Originally posted by masterbruce
so I guess it's settled...Sabretooth wins?
yeah pretty much...
I mean the only way for spiderman to even get a win is through webbing.. which is alltogether even harder for him to do here than it is against wolverine... the plausibility of spiderman pulling something like that off on sabretooth who is faster than cap, as strong as spiderman, has his own claws, and can pretty much decimate whatever he gets webbed to.. kinda dictates there's relatively no chance of spiderman winning this..
not only does he have to fight immaculately but he has to drop someone who's outside of his capibility to bring down physically.
Originally posted by masterbruce
I have a question though, the way you described Sabretooth, he seems so much more powerful than Logan in almost every way. How does Logan than hang or even beat Sabretooth?
Simply put, Wolverine hangs with Sabretooth because Sabretooth allows him too. Sabretooth is always toying with Wolverine, sometimes he gets cocky and finds him self in over his head but he is never going all out against Logan. Victor has ulterior motives concerning Wolverine, he knows what their relationship is and he has been stringing him along for years. Fact is Wolverine only holds his own Sabretooth because Victor, in some twisted way, gets some amusement out of it.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Simply put, Wolverine hangs with Sabretooth because Sabretooth allows him too. Sabretooth is always toying with Wolverine, sometimes he gets cocky and finds him self in over his head but he is never going all out against Logan. Victor has ulterior motives concerning Wolverine, he knows what their relationship is and he has been stringing him along for years. Fact is Wolverine only holds his own Sabretooth because Victor, in some twisted way, gets some amusement out of it.
hmmm....never knew that, the couple times I saw them tango didn't look like Sabretooth was just fooling with Logan...I doubt Sabretooth gets amusement from his brain being lobotomized by Logan.
But I guess it is settled that Sabretooth kills Spiderman.
Originally posted by jinzin
well see, that's where your wrong.
Before sabretooth's establishments and supposed power upgrades in the mauraders sabretooth's speed was astonishing to iron fist, terrifying even.
Spiderman's never got that kind of reaction out of IF due to speed.Then we have to consider that after his murauder upgrades he was not only faster than wolverine, but he PROVED himself to be too fast for spiderman, having spiderman well at the hands of his mercy.
Since weapon x sabretooth snatched sinister's superman out of the air, and speedblitzed deadpool faster than deadpool could even draw his sword.
You got to be kiddin me? 😱 Serioulsy Sabretooth is faster than Spiderman. Are all these showings consistent?
I still agree that Sabretooth wins but im just interested to know if hes that fast.
Spidey takes this 7/10 due to Webbing, Spider-sense, agililty, and super-strength.
Sabretooth takes this 3/10 if he manages to trap, weardown or somehow get a vital strike in on spidey.
In general, I dont see Sabretooth able to get any slices in whatsoever unless Spidey is exhausted and for some strange reason cant anticipate and dodge as normal.
Regarding speed, Sabretooth is nowhere near as agile and quick as Spider-man.
And the Web situation:
It depends on how the webbing is used. If Spidey were to web his hands/fists, then arms, then shoulders etc, Sabre has no range of movement in which to break free, and no exposed claws (web covered) to cut. Spidey can definitely dodge, and kick out webbing faster than Sabre can cut though anyways. In minutes, he'd look like a wiggling moron.
In jumps Spidey and its clobbering time. He could re-inforce the webbing, or go in for some extreme blows.
Regeneration does not help against KO's or decapitation. And Spidey can pretty much read Sabretooths movements in advance with Spider sense.
Keep in mind I'm not saying Sabre has no chance, it just lesser odds - like 3/10 due to spideys mobility, and spider-sense.s
The Blob is said to possess class 75 strength (obviously, before his depowering) as part of an ongoing mutation that took place in his body, gradually increasing his superhuman strength.
And yet, the webbing held him just fine:
http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanvsblob16xu.jpg
http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanblobcapture8ts.jpg
And then there are things like this:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6432145
Given the sheer size of that load, the webbing would require some immense durability to hold onto that--while swinging at high speeds. I'm sure I don't need to explain the physics to anyone. Which is good, because I can't explain it well in here.
There's this example, too (though I believe the rock load to be more impressive):
http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanwolverine3p12hg6ub.jpg
http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanwolverine3p13hg1nb.jpg
And then this:
http://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvnewsvenom13kf.jpg
http://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsnewvenom26zd.jpg
http://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsnewvenom37xc.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsnewvenom49ce.jpg
Hell, they were hardly that high up, too. The speed in which he fired his webbing and having it stick was just ridiculous there.
And since I've never doubted that Sabretooth could cut through the webbing (I mean, he's got claws afterall), I'm simply arguing that Sabretooth would not be strong enough to break out of it (sans cutting).
Originally posted by Metalmanx
The Blob is said to possess class 75 strength (obviously, before his depowering) as part of an ongoing mutation that took place in his body, gradually increasing his superhuman strength.And yet, the webbing held him just fine:
http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanvsblob16xu.jpg
http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanblobcapture8ts.jpgAnd then there are things like this:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6432145Given the sheer size of that load, the webbing would require some immense durability to hold onto that--while swinging at high speeds. I'm sure I don't need to explain the physics to anyone. Which is good, because I can't explain it well in here.
There's this example, too (though I believe the rock load to be more impressive):
http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanwolverine3p12hg6ub.jpg
http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanwolverine3p13hg1nb.jpgAnd then this:
http://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvnewsvenom13kf.jpg
http://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsnewvenom26zd.jpg
http://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsnewvenom37xc.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsnewvenom49ce.jpgHell, they were hardly that high up, too. The speed in which he fired his webbing and having it stick was just ridiculous there.
And since I've never doubted that Sabretooth could cut through the webbing (I mean, he's got claws afterall), I'm simply arguing that Sabretooth would not be strong enough to break out of it (sans cutting).
🙁 Pretty much. Odds are in Spider-mans favor 7/10
Originally posted by Metalmanx
The Blob is said to possess class 75 strength (obviously, before his depowering) as part of an ongoing mutation that took place in his body, gradually increasing his superhuman strength.And yet, the webbing held him just fine:
http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanvsblob16xu.jpg
http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanblobcapture8ts.jpgAnd then there are things like this:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6432145Given the sheer size of that load, the webbing would require some immense durability to hold onto that--while swinging at high speeds. I'm sure I don't need to explain the physics to anyone. Which is good, because I can't explain it well in here.
There's this example, too (though I believe the rock load to be more impressive):
http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanwolverine3p12hg6ub.jpg
http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanwolverine3p13hg1nb.jpgAnd then this:
http://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvnewsvenom13kf.jpg
http://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsnewvenom26zd.jpg
http://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsnewvenom37xc.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsnewvenom49ce.jpgHell, they were hardly that high up, too. The speed in which he fired his webbing and having it stick was just ridiculous there.
And since I've never doubted that Sabretooth could cut through the webbing (I mean, he's got claws afterall), I'm simply arguing that Sabretooth would not be strong enough to break out of it (sans cutting).
Intresting to say the least.
Originally posted by Alfheim
You got to be kiddin me? 😱 Serioulsy Sabretooth is faster than Spiderman. Are all these showings consistent?I still agree that Sabretooth wins but im just interested to know if hes that fast.
yeah pretty much.. it's part of the basis of his original chracterization...
In his first and 2nd appearances he was astonishing IF with his speed.
In his fith appearance he nearly tagged spiderman.
Within his first ten appearances he proved he was faster than logan comparitively.
By the time he had become an established character he PWNERIZED spiderman and punisher at the same time using a blitz.
I don't know if he's positively faster than spiderman.. and I would be inclined to say that he probably isn't in all reality but he's probably very close to if not straight up as fast.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Spidey takes this 7/10 due to Webbing, Spider-sense, agililty, and super-strength.
webbing which will be less than effective,
spider sense which already proven won't help
and super strength which sabretooth stands roughly as his equal with?
pfffffft... 🙄
Sabretooth takes this 3/10 if he manages to trap, weardown or somehow get a vital strike in on spidey. [/B][/QUOTE]
please, spiderman's gone down from a claw poke from wolverine, a broken arn, and a noncholant kick to the gonads.. sabretooth hardly has to hit vitals.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
In general, I dont see Sabretooth able to get any slices in whatsoever unless Spidey is exhausted and for some strange reason cant anticipate and dodge as normal.
well what you "see" and what's most likely are two entirely different spectrums of fact my friend. I highly question what exactly you think ispossible for spiderman to "dodge as normal" cause it isn't someone on sabretooth's calibur.
