Captain America versus Lady Shiva

Started by The Fake Macoy11 pages

To be honest, I've seen Batman pull out more impressive feats of skill than Cap, and Shiva's had even more impressive feats. However, Cap has the SSS and Batman's way larger than Shiva. The real question in this match is whether or not Cap's superior physical stats are enough to take care of Shiva's skill. BTW, if anyone mentions Cap's skill, remember that Iron Fist called Cap's technique basic.

Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
To be honest, I've seen Batman pull out more impressive feats of skill than Cap, and Shiva's had even more impressive feats. However, Cap has the SSS and Batman's way larger than Shiva. The real question in this match is whether or not Cap's superior physical stats are enough to take care of Shiva's skill. BTW, if anyone mentions Cap's skill, remember that Iron Fist called Cap's technique basic.

And Cap said that while Iron Fist's skill was good, it was no where NEAR good ENOUGH.

Your point? Just because a technique is basic doesn't make it ineffective, or worse than 'advanced' technique. Cap knows exactly what he's doing, and in a hand to hand fight, will take Shiva or Batman for the majority.

If you bring gadgets into it, Batman'd take cap, but Shiva doesn't even have that luxury. She just plain loses here. 😬.

Originally posted by Soljer
And Cap said that while Iron Fist's skill was good, it was no where NEAR good ENOUGH.

Your point? Just because a technique is basic doesn't make it ineffective, or worse than 'advanced' technique. Cap knows exactly what he's doing, and in a hand to hand fight, will take Shiva or Batman for the majority.

If you bring gadgets into it, Batman'd take cap, but Shiva doesn't even have that luxury. She just plain loses here. 😬.

People Just don't get it Soljer

Shiva is the better Martial Artist, Cap is the better fighter.

Are we wrong for realizing their is in fact a difference!!? 😕

Originally posted by Apolloknight
People Just don't get it Soljer

Shiva is the better Martial Artist, Cap is the better fighter.

Are we wrong for realizing their is in fact a difference!!? 😕

He certainly plays in the same league she does, with his own brand of ass whooping. I agreed with that earlier. 🙂

I personally say Shiva is like Electra, if someone believes Electra can beat Cap, it's not far fetched to think they would also think Shiva could.

I just think using Batman as a benchmark for much of any of this is wrong, as he'd take just about every character mentioned in this thread. Especially with use of tactics, environment and gadgets.

Originally posted by Juntai

I just think using Batman as a benchmark for much of any of this is wrong, as he'd take just about every character mentioned in this thread. Especially with use of tactics, environment and gadgets.

Cept for BP

*runs and hides" 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Apolloknight
People Just don't get it Soljer

Shiva is the better Martial Artist, Cap is the better fighter.

Are we wrong for realizing their is in fact a difference!!? 😕

This is correct and it shouldnt be that hard for people to understand it. I laugh at the posts that say Cap didnt have time to train and so forth. Why bother trying to figure out how long Captain America trained when its mentioned in practically every Marvel book that Cap is the best H2H combatant in that universe?

I dont think that anybody is trying to say that Captain America knows Martial Arts as well as Shiva, but when its combined with boxing, grappling, and all other forms of fighting styles from a bigger, stronger, and arguably faster person, well,,,,,,,,,,you get the point.

Shiva puts the Champ back on ice.

Originally posted by don't shiv
Shiva puts the Champ back on ice.

Such conclusive evidence, there is no way to debate against that logic.

Also the Beyonder remarked on Cap's skill being "peak" as he studied all the beings on earth.

But not just for skill alone but his indomitable will to prevail. As Beyonder stated no one possessed that quality as high as Cap does. As he called Cap the "ONE".

Originally posted by capt it up
true jsut a lot of capt fanboy hold on to the feat for dear life such as alfhim( how ever he spells it)

Im not a Cap fanboy. I accepted it because physics in comics are different, after reading the scans I retracted it as a feat because when you read it in further detail its not that impressive.

I don't know why but I just felt the need to post this

Cap wins this every time. This match is basically Bruce Lee vs. Muhammed Ali. And Ali would whup Bruce every single time (Bruce has even said this)

Shiva kills Cap with his own shield no less, remember just standing opposite Cap with her eyes open gives Shiva everything she needs to know on how to wield the shield.

like she was born with it.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
I don't know why but I just felt the need to post this

Cap wins this every time. This match is basically Bruce Lee vs. Muhammed Ali. And Ali would whup Bruce every single time (Bruce has even said this)


Are you retarded? Bruce Lee would have killed Muhammed in a fight. it was stated by Muhammed that in a real fight he lose for sure, but in a boxing match he win. Bruce Lee vs Muhammed woudl last 15 seconds at best with Muhammed KOed on the ground

Bruce Lee is overrated. I bet Jackie Chan would beat his ass.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Bruce Lee is overrated. I bet Jackie Chan would beat his ass.

Bruce Lee is no overrated he is possiably the best fighter to have ever lived. Jackie Chan him self has stated he no match for Bruce Lee as has most of the top fighters such as Chuck Noris

Name a few instances Bruce Lee has actually proven he could own Ali in a fight. Using actual fight records.

Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
Name a few instances Bruce Lee has actually proven he could own Ali in a fight. Using actual fight records.

You want me to prove why Bruce Lee could own Ali in a fight? Is this a seorus guestion? Ali is a boxer you know how bad that is when vsing some one who knows and master un known amount of styles.

Originally posted by capt it up
Bruce Lee is no overrated he is possiably the best fighter to have ever lived. Jackie Chan him self has stated he no match for Bruce Lee as has most of the top fighters such as Chuck Noris

Who cares what people SAY. This isn't a comic battle, so words aren't enough to prove jack shit. Also, would it be wise of Jackie Chan and Chuck Norris to say they could take a guy who's dead? That would be something called "Speaking ill of the dead" which is kindof frowned upon.

You want me to prove why Bruce Lee could own Ali in a fight? Is this a seorus guestion? Ali is a boxer you know how bad that is when vsing some one who knows and master un known amount of styles.

Based on what I've seen, I'd say Jackie Chan could TOTALLY own Lee. And lee isn't a master of an unknown amount of martial arts, dude. There's not such thing as an UNKNOWN amount of Arts. That's like saying there's an unknown amount of cars. Maybe they're unknown to you, but not to records.

Bruce Lee was mostly known for making up his own martial art, big deal.

Bruce Lee had a lot of respect for boxers, due to their great strength and stamina and because boxing is better suited for street-fighting.

Boxing is hardly inferior to jeet kune do.