Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah but there cant be an excuse for every circumstance. There is no way that Wolverine after starving for days and not sleeping for days is gonna take on Cap, Cyclops and Hellion....hes just not that good.
He's not?
So the notion that he's "the best there is" since the mid 80's is nothing more than a lie? FORESHAME!!!!
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He does hold back more, if Spiderman and Wolverine were to go on a killing spree CIS off, I'm confident Spiderman could rack up more kills. 😉
That's your proof?
your opinion?
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterDepends... is spiderman dropping buildings on people and throwing cars at them?
I'll make a thread on that when I get back, because I'm certain you disagree.
Or is this an arena setting with lambs being fed to the slaughter...
bah.. it doesn't matter.. spiderman has to try harder to get a definite kill, and he tires faster.. wolverine can kill people quicker, easier and longer than spiderman could ever imagine in his worst nightmares.
Originally posted by jinzinBecause you said Logan has one hit kills. And overtly implied that Spiderman didn't.
That's your proof?
your opinion?Depends... is spiderman dropping buildings on people and throwing cars at them?
Or is this an arena setting with lambs being fed to the slaughter...
bah.. it doesn't matter.. spiderman has to try harder to get a definite kill, and he tires faster.. wolverine can kill people quicker, easier and longer than spiderman could ever imagine in his worst nightmares.
Spiderman has ko'ed people with a simple flick and nothing else, that's it.
With webbing it's even more of a slaughter. So that's your opinion.
And don't get me started on intelligence and use of environment. Tearing down buildings on people.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Because you said Logan has one hit kills. And overtly implied that Spiderman didn't.
I'm was reffering in comparison with one another.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spiderman has ko'ed people with a simple flick and nothing else, that's it.
but:
Yes he's done it a couple of times.. so what?
doesn't change a thing.
Spiderman punching cap to the face probably isn't going to kill the guy... wolverine punching cap to the face however...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
With webbing it's even more of a slaughter. So that's your opinion.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And don't get me started on intelligence and use of environment. Tearing down buildings on people.
Like I said before under what circumstances would this be.. because use his environment and his intelligence would be the only way peter could hope to keep up.
Originally posted by jinzin
He's not?So the notion that he's "the best there is" since the mid 80's is nothing more than a lie? FORESHAME!!!!
Since the 80s. 😆 What the time when Wolverine and the Xmen got pawned by Spiderman he was the best! While in previous showings Cap has put Spiderman on his back.
Well you said he has an upgrade but in the 80s he defintely was not the best.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Since the 80s. 😆 What the time when Wolverine and the Xmen got pawned by Spiderman he was the best! While in previous showings Cap has put Spiderman on his back.Well you said he has an upgrade but in the 80s he defintely was not the best.
Semi poor proof all things considered...
the X-men were trying to capture spiderman not hurt him..
for someone who wants to argue PIS against wolverine you certainly fail to see the PIS which favored spiderman there.. and AGAIN wolverine's given entire teams of X-men hell before..
and beaten monsters and enemies who've pwned all the X-men at once before as well....
LOL, I just realized somethin... here's my favoirte part of the excuses argument...
At face value....
Wolverine's had cap dead to rights on one occasion, and has knocked him the **** OUT on another!
At face value wolverine has had the advantage against spiderman in 5 encounters as opposed to spiderman's 4.
eat it boys.
Originally posted by jinzinWhat he does with the webbing, he can web and slam people killing them instantly. Many at a time, imagine that Spiderman game, except that he now has Superstrength and can lift cars, it's a perfect scenario.
I'm was reffering in comparison with one another.Again it was in comparison to one another...
but:
Yes he's done it a couple of times.. so what?
doesn't change a thing.
Spiderman punching cap to the face probably isn't going to kill the guy... wolverine punching cap to the face however...Webbing doesn't instantly kill people.. 😕
Like I said before under what circumstances would this be.. because use his environment and his intelligence would be the only way peter could hope to keep up.
Wolverine has to get in close for each and every one, do you want to make a thread on it or not, because this is off topic. If so, I'll do it when I come from work. I'm talking about humans. in a normal environment, CIS off. Not characters who aren't bulletproof but take class 100 punches just because.
Originally posted by jinzin
FINALLY... something we can agree on!
Originally posted by capt it up
ya pritty much lol. he is like a cracked out logan on steroids
I figured you and capt would want a group hug after that post but I fought the temptation, fought it I say!
Seriously though, anyone that has taken part in the Wolverine vs Spiderman thread I would hope isn't playing in this thread defending Spiderman for majority.
Originally posted by Soleran
I figured you and capt would want a group hug after that post but I fought the temptation, fought it I say!Seriously though, anyone that has taken part in the Wolverine vs Spiderman thread I would hope isn't playing in this thread defending Spiderman for majority.
ps: I wanted the hug 🙁
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
What he does with the webbing, he can web and slam people killing them instantly. Many at a time, imagine that Spiderman game, except that he now has Superstrength and can lift cars, it's a perfect scenario.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterThere's not much point in a city scape spiderman can use things that aren't necassarily "his"
Wolverine has to get in close for each and every one, do you want to make a thread on it or not, because this is off topic. If so, I'll do it when I come from work. I'm talking about humans. in a normal environment, CIS off. Not characters who aren't bulletproof but take class 100 punches just because.
In an arena setting wolverine will kill more due to stamina alone.
Originally posted by jinzinI don't agree with this, he has the strength to kill a person easily.
webbing any large number of people is going to take time.. it's going to take strength and it's inall totallity going to tire him out faster.. not only that but slamming them to the ground doesn't equate to a kill... he might kill the majority but there's probably a fair number who'll be left alive.There's not much point in a city scape spiderman can use things that aren't necassarily "his"
In an arena setting wolverine will kill more due to stamina alone.
But this is off topic and as usual we disagree so I'll make a thread (I'd been wanting to do this for a year or so anyways).
Originally posted by jinzin
Semi poor proof all things considered...the X-men were trying to capture spiderman not hurt [him..
[Yeah but it was still damn good feat which shows you how fast Spiderman is. Regardless of how wether Wolverine and the Xmen were trying to kill him or not, if Wolverine was that good he should have been able to catch him.
Originally posted by jinzin
for someone who wants to argue PIS against wolverine you certainly fail to see the PIS which favored spiderman there.. and AGAIN wolverine's given entire teams of X-men hell before..
I would need to know the circumstance of what happened.
Originally posted by jinzin
Wolverine's had cap dead to rights on one occasion,
When?
Originally posted by jinzin
and has knocked him the **** OUT on another!
When he was trying to talk to him and dont give me he couldnt knock Wolverine out because he should be. DD has knocked out Wolverine before with a pressure point. Punishers has put Wolverine on his back with a nutshot. Sabretooth has knocked Wolverine out by putting pressure on his neck.
Hell Cap has stunned Giant Man while in frail body with one finger.