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SMP wouldn't want that. he wants his universe back.

And you're ASSUMING he wants mxy to make his universe again.

Nice.

Thanks. hater. mxy is multiversal at the least.

Nothing canon says this.

No, World's Funnest isn't canon.

And for the record, the 2nd joker used his powers to bind the spectre, he was beyond universe. Try again. you fail with misery.

Pretty sure that was Hal as Spectre and it was when he ha didn't have all of the Spectre's power.

I know Juntai has shown you how Spectre wasn't outright overpowered there.

And no, Spectre isn't always a multiversal power.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
And you're ASSUMING he wants mxy to make his universe again.

Nice.

Nothing canon says this.

No, World's Funnest isn't canon.

Pretty sure that was Hal as Spectre and it was when he ha didn't have all of the Spectre's power.

I know Juntai has shown you how Spectre wasn't outright overpowered there.

And no, Spectre isn't always a multiversal power.

Read Mxy's respect thread, Galan proved WF was canon.

2nd, Hal Jordan was probably among the more powerful Spectre's. And he himself said that he could not act without destroying everything. And Spectre's power is dependent on what the presence gives him, but nothing less than multiversal is going to seriously faze him,

Read Mxy's respect thread, Galan proved WF was canon.

Read it. Not proven.

2nd, Hal Jordan was probably among the more powerful Spectre's. And he himself said that he could not act without destroying everything. And Spectre's power is dependent on what the presence gives him, but nothing less than multiversal is going to seriously faze him,

There was a period of time when Hal did not have all of the Spectre's power.

I believe the Emperor Joker arc was during this period.

And if World's Funnest is canon and you can bitchslap the Spectre that easy, then the Wrath of God is even lamer.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
And if World's Funnest is canon and you can bitchslap the Spectre that easy, then the Wrath of God is even lamer.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
And if World's Funnest is canon and you can bitchslap the Spectre that easy, then the Wrath of God is even lamer.

No lamer than The "omnipotent and Omnicient" Lt not being able to fix a universal flaw, or being pwned by a human being. and an alternate reed at that. not even the smartest one.

Fix the universal flow?

Spectre was KO'ed by a planet, IIRC.

And LT can replace universes at a will or just cut them off entirely.

You are a such a dc hater it's rediculous and funny at the same time. There is only one mxy. as proven by the fact that SMP grabs the one from the ONLY fifth dimension. If there were more, he could have grabbed any. The story in world's funnest happened, thus it is cannon. on top of the fact that it's an elseworld's story. But guess what? The story happens in EVERY reality. hah. You hve been pwned.

Elsewords aren't WHat Ifs.

What Ifs are confirmed to all happen in alternate universes.

Only ONE Elseworld, KC, is an alternate universe.

World's Funnest is just a joke story and not in continuity. As are all other Elseworlds except Kingdom Come.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Elsewords aren't WHat Ifs.

What Ifs are confirmed to all happen in alternate universes.

Only ONE Elseworld, KC, is an alternate universe.

Red Son
Gotham by Gaslight
Batman and Dracula
JSA: The Liberty Files
Justice Riders
Wonder Woman: Amazonia
Batman: In Darkest Knight

Those are also alternate realities in the mainstream DC Multiverse.

Originally posted by Rorschach
Red Son
Gotham by Gaslight
Batman and Dracula
JSA: The Liberty Files
Justice Riders
Wonder Woman: Amazonia
Batman: In Darkest Knight

Those are also alternate realities in the mainstream DC Multiverse.

Red Son
Gotham by Gaslight
Batman and Dracula
JSA: The Liberty Files
Justice Riders
Wonder Woman: Amazonia
Batman: In Darkest Knight

Those are also alternate realities in the mainstream DC Multiverse.

And as I've said in the past on the topic of Kingdom Come, the ONLY reason KC or the ones you listed are cnon because they were acknowledged as such.

ALL What Ifs happen in an alternate reality.

SOME Elseworlds are considered alternate realities and canon because they are given numbers and a place in the new 52-universe multiverse.

But what about the dozens upon dozens of other Elseworlds that aren't acknowledged and can't be canon because there's too many to fit into the 52 universe idea?

So, I repeat as I've said several times, why shoudl be consider an Elseworld canon if it hasn't been acknowledged as one of the few selected canon ones?

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
And as I've said in the past on the topic of Kingdom Come, the ONLY reason KC or the ones you listed are cnon because they were acknowledged as such.

ALL What Ifs happen in an alternate reality.

SOME Elseworlds are considered alternate realities and canon because they are given numbers and a place in the new 52-universe multiverse.

But what about the dozens upon dozens of other Elseworlds that aren't acknowledged and can't be canon because there's too many to fit into the 52 universe idea?

So, I repeat as I've said several times, why shoudl be consider an Elseworld canon if it hasn't been acknowledged as one of the few selected canon ones?

Just because it's not part of the 52 currently, doesn't mean it didn't exist beforehand. This is pure spite against DC and Mxy. 👇

No it isn't.

He may be a douche, but he brings up a valid point; is every elseworld's canon because a select few are?

That doesn't sound too logical to me. 😬.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Just because it's not part of the 52 currently, doesn't mean it didn't exist beforehand. This is pure spite against DC and Mxy. 👇

Originally posted by Soljer
He may be a douche, but he brings up a valid point; is every elseworld's canon because a select few are?

That doesn't sound too logical to me. 😬.

In my eyes, that's flawed logic. srug

Originally posted by Soljer
No it isn't.

He may be a douche, but he brings up a valid point; is every elseworld's canon because a select few are?

That doesn't sound too logical to me. 😬.

Well it's purely simple. Let me explain it to you. World's funnest happened at what time in DC history exactly? You can't tell us. We do know that Mxy destroyed everything before the crisis happened. he also put everything back in that story. We know that the infinite universes don't exist any more becuz of the crisis, but we know the 5th wasn't affected at all. Which means mxy literally could have did the entire feat a second before the Am showed up, or a hundred years after. He was literally bouncing not only from multiverse to multiverse, but also from time period to time period. We also know that Hypertime did exist or does exist. Just becuz IC happened does not retcon out hypertime. It may have only destroyed hypertime in it's former existance. There was no official retcon of hypertime. Only of the size of the multiverse. It should be noted that hypertime was still mentioned in 52. And according to hypertime, EVERY elseworld's story IS cannon. So anyway you look at it, the story happened. What nikk is trying to do is say something like crisis stories never happened. Well we know they did even if COIE destroyed them. We all know that IC somehow ****ed hypertime's original scope, but it was never retconned as never happening, thus every else world's story did happen and is cannon unless DC officially comes out and says that they never happened. That hasn't happened and likely won't since grant morrison is the creater of hypertime with mark waid, and guess who's in charge of final countdown? yup, you guessed it. Grant morrison.

I could really care less whether or not WF is canonical -- but what I do disagree with, is picking and choosing which titles from the same company are in canon, and which are not -- seemingly based solely on personal opinion, [referring to Nikk].

I never chose anything. DC chose which Elseworlds are canon alternate realities.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Read Mxy's respect thread, Galan proved WF was canon.

2nd, Hal Jordan was probably among the more powerful Spectre's. And he himself said that he could not act without destroying everything. And Spectre's power is dependent on what the presence gives him, but nothing less than multiversal is going to seriously faze him,

what about the Trans? They were not multiversal, and they killed him.
JLA/Spectre: Soul War, issue 2.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Read Mxy's respect thread, Galan proved WF was canon.

2nd, Hal Jordan was probably among the more powerful Spectre's. And he himself said that he could not act without destroying everything. And Spectre's power is dependent on what the presence gives him, but nothing less than multiversal is going to seriously faze him,

Originally posted by Bransolute
So... nothing less than multiversal will faze him, but he can be knocked out by a planet getting bashed over his head?