Thor versus The Elemental Four

Originally posted by Newjak
Yes the guy moves faster than the human eye can see. Has gone mutliple the speed of light and is faster than the lighting he commands
evillaugh

Magneto ain't a human. 😛

Thor can only go that fast by chucking Mjolnir. That won't help him in this fight, and it's not his natural speed. 💃

He's definitely not faster than lightning. You're naming three instances out of his thousands of appearances of over 40 years. evillaugh

In essence, you suck!! 😠

😛

Nah, you know I luvs ya, but you're seriously delusional when it comes to Thor's speed.

Originally posted by Newjak
But seriously Thor's hammer literally dispels all of Magneto's powers when he wants it to Mag's isn't even a facotr i nthis fight 😛

HA!!! I knew this point would get brought up sooner or later. 😆

That scan of Thor absorbing Magneto's power is only a half-truth, really. In fact, it's cropped from the full page. During that same fight, Magneto was beating the crap out of Thor, and took Mjolnir away from him for over a minute which made him go back to his Donald Blake state. When Magneto had his back turned, (and this was several minutes after the first initial encounter) Thor struck Magneto with Mjolnir, but Mags was able to put up a shield in time. Thor then absorbed Magneto's SHIELD away (not the energy residing in his body like most people think... that's a forum myth) and then grabbed him. Magneto then broke Thor's grasp on him by telekinetically shoving him away. So, actually Magneto really did get the better of Thor in that encounter. And to boot, it was even in a Journey Into Mystery title!!! Ha!! Score 1 for Magneto!!! On top of that, Erik has shown Odinson up on 2 different occassions as well.

So really, that encounter is a misnomer. I suggest you look at the entire fight.

Don't f*ck with the master of electromagnetism!!!! 😎

Originally posted by Newjak
and you mother's a whore

Only on the weekends. mhm

Originally posted by batdude123
Magneto ain't a human. 😛

Thor can only go that fast by chucking Mjolnir. That won't help him in this fight, and it's not his natural speed. 💃

He's definitely not faster than lightning. You're naming three instances out of his thousands of appearances of over 40 years. evillaugh

In essence, you suck!! 😠

😛

Nah, you know I luvs ya, but you're seriously delusional when it comes to Thor's speed.

HA!!! I knew this point would get brought up sooner or later. 😆

That scan of Thor absorbing Magneto's power is only a half-truth, really. In fact, it's cropped from the full page. During that same fight, Magneto was beating the crap out of Thor, and took Mjolnir away from him for over a minute which made him go back to his Donald Blake state. When Magneto had his back turned, (and this was several minutes after the first initial encounter) Thor struck Magneto with Mjolnir, but Mags was able to put up a shield in time. Thor then absorbed Magneto's SHIELD away (not the energy residing in his body like most people think... that's a forum myth) and then grabbed him. Magneto then broke Thor's grasp on him by telekinetically shoving him away. So, actually Magneto really did get the better of Thor in that encounter. And to boot, it was even in a Journey Into Myster title!!! Ha!! Score 1 for Magneto!!! On top of that, Erik has shown Odinson up on 2 different occassions as well.

So really, that encounter is a misnomer. I suggest you look at the entire fight.

Don't f*ck with the master of electromagnetism!!!! 😎

Only on the weekends. mhm

By the way Thor doesn't turn into Donald Blake anymore and that was one example since Thor's Hammer can absorb Silver Surfer's Cosmic power which by the way greater than Magneto's powers 😉

Stop using his lowest showings BD seriously Thor is an animal 😄

Originally posted by Newjak
No its an actual feat Thor used his Hammer to dispell all of Mag's powers and made him basically cower in fear for his life 😉

Wow, what have these jackasses done to your fragile mind? shock

Look at the entire fight!!! 😠

Thor didn't dispell anything away from Erik, just the shield. 💃

Originally posted by batdude123
Wow, what have these jackasses done to your fragile mind? shock

Look at the entire fight!!! 😠

Thor didn't dispell anything away from Erik, just the shield. 💃

Originally posted by Newjak
OK let's see he has fought Glads when glads speed was mentioned he has fought Silver Surfer when Surfer was shown as a streak. Face it there is onyl a few times Thor is shown to be slow and that is normally in the Avengers i nhis own books and outside of the X-men avengers realm Thor has plenty a feat to prove just how strong he is.

By the way Thor doesn't turn into Donald Blake anymore and that was one example since Thor's Hammer can absorb Silver Surfer's Cosmic power which by the way greater than Magneto's powers 😉

Stop using his lowest showings BD seriously Thor is an animal 😄

And you seem to assume that Gladiator and Silver Surfer were speedblitzing Thor. That's the problem. Thor, on average, really isn't that fast. I have plenty of JIM books, and plenty of his solo titles as well. He isn't "speedblitzing" material... at all. Unless his prey is someone like Wolverine. 😆

Yeah, that was in the 60's, when Classic Thor was at his most powerful. And Magneto has always been able to take Mjolnir away from Thor's grasp, and Thor acknowledges this in all their encounters. There's nothing for him to absorb, as it's just magnetically repelled, and no energy is directly being shot at him. It's happened enough times to where you're opinion on the matter means nothing!!! evillaugh 😛 💃

I'm not going to sit here and tell you that Magneto would take Thor by himself. That's not my mission. Thor would probably take 6-7/10 against Erik. But you have to give credit where credit is due. 😄

Erik along with these other characters however? Imo, the team would take it to him.

And you don't need to tell me how much of a beast Thor is. I already know. 😉

Originally posted by Newjak
You know dispelling his sheild more than enough to kil lMags 😉

Huh? 😕

Look at the entire fight. The encounter is in the Magneto Respect Thread, and it's there for a reason. Erik got the better of him in that fight. 😉

Originally posted by batdude123
And you seem to assume that Gladiator and Silver Surfer were speedblitzing Thor. That's the problem. Thor, on average, really isn't that fast. I have plenty of JIM books, and plenty of his solo titles as well. He isn't "speedblitzing" material... at all. Unless his prey is someone like Wolverine. 😆

Yeah, that was in the 60's, when Classic Thor was at his most powerful. And Magneto has always been able to take Mjolnir away from Thor's grasp, and Thor acknowledges this in all their encounters. There's nothing for him to absorb, as it's just magnetically repelled, and no energy is directly being shot at him. It's happened enough times to where you're opinion on the matter means nothing!!! evillaugh 😛 💃

I'm not going to sit here and tell you that Magneto would take Thor by himself. That's not my mission. Thor would probably take 6-7/10 against Erik. But you have to give credit where credit is due. 😄

Erik along with these other characters however? Imo, the team would take it to him.

And you don't need to tell me how much of a beast Thor is. I already know. 😉

Ok I would aslo like to point out that first all its PIS whenever Mags messes with the Hammer because A) Magical enchanted Hammer even the Hulk/Juggernaut(someone who in a What If made Erik's powers look foolish) can't pick up the hammer yet Erik can effect it.
B) He would still have to remove it from Thor's hand which Thor's strength greater than Eric's power since Thor actually has planetary moving feats. Even Zeus a SKYFATHER can't keep the Hammer away from Thor.

Yes I'm calling you out on that one my friend 😉

As for the spped he can swing his hammer faster than light he can travel faster than light he has fought people who cna move faster than light he has been described as being quicker than the lighting he commands yet he can't speedblitz a bunch of mutants.

Really is a non factor since Thor actually has documtented quicker than human reactions. Thor Can dispell his shield and most likely simply devlove him into a human, steal his soul, simply turn him into gas. Yet he can't beat him?

The guy freaking fights hurts Galactus and Celestials. He fights people who would mop the floor with all these people at once in the Silver Surfer twice with decribed power rivaling the Surfer.

Plus just like Superman Thor is documented as holding back most of the time from using his full powers.

So yeah Thor takes this with ease my friend no matter how much you want to say different.

Originally posted by batdude123
Huh? 😕

Look at the entire fight. The encounter is in the Magneto Respect Thread, and it's there for a reason. Erik got the better of him in that fight. 😉

Originally posted by masterbruce
yeah...seriously this team could give Thor a lot of trouble...especially if they work as a team

Iceman can constantly encase Thor in ice, freeze Thor's bloodflow, freeze Mjolnir in ice, etc

Human Torch can hurt and annoy Thor, blind him, cover him in flames so he can't see, etc

Storm will distract with tornadoes, Lightning, etc

Magneto will rain cars, buildings, etc upon Thor mercilessly, encase him in tons of metal, etc

This is not a cakewalk for Thor by any means

Originally posted by xmeat
😆 😆 thors a god how is iceman gonna freeze his bloodflow.
Johnny couldn't even hurt hulk.
Thor does everthing storm does and more.
Thor can send magneto to hell .

These are the questions that need to be asked....

1. Can Thor be killed? Just because youre immortal doesnt mean you cant be killed.

2. Is Thor allowed to use bfr here?

3. Does he need blood/food/water to live?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I don't recall Thor having as much pinpoint control over the elements as STorm. Has he ever even commanded the elements as well as her or as powerful? Thor is a jack of all trades. He's the master of nothing tho. IMO.

Battle goes in this Order

1. Iceman Flash Freezes Thor (if iceman can flash freeze the Stranger and effortelssly contain him, the he likely can do the same to Thor)

2. Magneto steals his hammer....

3. Storm bends the omniverse to her will and forms a lightning bolt out of it

4. Storm then hurls it at said frozen thor.

Yay!

Never mess with the power of Hudlin Storm, that and Thor is white, blue eyed, and blonde, GG Thor.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Battle goes in this Order

1. Iceman Flash Freezes Thor (if iceman can flash freeze the Stranger and effortelssly contain him, the he likely can do the same to Thor)

2. Magneto steals his hammer....

3. Storm bends the omniverse to her will and forms a lightning bolt out of it

4. Storm then hurls it at said frozen thor.

Yay!

Never mess with the power of Hudlin Storm, that and Thor is white, blue eyed, and blonde, GG Thor.

Originally posted by batdude123
And you seem to assume that Gladiator and Silver Surfer were speedblitzing Thor. That's the problem. Thor, on average, really isn't that fast. I have plenty of JIM books, and plenty of his solo titles as well. He isn't "speedblitzing" material... at all. Unless his prey is someone like Wolverine. 😆

Yeah, that was in the 60's, when Classic Thor was at his most powerful. And Magneto has always been able to take Mjolnir away from Thor's grasp, and Thor acknowledges this in all their encounters. There's nothing for him to absorb, as it's just magnetically repelled, and no energy is directly being shot at him. It's happened enough times to where you're opinion on the matter means nothing!!! evillaugh 😛 💃

I'm not going to sit here and tell you that Magneto would take Thor by himself. That's not my mission. Thor would probably take 6-7/10 against Erik. But you have to give credit where credit is due. 😄

Erik along with these other characters however? Imo, the team would take it to him.

And you don't need to tell me how much of a beast Thor is. I already know. 😉

They may not have been speedblitzing per say, however they were shown to be utilizing their speed through the duration of their battles. Also, Thor isn't the quickest character but he also isn't slow as shown when he battles heralds and the like.

Most Marvel characters were portrayed at their strongest during the earlier days of comics. I guess comics have become more logical since their beginning days.

Magneto being able to keep Thor from Mjolnir is unlikely. Not only can Thor physically attain his hammer, but he can also summon it back at will. Also, Thor has shown he can easily overcome Surfers influence on the hammer, he should be able to do the same during this match up.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsSurferfirstbattle10.jpg

Also displays Thor's superiority to Surfer

I don't believe that to be so. I think Thor can take the majority.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Battle goes in this Order

1. Iceman Flash Freezes Thor (if iceman can flash freeze the Stranger and effortelssly contain him, the he likely can do the same to Thor)

2. Magneto steals his hammer....

3. Storm bends the omniverse to her will and forms a lightning bolt out of it

4. Storm then hurls it at said frozen thor.

Yay!

Never mess with the power of Hudlin Storm, that and Thor is white, blue eyed, and blonde, GG Thor.

Wrong

1. Iceman is nothing Thor hasn't faced before. Thor has battled and bested Ymir in direct combat, Bobby seeing this was spooked.

2. Already displayed how this can be countered. However even if this does work Thor can use the Durok technique.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/BetaThor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/BetaThor2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/BetaThor3.jpg

3. Your not being serious are you?

4. No 😐

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I don't recall Thor having as much pinpoint control over the elements as STorm. Has he ever even commanded the elements as well as her or as powerful? Thor is a jack of all trades. He's the master of nothing tho. IMO.

I pray your not serous. As shown in his battle with Ego Thor can summon and increase his lightning by 100 fold. He can also blend his lightning with outside elements making it more powerful, and summon planet wide omni-directional stroms to defeat his opponents. Thor's so far above Storm when it comes to manipulating elements it's not even funny.

Thor then pulls a SBP , turning Mag's head to a fine,fine red mist.

Bobby is also easily dealt with , turned to stone in a second. No escape for him now . Storm gets fried , her own lightening turned upon her by a REAL god.

Johnny is pretty much dealt with like this.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r56/Cypher69/CW%207/Civil_War_007_008.jpg

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Wrong

1. Iceman is nothing Thor hasn't faced before. Thor has battled and bested Ymir in direct combat, Bobby seeing this was spooked.

2. Already displayed how this can be countered. However even if this does work Thor can use the Durok technique.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/BetaThor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/BetaThor2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/BetaThor3.jpg

3. Your not being serious are you?

4. No 😐

rofl did you think I was serious?

Originally posted by jrodslam
1. Can Thor be killed? Just because youre immortal doesnt mean you cant be killed.

Not wanting to split hairs but that is exactley what immortal means, you can't die and you can't be killed.

Hercules is/was a true immortal as are all olympians, the only way to ensure they stay dead is to disperse their atoms over the universe and even then, a high level sky father like Zeus could put them back together again.

Asgardians however are not true immortals, just very long lived, they age one year for every 100 years (or one year for every thousand in the case of Odin) so yes he can be killed.

Although it would take a lot to do the job.