especially regarding force powers. Still, I remember how excited I was to find Thrawn Trilogy back in primary school- I didn`t know that EU existed at all then!

Well it hardly existed before Zahn's books came out. Some older comics that I don't think is canon anymore and some RPGs were all.

Originally posted by Lord Melkor
Well, to be honest Star Wars movies may be called adolescent comic stuff as well!

That would be fairly silly- it's not adolescent, it is kiddy.