Originally posted by Grimm22Did you see Sasquatches fight with Jobbernaut? He was begging Juggy to hold up a second while he caught his breath, then Juggy sent him for a ride. If I remember right Sasquatch had to have help from somebody to draw Juggies attention away from him so he could catch his breath.
They have fought before and they pretty even, but Ben only was able to fight on Walter's level because of his will-powerI would give Sasquatch the majority over Ben, about 7/10
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Did you see Sasquatches fight with Jobbernaut? He was begging Juggy to hold up a second while he caught his breath, then Juggy sent him for a ride. If I remember right Sasquatch had to have help from somebody to draw Juggies attention away from him so he could catch his breath.
Classic Juggernaut?
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Colossus has no prep and is fully healed for each battle,which takes place on a giant Batdude's stomach1.Longshot
2.Beast
3.Spiderman(No webs)
4.Cable and Deadpool(No Powers bar healing)
5.Thing
6.Sasquatch(No Elder god)
7.Thunderstrike(With mace)
8.White Martian(No power bar Durability and strength)
9.Wonder Woman(No equipment,Flight,Speed or Godwave)
10.Supreman(Only Strenght,for this fight Colossus has his Ultimate incarnations Strength added to his own)How far does he get?
Probably 6 i'd say...
One could point out those claws cut Thanos...Colossus > Thanos.?
Thanos weakened himself. He basicly said he lowered his own physical stats with the IG. And people say that if Thanos was prepared for the strike it wouldn't have done nothing as Thanos has complitely molecular control over his body. Did the scratch do anything to him? nope
Except the fight with Classic Juggernaut was full of PIS and CIS. Ben wasn't fighting as he typically does.
Doesn't chance the fact that Thing got owned in 3 blows, and could not do anything about it.
And Glads power varies on his confidence. He beat the hell out of the entire FF so I'm guessing he was pretty confident. Can you prove he wasn't more confident , and thus more powerful, in that encounter?
Can you prove he wasn't more confident when he fought Colossus? He was there for Dark Pheonix so I bet he was pretty ready & prepared for the fight. Can you prove he wasn't more confident in the Colossus fight?
One could also point out the crap Ben has done, like going through the Avengers line-up.
And, the line up consisted of?
Not that I know of.And Namor doesn't weigh 100 tons. But every physical state is amped when he's in it, hence how he can lift destroyers and such. Yet Ben forcibly removed him from the water.
What's there to keep namor attached to the water? Some macigal bond? I think not. How many times has Thing got his ass handed to him by Namor. Many times.
What's there to put Thing above Colossus? Besides, Mungi's Sasquatch owns Thing or Colossus 🙂
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Cue King_Mungi...
I already had this debate with him, he doesn't like facts and scans.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Did you see Sasquatches fight with Jobbernaut? He was begging Juggy to hold up a second while he caught his breath, then Juggy sent him for a ride. If I remember right Sasquatch had to have help from somebody to draw Juggies attention away from him so he could catch his breath.
Sad, no Sasquatch was not begging and notice the fact it was SASQUATCH's hit that caused the huge crater. Not Jugz, so why would Sasquatch even be hurt? Also did you see who looked the worse at the end of the fight? Sasquatch was fine, Jugz face was a mess. Also badly written as Snowbird can't be the in States due to mystical spell, but she was there, Guardian has a shield and what Northstar did would not depower him as he generates the power internally. I guess you have to have some knowledge about characters to actually know it was meant to make X-Men in a good light. Plus the fact current Jugz got annihilated by the Wrecking Crew, and in Omega Flight #1, Sasquatch ko'es Wrecker and Thunderball with one hit and rumor is he is going to kill the whole team.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
No the current weak Juggernaut. He's around 80 tons level or so.
Incorrect, even as stated in the handbooks current Jugz is still class 100
Originally posted by Jyppe
Besides, Mungi's Sasquatch owns Thing or Colossus 🙂
I didn't make him up, all I have said is on-panel feats.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Sad, no Sasquatch was not begging and notice the fact it was SASQUATCH's hit that caused the huge crater. Not Jugz, so why would Sasquatch even be hurt? Also did you see who looked the worse at the end of the fight? Sasquatch was fine, Jugz face was a mess. Also badly written as Snowbird can't be the in States due to mystical spell, but she was there, Guardian has a shield and what Northstar did would not depower him as he generates the power internally. I guess you have to have some knowledge about characters to actually know it was meant to make X-Men in a good light. Plus the fact current Jugz got annihilated by the Wrecking Crew, and in Omega Flight #1, Sasquatch ko'es Wrecker and Thunderball with one hit and rumor is he is going to kill the whole team.
Sure looked to me like they hit each other at the same time, and that's what caused the crater. And even then, Juggy was up and ready first. I don't really feel like arguing about this certain event too much, since we've already been here and done that. In addition, Sasquatch has a stronger healing factor than current Juggernaut. That's why he didn't look messed up at the end of the fight. In my opinion of that fight, Juggernaut beat Sasqautch one-on-one.
Originally posted by Grimm22
Classic Juggernaut?
Nope. Current.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
No the current weak Juggernaut. He's around 80 tons level or so.
Current Juggernaut is still class 100 in strength. It's just no longer limitless like it used to be.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Thing>Sasquatch & Colossus.
Hah. I'd say I hope you are kidding, but I know you aren't. So it'd just be a waste of time.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Sure looked to me like they hit each other at the same time, and that's what caused the crater. And even then, Juggy was up and ready first. I don't really feel like arguing about this certain event too much, since we've already been here and done that. In addition, Sasquatch has a stronger healing factor than current Juggernaut. That's why he didn't look messed up at the end of the fight. In my opinion of that fight, Juggernaut beat Sasqautch one-on-one.
That's not what was shown and not even an extra sound txt to indicate that. So what? Sasquatch paused but up his guard and told Jugz to hold up a second then when his guard was down he clocked him. Wow, have we ever seen Sasquatch ever do that? NEVER, even against people vastly I mean vastly stronger than Sasquatch and Cain. Bad writing. Except he had NO damage, while Cain's face looked like it was falling off...literally. You would be wrong, since a) fight ended with Sammy getting in the way when they were going for shot for shot b) If you actually believe that was a non-jobbing Walter. So if Walter can go 30 minutes against the Savage Hulk with no physical damage either, it makes sense Cain did what he did? 🙄 Bad writing. It was the Draco ark for goodness sake.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
That's not what was shown and not even an extra sound txt to indicate that. So what? Sasquatch paused but up his guard and told Jugz to hold up a second then when his guard was down he clocked him. Wow, have we ever seen Sasquatch ever do that? NEVER, even against people vastly I mean vastly stronger than Sasquatch and Cain. Bad writing. Except he had NO damage, while Cain's face looked like it was falling off...literally. You would be wrong, since a) fight ended with Sammy getting in the way when they were going for shot for shot b) If you actually believe that was a non-jobbing Walter. So if Walter can go 30 minutes against the Savage Hulk with no physical damage either, it makes sense Cain did what he did? 🙄 Bad writing. It was the Draco ark for goodness sake.
I thought it was right before the draco ark.
anyway it was PIS one basic reason, Sasquatch was taken to the limit which should have made the elder God strength come out and smash jobbernaut. (oh and Sasquatch was pretty beaten up, at one point his cheek was swallon and he was bleeding, but it seemed to heal by the end of the book)
Originally posted by jasofisc
I thought it was right before the draco ark.anyway it was PIS one basic reason, Sasquatch was taken to the limit which should have made the elder God strength come out and smash jobbernaut. (oh and Sasquatch was pretty beaten up, at one point his cheek was swallon and he was bleeding, but it seemed to heal by the end of the book)
Right before, and then after they clashed again in the Draco ark which was filled with even worse PIS 🙁
Sasquatch has got knocked around by people vastly above him and Juggernaut and he had no physical damage there. Even without using Elder God strength, Sasquatch tossed 250 tons 1000 feet...with ease, draged and lifted out of the water a fully equipped destroyer, caught a 6 story apartment building from falling over. He's a beat even without Tanaraq amping him up.
Originally posted by King_MungiWow talk about a biased view of the fight. Juggy and Sasquatch both hit each other at the same time. It wasn't Sasquatch that did all of that. 😂 I swear everytime Sasquatch gets his @ss kicked you start crying PIS or bad-writing or some crap about Tanaraq that we never see. Post the fight so people can see Juggy had Walter begging for mercy and had to have outside help to draw Juggies attention from him. Vindicator knew Sasquatch was in some serious trouble. He learned his lesson from that fight that he actually put on Hulk-buster armor in the rematch for a reason.
I already had this debate with him, he doesn't like facts and scans.Sad, no Sasquatch was not begging and notice the fact it was SASQUATCH's hit that caused the huge crater. Not Jugz, so why would Sasquatch even be hurt? Also did you see who looked the worse at the end of the fight? Sasquatch was fine, Jugz face was a mess. Also badly written as Snowbird can't be the in States due to mystical spell, but she was there, Guardian has a shield and what Northstar did would not depower him as he generates the power internally. I guess you have to have some knowledge about characters to actually know it was meant to make X-Men in a good light. Plus the fact current Jugz got annihilated by the Wrecking Crew, and in Omega Flight #1, Sasquatch ko'es Wrecker and Thunderball with one hit and rumor is he is going to kill the whole team.
Incorrect, even as stated in the handbooks current Jugz is still class 100
I didn't make him up, all I have said is on-panel feats.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Wow talk about a biased view of the fight. Juggy and Sasquatch both hit each other at the same time. It wasn't Sasquatch that did all of that. 😂 I swear everytime Sasquatch gets his @ss kicked you start crying PIS or bad-writing or some crap about Tanaraq that we never see. Post the fight so people can see Juggy had Walter begging for mercy and had to have outside help to draw Juggies attention from him. Vindicator knew Sasquatch was in some serious trouble. He learned his lesson from that fight that he actually put on Hulk-buster armor in the rematch for a reason.
Oh? that's not what is shown now is it? Never saw? Uhhh...your an idiot, I already showed you scans of Tanaraq even members in this thread have mentioned Tanaraq. As I mentioned after the hit, Sasquatch lowered his guard and Jugz hit him. Then a pissed off Sasquatch later charged at Jugz and they went shot for shot. Once again since you avoided it, who looked worse? I already posted it in the Sasquatch Respect thread. Right so going against the Savage Hulk for over 30 minutes when he didn't want to fight, but 5 minutes against the depowered Juggernaut is to much? Oh my. You call me biased? Even Grimm22 a HUGE advocate for Thing on this board, knows what Sasquatch can do.
Originally posted by King_MungiHey thanks for calling me a idiot for voicing my views. That's real cool.
Oh? that's not what is shown now is it? Never saw? Uhhh...your an idiot, I already showed you scans of Tanaraq even members in this thread have mentioned Tanaraq. As I mentioned after the hit, Sasquatch lowered his guard and Jugz hit him. Then a pissed off Sasquatch later charged at Jugz and they went shot for shot. Once again since you avoided it, who looked worse? I already posted it in the Sasquatch Respect thread. Right so going against the Savage Hulk for over 30 minutes when he didn't want to fight, but 5 minutes against the depowered Juggernaut is to much? Oh my. You call me biased? Even Grimm22 a HUGE advocate for Thing on this board, knows what Sasquatch can do.
Show scans of the fight so people can see here. Sasquatch was in trouble and Vindicator knew it.
Sasquatch fought Hulk, but Sasquatches own words he says the Hulk kicked his @ss. That's cannon.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Hey thanks for calling me a idiot for voicing my views. That's real cool.Show scans of the fight so people can see here. Sasquatch was in trouble and Vindicator knew it.
Sasquatch fought Hulk, but Sasquatches own words he says the Hulk kicked his @ss. That's cannon.
Oh? uninformed conjucture which you claim as fact is a logical view point? Uh huh.
*points to respect thread*
Uh huh, and we clearly saw the fight he didn't and in the fight he even says he didn't even want to fight as he felt he was the real monster. Uh huh....