Thor vs. Apacolypse

Originally posted by Soujaboy
He doesn't have to say it, it was made clear when he resorted to it. If he fealt that under his own power he could defeat Loki, then he would have never resorted to the tech in the first place.

Man = Apoc

god = Loki

When he says "mankind needs to become powerful enough to challenge the gods" he's included in that mankind part.

Also wjen Caliban says "master he is powerful, ad he is a god. if he chooses to destroy us how can humanity stand against him." Apoc did not oppose this statement, in fact he agreed with him. This alone makes it clear that Apoc is inferior to Loki.

When did opposing, and not being afraid of someone become an indicator of superior power?

Youre waisting your time. If he cant see this from the sources he has provided, which I see as clear as daylight,IMO youre never going to be able to change his perspective on this matter

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Apocalypse has always preferred using the Celestial tech in his ship, to, for example, in one way or another, end, or even (as odd as it sounds) start a battle.

So basically, without the sid of his tech Apoc is barely a threat at all. If he fealt that he was superior to Loki he would have never resorted outside help, however he did.

[QUOTE=8626503]Originally posted by Evil_Ash
That's pretty far fetched to go by.

And Apocalypse's goal isn't to make himself any more stronger, it's to make mankind it self stronger. He himself is not included in this part. He has never stated so.

How so? Apoc stated that mankind, a group which he belongs to, needs to become more powerful to oppose the gods.

[QUOTE=8626503]Originally posted by Evil_Ash
"Fact"? Did Apocalypse say he agreed with him?

He wen't on to say that they needed to become more powerful. Thats pretty clear to me.

[QUOTE=8626503]Originally posted by Evil_Ash
And Apocalypse has held his own against the High Evolutionary, and withstood a scream from Black Bolt. Apocalypse has also been battling Prime Eternal Ikaris and the Eternals over the centuries.

I don't see how Loki can be that much of a trouble for Apocalypse.[/B]

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Possibly because Loki is one of the most powerful sorcerers in comic. You may overrate Apoc, but the rest of us do not.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Apocalypse has always preferred using the Celestial tech in his ship, to, for example, in one way or another, end, or even (as odd as it sounds) start a battle.

So basically, without the sid of his tech Apoc is barely a threat at all. If he fealt that he was superior to Loki he would have never resorted outside help, however he did.

That's pretty far fetched to go by.

And Apocalypse's goal isn't to make himself any more stronger, it's to make mankind it self stronger. He himself is not included in this part. He has never stated so.

"Fact"? Did Apocalypse say he agreed with him?

He wen't on to say that they needed to become more powerful. Thats pretty clear to me.
Apocalypse has held his own against the High Evolutionary, and withstood a scream from Black Bolt. Apocalypse has also been battling Prime Eternal Ikaris and the Eternals over the centuries.

I don't see how Loki can be that much of a trouble for Apocalypse.[/B]

So basically, without the sid of his tech Apoc is barely a threat at all. If he fealt that he was superior to Loki he would have never resorted outside help, however he did.

How so? Apoc stated that mankind, a group which he belongs to, needs to become more powerful to oppose the gods.

He wen't on to say that they needed to become more powerful. Thats pretty clear to me.

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Possibly because Loki is one of the most powerful sorcerers in comic. You may overrate Apoc, but the rest of us do not.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
So basically, without the sid of his tech Apoc is barely a threat at all. If he fealt that he was superior to Loki he would have never resorted outside help, however he did.

How so? Apoc stated that mankind, a group which he belongs to, needs to become more powerful to oppose the gods.

He wen't on to say that they needed to become more powerful. Thats pretty clear to me.

🙄

Possibly because Loki is one of the most powerful sorcerers in comic. You may overrate Apoc, but the rest of us do not.

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
Youre waisting your time. If he cant see this from the sources he has provided, which I see as clear as daylight,IMO youre never going to be able to change his perspective on this matter

Originally posted by Soujaboy
How so? Apoc stated that mankind, a group which he belongs to, needs to become more powerful to oppose the gods.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
He wen't on to say that they needed to become more powerful. Thats pretty clear to me.

They? Apocalypse never referred to himself and Caliban. He said mankind.

Apocalypse has never equalled himself with mankind, in fact, he has rated himself above them.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
You may overrate Apoc, but the rest of us do not.

...I'm not overrating anyone. I'm simply following from what I come across with Apoc.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
They? Apocalypse never referred to himself and Caliban. He said mankind.

Apocalypse has never equalled himself with mankind, in fact, he has rated himself above them.

...I'm not overrating anyone. I'm simply following from what I come across with Apoc.

Apocalypse is a human, and a Synonym of human is mankind. he never excluded Caliban nor himself.

Yet he's still a human, superior but still man.

What you came across was Apoc ambushing Loki with his tech, which Loki easily escaped from. You labeled this as owning, when no such thing occurred.

Thor 10/10

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thor 10/10

Apocalypse 7/10

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Apocalypse 7/10

Trivial, and irrelevant as you've yet to produce one viable tactic for Apoc to take a win.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Trivial, and irrelevant as you've yet to produce one viable tactic for Apoc to take a win.

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I have been posting several kinds of tactics in this thread of how Apoc could win...

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
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I have been posting several kinds of tactics in this thread of how Apoc could win...

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
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I have been posting several kinds of tactics in this thread of how Apoc could win...

Which have all been countered and torn down.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Which have all been countered and torn down.

Not all of them.

And if Hulk can fight Thor, then I see now reason why Apoc can't.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Not all of them.

And if Hulk can fight Thor, then I see now reason why Apoc can't.

Yes, all of them. If you have more or want to bring a previous one up then we'll tear those down as well.

The only reason Hulk is able to battle Thor is because Thor engages Hulk in physical confrontations. This will not be a physical confrontation, and even if it is Thor will take the majority.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Yes, all of them. If you have more or want to bring a previous one up then we'll tear those down as well.

The only reason Hulk is able to battle Thor is because Thor engages Hulk in physical confrontations. This will not be a physical confrontation, and even if it is Thor will take the majority.

Apocalypse. He's stronger than Thor i think. And his powers are greater than the Hammer. A little lightning isn't gonna do more than make him smile.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Apocalypse. He's stronger than Thor i think. And his powers are greater than the Hammer.

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Originally posted by Wonder Man
Apocalypse. He's stronger than Thor i think. And his powers are greater than the Hammer. A little lightning isn't gonna do more than make him smile.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
😑 a little lighting?

I think he's talking about when Thor takes a piss. 313

bump

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
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So Celestial tech>Asgardian magic? interesting. In that case, definitely favor Apoc in this match.

Loki freed himself from that Celestial Tech if he did it so Can Thor. Thor FTW.