Well maybe he'd know more than the others about issues such as that, but when I was originally arguing the point, I was more referring to the way he used to fight and such, and not whether he'd have a psychological edge or anything. And really, I don't see how Vader's much better than Anakin when it comes to recklessness, it's not like he was the calmest and most clever fighter either, he was actually pretty reckless himself.
Originally posted by allfgVader being as reckless as anakin ? Sorry friend the EU and highest form of canon proves you wrong
Well maybe he'd know more than the others about issues such as that, but when I was originally arguing the point, I was more referring to the way he used to fight and such, and not whether he'd have a psychological edge or anything. And really, I don't see how Vader's much better than Anakin when it comes to recklessness, it's not like he was the calmest and most clever fighter either, he was actually pretty reckless himself.
Originally posted by allfgSorry friend , according to what you are so fond of speaking about. Higher canon overwrites the eu, so that means the movies disprove what you said tsk tsk tsk just when will you stop getting pwned
Sorry friend, his fight with the Maul poser proves you wrong.
o yea and that "recklass" behaviour was an isolated case, Just how many times did he behave recklass throughout his life as a cyborg? Movies disproves you, novels disprove you, RODV disproves you and the EU disproves you
Vader has enough overall skill, knowledge of Anakins forms and fighting styles, and a big enough psychological advantage to beat Anakin in a duel where, he has a terrain advantage (such as on Mustafar, a hilly or rocky area, Kamino platforms, etc). However, in a closed off space, Anakin wins in a straight up duel (like the duel with Dooku).
Originally posted by Kadesh
Sorry friend , according to what you are so fond of speaking about. Higher canon overwrites the eu, so that means the movies disprove what you said tsk tsk tsk just when will you stop getting pwnedo yea and that "recklass" behaviour was an isolated case, Just how many times did he behave recklass throughout his life as a cyborg? Movies disproves you, novels disprove you, RODV disproves you and the EU disproves you
Kadesh, there's a reason why you have to be at least 13 years to post on these boards, and it's when 6 year olds such as yourself don't know what they're talking about. Movies only overwrite EU when a contradiction occurs, and the movies in no way contradict that Vader might possibly be reckless in such a situation like the one that he was in with Maul. Just because he doesn't show any reckless behavior in the movies (he probably does, I just can't be bothered to rewatch the movies to prove you wrong), it doesn't mean that he wouldn't if pushed to his limits by an actual skilled duelist, such as the Maul wanabee. The fact is, in the movies, he only ever fights old men and farmboys, and was never pushed to the point where reckless action would be necessary. I'm sure if Anakin were to fight OT Luke or Ben Kenobi, he wouldn't be pushed to pull off a reckless menouvre either like in his duel with Obi-Wan, but more likely he would curbstomp their asses in seconds.
You cant say he was reckless from what we don't see. Just how you said that Sidious couldn't be fast because he wasn't fast "on screen", and when it was said he could have been fast when we didn't see, you said that would be false...well same thing, you cant assume he is reckless during the periods that we don't get to see him, and Vader has never shown recklessness on screen or in and books I've read with him in them.
Originally posted by allfgSorry friend, its the same like saying "o vader is fast in the eu but it contradicts his slowness in the movies" as you are so keen to point out. Now its a different thing, its his recklessness. Anyways i wouldnt use the excuse of the movies to disprove what you said, i saw his fight with the dark woman, he was not recklass, and i seen many other fights with vader. That incident with maul is an isolated case.
Kadesh, there's a reason why you have to be at least 13 years to post on these boards, and it's when 6 year olds such as yourself don't know what they're talking about. Movies only overwrite EU when a contradiction occurs, and the movies in no way contradict that Vader might possibly be reckless in such a situation like the one that he was in with Maul.
Originally posted by allfgAnd just because of one incident where vader got recklass, it mans he would be recklass with all others? Sorry friend, though being recklass, vader still beat maul. And i have read RODV, vader was not being recklass with the fight against the jedi masters. The movies themselves proved vader is not being reckless and i reconmend you actually re-watch the OT because all it does is disproves what you said.The fact is, in the movies, he only ever fights old men and farmboys, and was never pushed to the point where reckless action would be necessary. I'm sure if Anakin were to fight OT Luke or Ben Kenobi, he wouldn't be pushed to pull off a reckless menouvre either like in his duel with Obi-Wan, but more likely he would curbstomp their asses in seconds.