Star Wars: The Force Unleashed.

Started by FistOfThe North47 pages

"TFU" is "Jedi Knight" on 'roids.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You must not've read the entire thing out of laziness. I said aren't games only $50 tops now, back when that FF game came out 5 or more years ago, before the new net gen systems, when they actually were $50? Meaning i said this back then. (get up, go back and read it.)

So you're wrong there. Go check the proof provided.

And secondly tfu is a fixed story. And it had it's determined length. We found out all we needed to know about the story and anymore would've been pointless.

Get over it.


The chronological length of the story is something like sixteen years. Even ignoring the timeskip gap to Starkiller's adult age, it still likely took several weeks. Any good developer can use that time period to great success. What about when he's searching for Kota? Searching the Galaxy on a hunch, even with lightspeed, takes a long time, and the trip from Nar Shaddaa to Bespin was certainly not a straight path. All that time, all those planets, a good developer could use to extend the gameplay and allow Starkiller and his crew to grow as characters. If Juno had spent more time interacting with Starkiller, their romantic subplot would have been far less tacked-on and, as a result, silly.

There was plenty of time within the story for additional adventures. It just takes some honest effort and dedication to your craft.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I am confused a bit. The way you people talk about it it seems like TFU is like a better version of Jedi Knight (shooter/action), but the videos look more like a game á la Farenheit (button pressing cut scenes). Can someone clarify?

It's a third-person action game like JK, with the ends of boss and miniboss battles having Quick-Time Events for a cinematic finish.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You must not've read the entire thing out of laziness. I said aren't games only $50 tops now, back when that FF game came out 5 or more years ago, before the new net gen systems, when they actually were $50? Meaning i said this back then. (get up, go back and read it.)

So you're wrong there. Go check the proof provided.

And secondly tfu is a fixed story. And it had it's determined length. We found out all we needed to know about the story and anymore would've been pointless.

Get over it.

Or rather, your lack of punctuation or italics or other ways of distinguishing thoughts made what you said easy to misread. So that's on you.

And what is obviously a poorly remembered thought is not proof of anything. Sorry.

Nothing more to find out about his story? How about the level that's in the Wii/PS2 version that was cut from the 360/PS3 and is being added back in through DLC? What about all of the other levels that were cut? How about the fact that we really learn nothing about Starkiller or Juno or any other character during the actual game itself? What about the timeskips that occur?

There's tons more to be found out.

And TFU has nothing on JK, and anyone who thinks that, I'd have to question if they ever played JK.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Wrong. I never said it wasn't short. In fact i said it was short. A bit short. Shorter than a standard game definitely.

And it being a bad game because of it is your opinion. Am i entitled to mine, in saying that even though it was short, i still had fun with it or liked it? The answers yes. And i'll tell you you'll get absolutely nowhere telling me that i don't reserve that right.

So don't even waste your typing time.

Don't make feeble comments like that last one when you have not even bothered to read my post properly. You also make yourself a giant hypocrite in this regard, attacking others for it when you have not done it yourself.

I didn't say it was bad, you made that up. You WERE saying that those other games were bad examples to judge the length of a game by, which is what was such obvious nonsense. You are trying to claim that longer games would cost more; this is evident bullshit.

It's not the standard in any way at all, it is a valid criticism of the game, and I don't give a damn if you vaguely said it was a 'bit' short, you are trying to excuse its short length on industry grounds, which puts you on the factually incorrect side of this debate.

So I will use my typing time to keep reminding of that for as long as it takes.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Don't make feeble comments like that last one when you have not even bothered to read my post properly. You also make yourself a giant hypocrite in this regard, attacking others for it when you have not done it yourself.

I didn't say it was bad, you made that up. You WERE saying that those other games were bad examples to judge the length of a game by, which is what was such obvious nonsense. You are trying to claim that longer games would cost more; this is evident bullshit.

It's not the standard in any way at all, it is a valid criticism of the game, and I don't give a damn if you vaguely said it was a 'bit' short, you are trying to excuse its short length on industry grounds, which puts you on the factually incorrect side of this debate.

So I will use my typing time to keep reminding of that for as long as it takes.

Feeble? What are you Darth Sidious? (wait, why am i acting surprised as if you don't act like him sometimes.) And can you actually explain how i was being hypocritical instead of just regurgitating the word.. Attacking others when i have not done it myself? What?

And you always think someone's attacking someone when it's really you blowing it out of proportion unrightfully and unnecessarily. I'm just typing. So relax and take a chill pill.

Anyway Star Wars cannot compare itself to the video game giants that those game examples are. And that's beside Star Wars rep for delivering mostly bad games. So throw that out.

And you're the one that's absolutely incorrect if you think market forces have nothing to do with a game. It's the biggest factor. Lik i said, for ex: look at movies or comic book movies that turn into video games and how sh*tty 90% are.

So keep wasting typing time all you want for as long as you want. You'll really be wasting your time, no matter how long you keep doing it especially if you think that "tfu" should've been longer than it was cause it's not industry standard length or because you felt it wasn't.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Feeble? What are you Darth Sidious?

huh? So because our dear friend Palps/Sids uses a word, we can't?? 😖

Anyways! I haven't personally tried any of the other costumes yet for the 360, still working on such 😛 But for these extra costumes, like Kota, Shaak Ti, etc., they have the same powers as Starkiller does I assume??

Kota looks good, not liking Shaak Ti at all though...

One of FU's biggest selling points was that it was set during the dark time, which it wasnt... Only two years before ANH, two years!

Originally posted by General G
huh? So because our dear friend Palps/Sids uses a word, we can't?? 😖

Anyways! I haven't personally tried any of the other costumes yet for the 360, still working on such 😛 But for these extra costumes, like Kota, Shaak Ti, etc., they have the same powers as Starkiller does I assume??


Shaak Ti's not a costume in the 360 version yet, far as I know...

Originally posted by Nactous
One of FU's biggest selling points was that it was set during the dark time, which it wasnt... Only two years before ANH, two years!

It's the height of the Empire. How is that not the "dark times" Obi-Wan alluded to? Hell, ANH itself was set during those same "dark times"!

Dark times refers to the period where the Empire was doing whatever it takes to take control. Hence the Dark Times comic book series...

As TFU was always said to take place around 2 BBY, I'm not seeing what your problem is here.

No, every interview had it stated as a "game that explores the Dark Times, set between episode three and four" 2 years isn't between...

Originally posted by Nactous
No, every interview had it stated as a "game that explores the Dark Times, set between episode three and four" 2 years isn't between...

Um, yes, it is. Hi there, basic math.

Originally posted by Nactous
No, every interview had it stated as a "game that explores the Dark Times, set between episode three and four" 2 years isn't between...

Um.

It takes place after Episode III. It also takes place before Episode IV.

How could that possibly be not between the two?!

Between? No, before.

Originally posted by Nactous
Between? No, before.

Explain to me how a game that is set after ROTS and before ANH does not take place between the two.

Star Wars may not adhere to real-life physics, but it's still bound by the constraints of time.

The description of the game eluded to things wed never seen before, a time that wasn't flushed out. There are plenty of events that happened up to five years before ANH.

Not in the video games or the films! 😱

Seriously, Nactous? Not making much sense. Any span of time between Episode III and Episode IV is what it has referred to. Between is not 'right in the middle,' between is somewhere in the 20 years between the two films.

Originally posted by Nactous
The description of the game eluded to things wed never seen before, a time that wasn't flushed out. There are plenty of events that happened up to five years before ANH.
Originally posted by Brit
Not in the video games or the films! 😱

Exactly. 95% of people who know Star Wars know the movies, and that's it. Maybe the games. So for a great deal of people who played TFU? This is the first time they've ever seen anything between the two eras.