Wolverine vs Silver Surfer H2H

Started by The Great Galen5 pages
Originally posted by darthgoober

So dodging=MA ability and h2h speed.....

Last I checked, repeated dodging was an aspect of most martial arts.

On the flip side of that, what is superior MA going to matter when - as shown - Surfer can simply dodge everything?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So dodging=MA ability and h2h speed.....

Dodging, ducking, AND blocking with his bare hand combined with decent h2h showings on more than one occasion... I'd say so.

Now is Wolverine faster than current Nova or even Spiderman?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Kind of. He's got his base speed and strength, which have been shown to be tremendously high (The Warbound feat, beating Abomination) - and then he can use the Power Cosmic to amp his strength to even higher levels.

Similar to Hulk's base power, and then Hulk getting angrier.

I didnt get any hulk prior to world war hulk so was the device stated to negate his power cosmic?

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
I didnt get any hulk prior to world war hulk so was the device stated to negate his power cosmic?

Yes, the obedience disk was stated to cut him off from the Power Cosmic. He was also weakened due to the nature of crashing on Sakaar. Priest posted scans from his fight with the Warbound on page 2, which includes him grappling with Hulk H2H and managed to shove him backwards into the wall.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Last I checked, repeated dodging was an aspect of most martial arts.

On the flip side of that, what is superior MA going to matter when - as shown - Surfer can simply dodge everything?

Really...gues thanos was just hitting air and did a phantom KO in 6 punches..but then again Thanos isnt a brick and was punching 2 millions times FTL LOL. What you're neglecting to mention is that slipping away from attacks in the context of MA is a specialty that requires training and a very specific dicipline. Would you assume that tenis players who routinly react/deflect 100+ mph tenis balls can just step into a boxing ring agaisnt the WHC and effortlessly avoid all his punches?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Dodging, ducking, AND blocking with his bare hand combined with decent h2h showings on more than one occasion... I'd say so.

Now is Wolverine faster than current Nova or even Spiderman?

lol, so you're basing his MA ability off showings that are easily replicated to greater effect by a laundry list of characters...SS's MA ability is about as underwhealming as you can get.

oh brother.....

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Would you assume that tenis players who routinly react/deflect 100+ mph tenis balls can just step into a boxing ring agaisnt the WHC and effortlessly avoid all his punches?

If they're 60 ft. apart like they are on a tennis court - yes.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
lol, so you're basing his MA ability off showings that are easily replicated to greater effect by a laundry list of characters...SS's MA ability is about as underwhealming as you can get.

Let me make this easy: SS doesn't have many martial arts skills. What is your point?

SS uses his cosmic awareness and learns every martial art in the universe.

Originally posted by Mindset
SS uses his cosmic awareness and learns every martial art in the universe.

Oh, I like you. High five.

Originally posted by Enyalus
If they're 60 ft. apart like they are on a tennis court - yes.

Let me make this easy: SS doesn't have many martial arts skills. What is your point?

That wasnt the question, were not talking about 60ft away, we are talking about a very specific enviromental enclosure with very strict rules. On another note...of course MA ability matters in a h2h fight lol.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
That wasnt the question, were not talking about 60ft away, we are talking about a very specific enviromental enclosure with very strict rules. On another note...of course MA ability matters in a h2h fight lol.

Actually, if u cant hurt ur opponent it does not.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
That wasnt the question, were not talking about 60ft away, we are talking about a very specific enviromental enclosure with very strict rules. On another note...of course MA ability matters in a h2h fight lol.

Your example doesn't equivocate. They redirect 100 mph tennis balls with 60 or so feet of distance between them. Boxers dodge punches going much slower from two to three feet away at the most.

And no, MA ability really doesn't matter when you cannot hit your opponent for one, and two you cannot even hurt your opponent if you do land a blow or two.

SS wins this one with ease.

Originally posted by Mindset
SS uses his cosmic awareness and learns every martial art in the universe.
he cant amp himself

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yes, the obedience disk was stated to cut him off from the Power Cosmic. He was also weakened due to the nature of crashing on Sakaar. Priest posted scans from his fight with the Warbound on page 2, which includes him grappling with Hulk H2H and managed to shove him backwards into the wall.
oh...how was he charging those weapons then or were the weapons able to do that?

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
oh...how was he charging those weapons then or were the weapons able to do that?

No idea. Maybe they were able to do that on their own.