Spiderman versus Sabretooth

Look down the page the train car is not touching the ground. Plus it would be harder to do it the way he is doing it because he is balancing the longer part of the train with his power. There is also a scan where he had a celing fall on top of him underground and trapes him on top of the ruble is a subway car and he lifts it off of him. There is speculation that the radiation in Spider-Man's blood is sorta like that in Hulk in which when Spider-Man gets angry or scared his adreline kicks in and he is able to become stronger then normal.

Originally posted by golem370
There is speculation that the radiation in Spider-Man's blood is sorta like that in Hulk in which when Spider-Man gets angry or scared his adreline kicks in and he is able to become stronger then normal.

That could make sense, but all mutants get their powers from background radiation. So the same could apply to them.

Im not sure what to think right now.

hes right in the fact that a lot of Spidermans high end strength feats have come during times when he is under duress.

The Scan from ASM of him lifting all that debri is an example, as is the lifting of the train when he gets angry and is tired of holding back.

They are hardly constant enough to have him have rage amping strength like the Hulk though but its a known fact that normal humans in times of intense stress have displayed almost superhuman strength.

So given Spidermans already superhuman strength, you can see where he found the strength to do those feats.

Question is though, can he do this on a regular basis? and I would say not, this is an interesting fight, Sabretooths durability means he would be tough for Spiderman to put down.

He has taken shots from guys a lot stronger than Spiderman, even if Spiderman goes all out.

Creed isn't afraid of taking shots to get into a position to deal some damage, he knows he will heal quick after all, Spiderman is the more agile of the two but Sabretooth moves pretty quickly himself.

Fighting skills the nod has to go to creed, he is more precise and will go for the kill, where as even a bloodlusted Spiderman is just going to bludgeon until Creed stops getting back up.

The claws are also a factor, this isn't just about strength alone, if Creed slices an artery, Spiderman is in trouble.

Webbing helps Spidey, it can slow Creed down and help Peter put some distance between them.

Its a curb stomp for neither party but I think Creeds Healing ability keeps him in it longer than Spidey and eventually he would wear him down.

I give Sabretooth a slight, ever so slight majority 6/10.

Sigh.

"Thwip!"

Hold on a second here. Spider-man with webs would take the majority. As Sabes isn't that much above Wolverine.

Without webbing Soider-man would go down though.

A lot of people dont know what they are talking about sabertooth wins the majority here. Sabertooth is more than capable of hitting spiderman and he can laugh off majority of spiderman attacks just like he laugh at almost anybody attacks. Wolverine takes a huge majority and against someone that is much more ruthless than wolverine and wont show as much mercy as wolverine, spiderman is going down and quite fast and hard. This is a different step from morlun that he is fighting, this is an entire different level. Lets put it like this, sabertooth almost killed spiderman and punisher while they were fighting together, what is spiderman going to do alone against a more deadly, stronger, and ruthless sabertooth than the one he fought before.

hmmmmmm Okay sabretooth was too fast for spiderman BEFORE he had the graydon creed enhancements... now would just be outright embarrassing...

Not much above wolverine?

Oh yea, except for the part where he's 10x stronger, more durable, a better healing factor, faster, has infared vision, and can will his hyperactive and superhuman senses away if needed.

pfffft. 🙄

Spiderman with webs loses, spiderman without webs loses... this is ridiculous.. Sabretooth wins, flat out.

It's like someone said earlier, we've seen how spiderman deals with MA's. now spidey's up against a superhuman MA, the last time we saw something comparible to that which was black turantula.. and we all saw how he faired.. sabretooth wins.

Jinzin has a good point there. & Sabretooth would be able to cut webs a lot more efficently with his claws than Wolverine. He doesn't need to move his hands in order to cut the webs, just his fingers..

I think people should look at it this way, Sabertooth is pretty much Spider-man and Wolverine combined, Spider-mans strength and speed and wolverines admantium, healing factor, senses and skills.

And in this fight Spidey fans can't fall back on the webbing because Sabertooth is strong enough to rip the webbing without his claws.

Sabretooth 9/10, Spider-man gets 1 win for some sort of flukey KO

(and yes I do think Sabertooth could break the webbing because Spider-man can do it himself...well sometimes depends on the writer really, and they are in the same strength class)

Spidey loses. Plain and simple.

(I don't like it either)

Spider-Man wins there is no way in hell Sabretooth is as fast or as strong as Spider-Man. Spider-Man once snapped a chain holding a three ton wrecking ball and started twirling it like Thor twirling his hammer. Now if Sabretooth got hit with something like that it might not kill him but it should K.O Sabretooth. 6,000 pounds hurtling at Sabretooth at 50 to 100mph would imo really hurt Sabretooth.

Originally posted by jinzin

It's like someone said earlier, we've seen how spiderman deals with MA's. now spidey's up against a superhuman MA, the last time we saw something comparible to that which was black turantula.. and we all saw how he faired.. sabretooth wins.

Yeah thats what I said. Realistically Spiderman should lose.

Originally posted by golem370
Spider-Man wins there is no way in hell Sabretooth is as fast or as strong as Spider-Man. Spider-Man once snapped a chain holding a three ton wrecking ball and started twirling it like Thor twirling his hammer. Now if Sabretooth got hit with something like that it might not kill him but it should K.O Sabretooth. 6,000 pounds hurtling at Sabretooth at 50 to 100mph would imo really hurt Sabretooth.

assuming there is a 3 ton chain ball lying around

in the time it takes Spiderman to lift the chain and swing it around above his head

what is Sabretooth doing? just watching?

Well since Sabretooth can't move as fast as Spider-Man he could grab it and comeback before Sabretooth couldn't stop him from doing it. He could also wrap Sabretooth with a bunch of Webbing and then toss cars and trucks on him traping him.

Originally posted by golem370
Spider-Man wins there is no way in hell Sabretooth is as fast or as strong as Spider-Man.

Then we have to consider that after his murauder upgrades he was not only faster than wolverine, but he PROVED himself to be too fast for spiderman, having spiderman well at the hands of his mercy.

Since weapon x sabretooth snatched sinister's superman out of the air, and speedblitzed deadpool faster than deadpool could even draw his sword.

Strength is debateable, if all the sources are correct on creed's strength, he's actually on the same level as spiderman.. the big difference however is their ability to use their strength.. sabretooth backed by formal training will be hitting multiples over his actual strength level, and then further backed by an admantium skeleton you're looking at one heavy hitter.

Spiderman's strength on the other handis useless to him.. how on earth can he possibly use it here? he can't overpower creed, he can't subdue him with brute power.. he just doesn't have what it takes for that.. so why bring strength up? that's clearly not an advantage in spiderman's favor. 😕

Originally posted by golem370
.. Spider-Man once snapped a chain holding a three ton wrecking ball and started twirling it like Thor twirling his hammer. Now if Sabretooth got hit with something like that it might not kill him but it should K.O Sabretooth. 6,000 pounds hurtling at Sabretooth at 50 to 100mph would imo really hurt Sabretooth.

pffft... same old story.. spiderman's outclassed so he starts generating peices of city out his ass to aid him.

and no, a wrecking ball is not going to be more effetive than punches from the class 100 killpower, the class 100+ sasquatch, the class 100+ wendigo, the class 100 sinister superman, the class 100 juggernaught, the class 50+ ms. marvel, the class 50+ rogue aided by a flying speedblitz, or danny rand's iron fist. 😐

sabretooth's stood up to all of those.

it's sad, even giving spiderman random ass street fight weapons, you still can't bring up a way for peter to level the playing field for himself. 😬

Originally posted by golem370
Well since Sabretooth can't move as fast as Spider-Man he could grab it and comeback before Sabretooth couldn't stop him from doing it. He could also wrap Sabretooth with a bunch of Webbing and then toss cars and trucks on him traping him.

Originally posted by jinzin
another fallacy, and another instance of this city generation power spidey somehow attained.

I even stated in my OP that this fight is in an empty Warehouse.

I have a question though, the way you described Sabretooth, he seems so much more powerful than Logan in almost every way. How does Logan than hang or even beat Sabretooth?

Originally posted by masterbruce
I even stated in my OP that this fight is in an empty Warehouse.

A warehouse full of cars? 😕 I must have missed that post.

Originally posted by masterbruce
I have a question though, the way you described Sabretooth, he seems so much more powerful than Logan in almost every way. How does Logan than hang or even beat Sabretooth?

He is far more powerful than logan in every way.. that's the entire basis of his character and it has been since his incarnation.
Wolverine stands up to sabretooth in fights because wolverine's far more suited for dealing with someone like sabretooth than most people are.
Wolverine has the skills, and the tempered knowledge to make up for his lack of physicality against sabretooth. Though their skill level is roughly comparable, Sabretooth more easily loses it than wolverine does, allowing for wolverine to exploit sabre-tooth's mistakes more often than not. Sabretooth also suffers from EXTREME CIS when dealing with wolverine. Wolverine above all others brings the cockiness out of Sabretooth, which again lends itself to allow for sabretooth to make more mistakes. Finally, wolverine's claws are what REALLY even the odds between them. They are just entirely more efficient weapons for sabretooth than brick punches are.

All that said however, Wolverine and Sabretooth when both are on level ground are not equivalent.

When they both are bone clad warriors sabretooth has the advantage.
When both have adamantium, sabretooth has the advantage.
The only time this isn't the standard is when wolverine has the adamantium as opposed to sabre-tooth's natural bones.
Though bone clawed wolverine did beat admantiumized sabes, I think that is more of an exception than a standard.

so I guess it's settled...Sabretooth wins?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Spider-Man for the win. Just not an easy win.

metalmanx, have you changed your mind?