Thats well and good,but when you've forced your way into the Spectre's mind,had a will so strong that the combined minds of an entire planet can't affect you,mind-raped 2 omnipotent beings,read the minds of everyone on earth several times,liked every hero onm the planet several times and Turned the Joker sane whilst controlling every Villian on the planet,your not likely to be a mere "Class 10" Telepath.
Anyone who's ever mind raped Wolverine...this whole Level 10 Telepath thing originated from an Emma/Logan coversation. Emma has mind raped him on 3 occasions most recently in AXM and with ease. Meaning anyone who is Level 10 by passes it with ease....since it's designed to block out Level 9 TP's then I'd say they'll have a lot of trouble with it.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Anyone who's ever mind raped Wolverine...this whole Level 10 Telepath thing originated from an Emma/Logan coversation. Emma has mind raped him on 3 occasions most recently in AXM and with ease. Meaning anyone who is Level 10 by passes it with ease....since it's designed to block out Level 9 TP's then I'd say they'll have a lot of trouble with it.
Any ways the TP level 9 blocker was given to him in civil war he did not have it prior to that.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Thats well and good,but when you've forced your way into the Spectre's mind,had a will so strong that the combined minds of an entire planet can't affect you,mind-raped 2 omnipotent beings,read the minds of everyone on earth several times,liked every hero onm the planet several times and Turned the Joker sane whilst controlling every Villian on the planet,your not likely to be a mere "Class 10" Telepath.
Originally posted by capt it up
Wolverine did not have the level 9 TP before the civil war arch. Also she has only mind raped him in astonishing. It funny though how the writter of astonishing stated he has no idea how to write wolverine nor does he fully understand the character and yet the only times logan has been mind raped with ease is in astinishing x-men. Before that wolverine has always been a problem for telepaths such as jean and casandra nova an yet now all of a sudden he can easily be mind rape seem sorta odd does it not? That a writter who stated he has no idea how to write wolverine now all of a sudden has him easily being mind raped seem pritty wird to me though that may be due to my bias. Just food for thought.Any ways the TP level 9 blocker was given to him in civil war he did not have it prior to that.
Read that issue of Wolverine where he confronts Emma and Cyclops during Civil War...Wolvey mentions he has blockers courtesy of Xavier. Emma has also mind raped him in her first appearance UXM #129 I believe.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Read that issue of Wolverine where he confronts Emma and Cyclops during Civil War...Wolvey mentions he has blockers courtesy of Xavier. Emma has also mind raped him in her first appearance UXM #129 I believe.
ultimate x-men is not 616 so that does not matter.
it just odd that all of a sudden logan a guy known to being TP resistant gets mind raped easily when a new author who stated he has no idea how to write him takes over. It just seems odd maybe I am beeing silly here, but it just does not sit right.
Multiple writers using multiple telepaths over 20 years have shown him susceptible to telepathy.
Cassandra Nova was never depicted as even trying to control him. Cassandra Nova = Xavier > any telepathic resistance Wolverine may have.
Wolverine received psy-blocks courtesy of ordinary human Xavier, during Civil War? Yeah that makes sense.
UXM is Uncanny X-Men.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Multiple writers using multiple telepaths over 20 years have shown him susceptible to telepathy.Cassandra Nova was never depicted as even trying to control him. Cassandra Nova = Xavier > any telepathic resistance Wolverine may have.
Wolverine received psy-blocks courtesy of ordinary human Xavier, during Civil War? Yeah that makes sense.
UXM is Uncanny X-Men.
Actually she tried it in new x-men and he simply turned animal, actaully over the 20 years they have shown him to be extremely resistent to TP. The only real run that has shown him hm ever to be easily taken over by tp is astinishing. Most every other time he has been attack by TP the TP user has ton's of trouble trying to control him. Xavier is the only one that has ever shown to easily take enter his mind and take it over and even he doen ti once maybe twice. There may have been some rare ocassions of TP easily working however there are for more times were it did nto work or too lot of effort.
Occam's razor.
Originally posted by capt it upI've seen it. There's no indication of any telepathic attack. And even if he magically overcame a telepathic attack that was never depicted in the first place that would be PIS - Cassandra Nova does not only equal Xavier as his mummudrai she's ruthless and insane and therefore superior to Xavier.
oh uxm I thought they ment ultimate x-men.Actually she tried it in new x-men and he simply turned animal,
Other than this non-instance, there's what? That one instance by Jean trying to make him love Viper or something. Pft.
Originally posted by capt it upTelepaths don't need to control a mind to destroy it, besides.
actaully over the 20 years they have shown him to be extremely resistent to TP. The only real run that has shown him hm ever to be easily taken over by tp is astinishing. Most every other time he has been attack by TP the TP user has ton's of trou ble trying to control him. Xavier is the only one that has ever shown to easily take enter his mind and take it over and even he doen ti once maybe twice
Just a few instances off the top of my head.
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Not including any Astonishing X-Men. She can likely just make him orgasm to death.
There's never been a number level system for telepaths as far as I know. Single arbitrary statement, with no grounds.
My problems not with damaging him it with mind controlling him. Damaging his mind I have no problem witnh TP being able to cause him pain through TP. How ever my problem lies with the fact that in astinishing x-men he easily being mind control when that has never once been an ease thing for a telepth of any kind to accompish. Besides astonishing x-men when has wolverien ever been easily mind controlled? That would be pritty much never. Betts failed, nova fail, jean failed, tylor failed, master mind was able to accomplish it after lot of effort while being back by pheniox and even then logan had to be weaken first. His TP strength against mind control via TP has always been extremely strong however all of a sudden in astonishing x-men he easily mind controlled just does nto sit right with me and it may be due to bias, but I not sure it is.
