Wolverine vs Silver Surfer H2H

Originally posted by darthgoober
So we never actually saw whether or not Surfer was KO'd as the fight was interrupted?

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
silver surfer is fighting as if he didnt have the power cosmic though, which is what he usually uses to amp his natural strengt hand speed, without the power cosmic his strength and speed arent super human I dont believe

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
silver surfer is fighting as if he didnt have the power cosmic though, which is what he usually uses to amp his natural strengt hand speed, without the power cosmic his strength and speed arent super human I dont believe

Originally posted by darthgoober
His speed/reflexes are allowed and you'd be hard pressed to prove that Surfer was amping his speed in any particular instance anyway.

Originally posted by kgkg
-.- a drained de-powerd SS was going head to head with Classic Abom 😉 and beat him

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
was he completely depowered? as in he no longer had the power cosmic?

The OP says 'Ok, Surfer doesn't get his board, his blasts, telepathy, or amping.'

Surfer stills has the Power Cosmic. He just can't amp/shoot energy blasts, etc.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
no, I was saying a depowered silver surfer can't amp himself meaning his speed and reflexes wouldnt be above peak-human

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
was he completely depowered? as in he no longer had the power cosmic?

Originally posted by darthgoober
What makes you think he's only peak human speed without amping? I've never seen anything to suggest such a thing and I've read and have nearly everything Surfer's ever been in.

What suggests that he's even peak human without the PC?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
What suggests that he's even peak human without the PC?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
What suggests that he's even peak human without the PC?

He was cut off from the Power Cosmic by the obedience disk in Planet Hulk and still managed to completely trash the Warbound (scans are in page 2 of this thread) for one. He was not only cut off from the PC then, but severely weakened.

That's a recent example. And then there's the Abomination example.

Surfer for the humiliating win.

Originally posted by darthgoober
First you say it's dependant on MA and now you say it's dependant on running speed 😂 way to try to dodge your own argument.

Does Wolverine move faster than an energy blast or not? For that matter, does Wolverine move faster than Nova or even Spiderman?

Energy blast=MA skill and h2h speed?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Energy blast=MA skill and h2h speed?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Does Wolverine move faster than an energy blast or not? For that matter, does Wolverine move faster than Nova or even Spiderman?

His hand speed is much faster than Wolverine's. Most probably his MA skill is less than Wolverine's.

This thread needs to be closed for spite. anybody that thinks wolverine stands a chance needs to have their head examined. Wolvie wont even be able to cut SS.

Originally posted by Enyalus
The OP says 'Ok, Surfer doesn't get his board, his blasts, telepathy, or amping.'

Surfer stills has the Power Cosmic. He just can't amp/shoot energy blasts, etc.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
oh, but doesnt he use the power cosmic to AMP his speed and strength?

Kind of. He's got his base speed and strength, which have been shown to be tremendously high (The Warbound feat, beating Abomination) - and then he can use the Power Cosmic to amp his strength to even higher levels.

Similar to Hulk's base power, and then Hulk getting angrier.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
oh, but doesnt he use the power cosmic to AMP his speed and strength?

Strengthwise, surfer has been able to go toe to toe with savage hulk without any specific mention of him amping. Sure he can amp his strength to higher levels with his PC but dat does not mean he is around human level if he does not specifically do this.

still connected to the power cosmic? = check.

logan can't win.