Originally posted by Garfield Cat
He isn't invincible, but he's not beaten very often and Like Kyle says in the crossover with the Silver Surfer when Terrax shows up. I hope that's Superman.
so would i... superman is awesome, he truly is... the sheer amount of superman sigs i've sported since i arrived on kmc, and the fact that me and rewmac had superman as our first pick in the debating tournament we just recently took part in should if nothing else show how much of a fan i am...
Originally posted by pr1983
so would i... superman is awesome, he truly is... the sheer amount of superman sigs i've sported since i arrived on kmc, and the fact that me and rewmac had superman as our first pick in the debating tournament we just recently took part in should if nothing else show how much of a fan i am...
I believe you, but this forum doesn't seem to have many people that read Superman. Certainly not in the long haul. It seems very Marvel biased and anti Superman.
Originally posted by Garfield Cat
I believe you, but this forum doesn't seem to have many people that read Superman. Certainly not in the long haul. It seems very Marvel biased and anti Superman.
All general comics forums are Marvel biased, because the comic business is dominated by Marvel easily, they got about 10% more of the market. Have done for a good while.
Anti superman? Bleh, I reckon people are just fed up of him being perfect.
Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Like I said...that's his jobber aura, not his powerset. With people who can control energy, matter, or flippin' reality, I don't think Superman is all that powerful. His powerset is generic (these days).
i think his jobber aura is incredibly overstated at times... i think he doesnt get the credit he deserves alot of the time...
Originally posted by Garfield Cat
I believe you, but this forum doesn't seem to have many people that read Superman. Certainly not in the long haul. It seems very Marvel biased and anti Superman.
oh, it is... i couldn't agree more... it annoys me, the kind of comments that people come out with sometimes that are usually incredibly uninformed and just plain ignorant...
Originally posted by pr1983
i think his jobber aura is incredibly overstated at times... i think he doesnt get the credit he deserves alot of the time...oh, it is... i couldn't agree more... it annoys me, the kind of comments that people come out with sometimes that are usually incredibly uninformed and just plain ignorant...
I agree with both your points.
Originally posted by "V"
All general comics forums are Marvel biased, because the comic business is dominated by Marvel easily, they got about 10% more of the market. Have done for a good while.Anti superman? Bleh, I reckon people are just fed up of him being perfect.
dc hangs with marvel pretty well as far as i've seen... and if marvel makes more money, its most likely due to the fact that its incredibly commercial, moreso than dc is...
and superman is far from perfect...
Originally posted by Garfield Cat
I agree with both your points.
good... 😛
Originally posted by "V"
All general comics forums are Marvel biased, because the comic business is dominated by Marvel easily, they got about 10% more of the market. Have done for a good while.Anti superman? Bleh, I reckon people are just fed up of him being perfect.
As PR says he is far from perfect, he's even killed.
Originally posted by Garfield Cat
As PR says he is far from perfect, he's even killed.
Never meant like that. I meant unflawed, uber boy scoutish. It bores me to be honest. I don't have anything against the character, I'm just rather disinterested.
http://www.newsarama.com/marketreport/jan07sales.html
(First is money, second is percentage of the market)
MARVEL COMICS 39.78% 44.79%
DC COMICS 31.26% 34.18%
1 1 357.61 CIVIL WAR #6 (Of 7)* $2.99 MAR
2 4 173.40 CIVIL WAR RETURN* $2.99 MAR
3 2 159.48 WOLVERINE #50* $3.99 MAR
4 5 158.35 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #537 CW $2.99 MAR
5 3 149.08 ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #104* $3.99 MAR
6 10 144.96 52 WEEK #35 $2.50 DC
7 6 137.65 CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE #10 (Of 11) $2.99 MAR
8 7 136.28 ALL STAR SUPERMAN #6 $2.99 DC
9 8 135.01 WOLVERINE ORIGINS #10* $2.99 MAR
10 16 133.54 52 WEEK #36 $2.50 DC
All of the top five sellers are Marvel comics, seven out of the top ten are marvel. 😕
I think that explains the bias, Marvel just sell more comics, the more they sell the more fans they have. simple.
Originally posted by "V"
Never meant like that. I meant unflawed, uber boy scoutish. It bores me to be honest. I don't have anything against the character, I'm just rather disinterested.http://www.newsarama.com/marketreport/jan07sales.html
(First is money, second is percentage of the market)
MARVEL COMICS 39.78% 44.79%
DC COMICS 31.26% 34.18%1 1 357.61 CIVIL WAR #6 (Of 7)* $2.99 MAR
2 4 173.40 CIVIL WAR RETURN* $2.99 MAR
3 2 159.48 WOLVERINE #50* $3.99 MAR
4 5 158.35 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #537 CW $2.99 MAR
5 3 149.08 ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #104* $3.99 MAR
6 10 144.96 52 WEEK #35 $2.50 DC
7 6 137.65 CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE #10 (Of 11) $2.99 MAR
8 7 136.28 ALL STAR SUPERMAN #6 $2.99 DC
9 8 135.01 WOLVERINE ORIGINS #10* $2.99 MAR
10 16 133.54 52 WEEK #36 $2.50 DCAll of the top five sellers are Marvel comics, seven out of the top ten are marvel. 😕
I think that explains the bias, Marvel just sell more comics, the more they sell the more fans they have. simple.
Top two are events though and boun to sell very highly that's interesting 52 is weekly yet for the whole month only number 35 is mentioned. Why?
Originally posted by "V"
Never meant like that. I meant unflawed, uber boy scoutish. It bores me to be honest. I don't have anything against the character, I'm just rather disinterested.
given his powers, he feels a responsibility to exercise complete control... i don't see that as a negative... it doesnt mean he's not flawed, or a boy scout... doing the right thing and being careful means he's a boy scout?
http://www.newsarama.com/marketreport/jan07sales.html(First is money, second is percentage of the market)
MARVEL COMICS 39.78% 44.79%
DC COMICS 31.26% 34.18%1 1 357.61 CIVIL WAR #6 (Of 7)* $2.99 MAR
2 4 173.40 CIVIL WAR RETURN* $2.99 MAR
3 2 159.48 WOLVERINE #50* $3.99 MAR
4 5 158.35 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #537 CW $2.99 MAR
5 3 149.08 ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #104* $3.99 MAR
6 10 144.96 52 WEEK #35 $2.50 DC
7 6 137.65 CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE #10 (Of 11) $2.99 MAR
8 7 136.28 ALL STAR SUPERMAN #6 $2.99 DC
9 8 135.01 WOLVERINE ORIGINS #10* $2.99 MAR
10 16 133.54 52 WEEK #36 $2.50 DCAll of the top five sellers are Marvel comics, seven out of the top ten are marvel. 😕
I think that explains the bias, Marvel just sell more comics, the more they sell the more fans they have. simple.
amazing how many of those are civil war comics... dc had a decent sales surge during IC, once civil war is over, what then?
and there's the whole wolverine thing... at its worst, dc has never gone to the depths marvel has in whoring out a character...
Originally posted by Garfield Cat
Top two are events though and boun to sell very highly that's interesting 52 is weekly yet for the whole month only number 35 is mentioned. Why?
Because it was outsold pretty badly, DC kinda got raped this month to be honest, it's not THIS bad normally. I think 10-20 is split 5/5 though, probably 52 in the top twenty.
It just shows you though, 52 is getting quite battered this month but it's just because Civil war is reaching its peak. Marvel won't have so many in the top ten after presumably.
Originally posted by pr1983
given his powers, he feels a responsibility to exercise complete control... i don't see that as a negative... it doesnt mean he's not flawed, or a boy scout... doing the right thing and being careful means he's a boy scout?amazing how many of those are civil war comics... dc had a decent sales surge during IC, once civil war is over, what then?
and there's the whole wolverine thing... at its worst, dc has never gone to the depths marvel has in whoring out a character...
Again, I agree with you totally.
Originally posted by pr1983
given his powers, he feels a responsibility to exercise complete control... i don't see that as a negative... it doesnt mean he's not flawed, or a boy scout... doing the right thing and being careful means he's a boy scout?amazing how many of those are civil war comics... dc had a decent sales surge during IC, once civil war is over, what then?
and there's the whole wolverine thing... at its worst, dc has never gone to the depths marvel has in whoring out a character...
No, I just think he's a boyscout. Get over it, it's not a bad thing I just don't find it interesting to be honest.
You act like DC doesn't have it's own event getting sold at the moment, so don't try and act like the only reason marvel is winning is because of their event. Seeing as both companies are having one at the moment.
Once 52 is over what then?
I'm coming off very Marvel biased here, I'm not though, I'm just saying it as I see it.
Batman and Superman are arguably just as whored out argueably.
Originally posted by "V"
No, I just think he's a boyscout. Get over it, it's not a bad thing I just don't find it interesting to be honest.You act like DC doesn't have it's own event getting sold at the moment, so don't try and act like the only reason marvel is winning is because of their event. Seeing as both companies are having one at the moment.
Once 52 is over what then?
I'm coming off very Marvel biased here, I'm not though, I'm just saying it as I see it.
Batman and Superman are arguably just as whored out argueably.
You do appear just another Marvel fanboy like so many on this site.
Originally posted by "V"
No, I just think he's a boyscout. Get over it, it's not a bad thing I just don't find it interesting to be honest.You act like DC doesn't have it's own event getting sold at the moment, so don't try and act like the only reason marvel is winning is because of their event. Seeing as both companies are having one at the moment.
Once 52 is over what then?
I'm coming off very Marvel biased here, I'm not though, I'm just saying it as I see it.
Batman and Superman are arguably just as whored out argueably.
But you equated being unflawed to being a boyscout... i'm just curious as to why is all... 😬
52 isn't as big an event as civil war is, i don't think even DC would assume it was... so yes, the reason marvel have such a huge majority is because of their big event... DC's was IC, 52 is a novel idea, but its not a big event is it?
i thought World War 3 was the next DC event...
And while bats and supes do appear alot, i don't see them as being anywhere near as badly exploited as Wolverine is...
Originally posted by Garfield Cat
You do appear just another Marvel fanboy like so many on this site.
Do I really? that's funny, a good percentage of the books I read are DC. Either way I don't really mind, there isn't anybody on this comic forum you couldn't classify as either DC or Marvel. Everyone has a preference.
Originally posted by "V"
Do I really? that's funny, a good percentage of the books I read are DC. Either way I don't really mind, there isn't anybody on this comic forum you couldn't classify as either DC or Marvel. Everyone has a preference.
I don't know the forum well enough to say. I read al sorts and not just Marvel and DC. I just read the Darkness Omnibus. Not that great.
Originally posted by pr1983
But you equated being unflawed to being a boyscout... i'm just curious as to why is all... 😬52 isn't as big an event as civil war is, i don't think even DC would assume it was... so yes, the reason marvel have such a huge majority is because of their big event... DC's was IC, 52 is a novel idea, but its not a big event is it?
World War 3 is the next DC big event isn't it?
And while bats and supes do appear alot, i don't see them as being anywhere near as badly exploited as Wolverine is...
No, I said he was boyscoutish and unflawed I never meant to link the two.
52 isn't as big an event as Civil War? How many civil war books/tie ins have their been? I'm not sure. But seeing as 3 out of the 7 top Marvel titles were Civil War I don't see how it's too reliant.
Wolverine, AMS and USM would still have outsold 52. That just shows you it's not THAT reliant upon it, 52 is an event the last time I checked 😕 just because it's weekly doesnt mean it isnt.
WW3 is yeah, I'm actually looking forward to that, Ostranger is on board for a suicide squad mini right? Sigh me up for that.
I agree, they aren't whored out AS badly. But DC isn't innocent of whoring out their characters either. Only point i'm making.