Originally posted by MetalmanxJuggernaught surely seems to think different.
Why is the forcefield different? It's magic in nature. Ergo, it's magical durability. Hell, Wolverine almost assuredly could not pierce Juggernaut without his forcefield,
Considering the fact that shatterstar has made him bleed WITHOUT admantium blades.. I don't blame him.
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Um, Spiderman has had instances were he has owned Wolverine (Smashing his head into tombstone and chance to break neck in SVSW, Knocking him unconcious in MTU and making him stab himself almost to death in MTU)BTW, Spiderman has single handedly defeated Sabertooth before when he worked for the foreigner.
So, If we use your logic, since Spiderman can defeat Sabretooth, Wolverine is toast.
G'bye, son. Come back when you're not ignorant.
Originally posted by jinzin
Ignorant?You wish to speak of ignorance? Look no further than your own pathetic argument.
Spiderman has only EVER (aside from secret wars) owned wolverine in NON FIGHTS....
Smashing his head into a tombstone did: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING... Wolverine was smiling at him for God's sake and jumpeed right back on top of spidey... This "chance" you say Spiderman had to kill him... DOESN'T EXIST.... Spiderman would have tried to break an admantium neck and he would have FAILED.... Are you really gonna argue that Spidey can break admantium now?
And if the Spinal cord is the issue, let me say this, SABRETOOTH HAS ALREADY TRIED THE EXACT. SAME. THING........ DID NOT WORK.... period!Spiderman was the only one there who was in a position to die with wolverine's sheathed claws at his throat.... funny how you forgot that part.
Spiderman DIDN'T knock Wolverine unconcious in MTU: read the damned book you blind mook.
Wolverine was completely concious and the only point were Wolverine stabbed himself was when he CHOSE to do it TO HIMSELF... Spiderman didn't "make him stab himself almost to death"... which by the way, shows how much you know about Wolverine's damage soak which is to say.. JACK SHIT...
Doesn't change the fact of the matter that Wolverine's had Spiderman dead to rights more times than the opposite, so that settles that.
And yeah by carver's logic Sabretooth WOULD lose considering Spiderman "beat him" before....
You know, if Sabretooth didn't have a healing factor, or super strength, or super human speed, or an adamantium skeleton, or years of h2h combat training.. all traits that weren't written into his character until YEARS after he met up with Spiderman who didn't even beat him anyways... Spiderman haphazardly caused Sabretooth to beat himself when Sabes pulled off spidey's webbing and ripped his face off... an injury that wouldn't even slow Sabretooth down now-a-days....So why don't you go and read some comics, gain some knowledge, and learn your shit before you come into this house talking your shit, and accusing other people of having ignorance; a trait which you clearly have an abundance of.
Just so you don't miss this kiddo. 😉
Originally posted by crimsonphoenix
I agree that Spiderman and Wolverine are equal depending on the area but Web, Spider sense, NY> Wolverine 🥷 but if this was a cage or jungle fight then wolverine would take it. Sabertooth should destroy spiderman so I don't understand why they are arguing so hard to defend spidey. I need to read more 🙁
Now this I do agree with.. and this is why I like crims.. well one of the reasons anyways.
Originally posted by golem370
He fights black Tarantula who is stronger
Originally posted by golem370
Lizard who was stronger
Originally posted by golem370who while powerful, are basically clowns when it comes to fighting ability, they don't have it, aside from macendale and gwens spawns all the goblins have been your run of the mill "meat and potatoes" fighters..
Green Goblin and Hobgoblin
Not only that but they TOO lack the healing ability that Creed has. Or the one hit kill factor that his claws have.
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
It's Sarcasm and you didn't use it in your context just now, did you?Ironic.
Wolverine and Sabertooth spar constantly and they usually stalemate. I see Spiderman and Sabertooth stalemating as well.
You must "see" that like you "saw" an unconcious and almost stabbed to death wolverine in MTU. 🤨
No they don't usually stalemate.. Wolverine either run's away, get's stomped on, or gets saved by other people... 😐
That's not to say he doesn't have wins of course.. But Sabretooth just has more.. by a noticable amount.
Originally posted by jinzinAgreed. In the last 2 Wolverine comics, I had Sabes getting the best of Logan.
You must "see" that like you "saw" an unconcious and almost stabbed to death wolverine in MTU. 🤨No they don't usually stalemate.. Wolverine either run's away, get's stomped on, or gets saved by other people... 😐
That's not to say he doesn't have wins of course.. But Sabretooth just has more.. by a noticable amount.
Originally posted by jinzin
Ignorant?You wish to speak of ignorance?
Yes, I do.
Look no further than your own pathetic argument.
Semantics.
Spiderman has only EVER (aside from secret wars) owned wolverine in NON FIGHTS....
Empty statement. You can ask me why since I know you contain high degrees of difficulty picking up on obvious vagueness (The oxymoron effectively applies, I can explain that too. Most likely in Layman's terms for your unbalanced mind.)
Smashing his head into a tombstone did: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING... Wolverine was smiling at him for God's sake and jumpeed right back on top of spidey... This "chance" you say Spiderman had to kill him... DOESN'T EXIST.... Spiderman would have tried to break an admantium neck and he would have FAILED.... Are you really gonna argue that Spidey can break admantium now?
Ignorance to physics, Appealing to a non sequitur.
Only one bone goes up the column of the neck: The spine.
In order to break a neck, the spinal bone/cord does not have to be damaged or even remotely broken.
So, yeah. You're damn ignorant and you don't know what you're talking about, which is NO surprise.
And yes, Spiderman had the chance to absolutely tear Wolverines neck innards into mince. He can bench press Toyota's. Get realistic.
None of your oversized posts contain irrelevant semantics and reckless debates can save you from me now, son.
And if the Spinal cord is the issue, let me say this, SABRETOOTH HAS ALREADY TRIED THE EXACT. SAME. THING........ DID NOT WORK.... period!
Spiderman was the only one there who was in a position to die with wolverine's sheathed claws at his throat.... funny how you forgot that part.Spiderman DIDN'T knock Wolverine unconcious in MTU: read the damned book you blind mook.
Hahaha, you're an idiots. Marvel Team-Up was a series. Spidey and Wolverine fought twice. Spiderman owned him twice in a row.
Wolverine was completely concious and the only point were Wolverine stabbed himself was when he CHOSE to do it TO HIMSELF... Spiderman didn't "make him stab himself almost to death"... which by the way, shows how much you know about Wolverine's damage soak which is to say.. JACK SHIT...
Strawman fallacy. Where in the hell did I say Spiderman MADE Wolverine stab himself? If you want to get theoretically technical, HE DID MAKE HIM STAB HIMSELF.
Wolverine had to shank himself to get free of the webbing, you ignoramus. Spiderman placed the webbing there. He subliminally and essentially made Wolverine stab himself, to a circumstantial extent.
Can you come back when you can debate?
Doesn't change the fact of the matter that Wolverine's had Spiderman dead to rights more times than the opposite, so that settles that.
No, not really. Spiderman had the chance to kill Wolverine and Wolverine had that chance. Your inconclusive and inconsequential rebuttals do not assist you in any way, shape or form to change that whatsoever.
They AGREED in the DAMN COMIC BOOK they had stalemated. Don't be biased. Bias is the prominent sign in fanboyism, something you really don't need with you in a debate.
And yeah by carver's logic Sabretooth WOULD lose considering Spiderman "beat him" before....
You know, if Sabretooth didn't have a healing factor, or super strength, or super human speed, or an adamantium skeleton, or years of h2h combat training.. all traits that weren't written into his character until YEARS after he met up with Spiderman who didn't even beat him anyways... Spiderman haphazardly caused Sabretooth to beat himself when Sabes pulled off spidey's webbing and ripped his face off... an injury that wouldn't even slow Sabretooth down now-a-days....
More biased crap. Look at you, just listing off all of Sabretooth's feats and leaving Spideys to rot. Fine, why doesn't Spiderman just tear him into shreds with his f*cking POISONOUS set of six razor sharp pincers he has attached to his back.
Stop seeking excuses. Sabretooth was in the hospital as a cause of fighting Spiderman. Don't you understand this? Another incident of Spidermans webbing inadvertently causing a loss or serious harm.
So why don't you go and read some comics, gain some knowledge, and learn your shit before you come into this house talking your shit, and accusing other people of having ignorance; a trait which you clearly have an abundance of.
Ad Hominem, Logical Fallacy.
You go look that up now while I sulk and wait for you to come back with another half assed retort that I can bury.
Don't displace this as shoddy arrogance, but when it comes to debating, you're out of your league here.
Sorry, son.
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Semantics..
No, you being flat out wrong has nothing to do with semantics...
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Empty statement. You can ask me why since I know you contain high degrees of difficulty picking up on obvious vagueness (The oxymoron effectively applies, I can explain that too. Most likely in Layman's terms for your unbalanced mind.)
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Ignorance to physics, Appealing to a non sequitur.
Nonsense: nothing is of logical concequence where it concerns mutant superpowers and mutations in a fitionalized comic book media.. nice try though...
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Only one bone goes up the column of the neck: The spine.
One bone? The spine consists of 24 vertebrae, the neck;housing 7 of them, not "one bone" 🤨
Yeah but you want to go on about "non sequitur" like you have some clue as to what you're talking about...
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
In order to break a neck, the spinal bone/cord does not have to be damaged or even remotely broken.
So, yeah. You're damn ignorant and you don't know what you're talking about, which is NO surprise.
And yes, Spiderman had the chance to absolutely tear Wolverines neck innards into mince. He can bench press Toyota's. Get realistic.
But please, do enlighten me on exactly what you think was going to happen.
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
None of your oversized posts contain irrelevant semantics and reckless debates can save you from me now, son.
Son.... riiight.
let me say this AGAIN:
And if the Spinal cord is the issue, let me say this, SABRETOOTH HAS ALREADY TRIED THE EXACT. SAME. THING........ DID NOT WORK.... period!
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Hahaha, you're an idiots. Marvel Team-Up was a series. Spidey and Wolverine fought twice. Spiderman owned him twice in a row.
I'm an "idiots", as in more than one? 😂
Dude, you realize how ridiculous you're making yourself sound right now do you not?
Yes, there have been two volumes of marvel team up.... NEVER has a fight between Wolverine or Spiderman taken place the way that you have described.. PERIOD...
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Strawman fallacy. Where in the hell did I say Spiderman MADE Wolverine stab himself?
Originally posted by Seraphim XIIIpffft.. 🙄
Um, Spiderman has had instances were he has owned Wolverine (Smashing his head into tombstone and chance to break neck in SVSW, Knocking him unconcious in MTU and making him stab himself almost to death in MTU)
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
If you want to get theoretically technical, HE DID MAKE HIM STAB HIMSELF.
Originally posted by Seraphim XIIII'm an ignoramous because you've been forced to backpeddle and rationalize on an argument you F'd up? LMAO
Wolverine had to shank himself to get free of the webbing, you ignoramus. Spiderman placed the webbing there. He subliminally and essentially made Wolverine stab himself, to a circumstantial extent.
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Can you come back when you can debate?
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
No, not really. Spiderman had the chance to kill Wolverine and Wolverine had that chance. Your inconclusive and inconsequential rebuttals do not assist you in any way, shape or form to change that whatsoever.
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
They AGREED in the DAMN COMIC BOOK they had stalemated.
Obviously the comic world is full of those little white lies and that was one of them...
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Don't be biased. Bias is the prominent sign in fanboyism, something you really don't need with you in a debate.
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
More biased crap. Look at you, just listing off all of Sabretooth's feats and leaving Spideys to rot. Fine, why doesn't Spiderman just tear him into shreds with his f*cking POISONOUS set of six razor sharp pincers he has attached to his back.
Cause 1: he doesn't have 6 of them.
2: they're not poisionous.
3: He doesn't even have them anymore or the suit they came with.
4: because anytime spidey would try to engage Sabretooth in hand to hand he would die.
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Stop seeking excuses. Sabretooth was in the hospital as a cause of fighting Spiderman. Don't you understand this? Another incident of Spidermans webbing inadvertently causing a loss or serious harm.
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Ad Hominem, Logical Fallacy..
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
You go look that up now while I sulk and wait for you to come back with another half assed retort that I can bury.
I don't think me looking up words I already know is going to help you understand them better, or make you're argument look any more valid.. 😬
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Don't displace this as shoddy arrogance, but when it comes to debating, you're out of your league here.Sorry, son.
Originally posted by capt it upyes a bat to the nuts putting logan down is pis when the guy stands there and takings bullets after bullets with a smile.
Actually im starting to think its not Puck was also able to hurt Wolverine in the nuts as well. As Wolverine put it "Theres no adamantuim down there."
Originally posted by Alfheim
Actually im starting to think its not Puck was also able to hurt Wolverine in the nuts as well. As Wolverine put it "Theres no adamantuim down there."
yeah I've never really thought a nut shot should be considered anything less than ungodly painful even with a healing factor. 😬
Originally posted by masterbruce
still think spiderman wins. spiderman can hold his own against classic venom...who's much deadlier than sabretooth
and sabertooth has a majority of wins over wolverine.........so much for your argument.
Originally posted by masterbruce
still think spiderman wins. spiderman can hold his own against classic venom...who's much deadlier than sabretooth
yeah well, see the thing is... you're wrong.
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1344/sabes5oq5.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9586/sabes4pj4.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4964/sabes3fx7.jpg
And spiderman damn near NEVER holds a legitimate fight against Venom unless he has help, a weapon, or a plan.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
if your going by that then your beign stupid it.......Logan ahs in ever fight with venom either stail mated him or was on the winning end..............and sabertooth has a majority of wins over wolverine.........so much for your argument.
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Originally posted by jinzin
yeah well, see the thing is... you're wrong.
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1344/sabes5oq5.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9586/sabes4pj4.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4964/sabes3fx7.jpgAnd spiderman damn near NEVER holds a legitimate fight against Venom unless he has help, a weapon, or a plan.
those scans prove nothing:
1. spiderman was completely fooling around...ie calling sabes "tall dark and gruesome"
2. wolverine punched sabes clawless whereas he could've slashed him had his claws been extended
3. both spidey and wolverine were obviously not the least bit intimidated by sabes and were fighting him one on one as opposed to double teaming him
