Black Bolt vs "Classic" Apocalypse

Started by Martian_mind2 pages

....BB has slugged it out with Hulk with little to no siggns of injury or harm,energy blasts are useless as BB has cancelled out an enhanced Solar flare before,Apocalypse can't beat him by suffocation as BB has manipulated/thinned/controlled Atmosphere's before and his scream has affected peolpe much more durable then Apoc.So no,that Hulk restraint doesn't matter in the slightest.

Marveldatabase.com says BB's normal level is around 1ton, 60 with amping.

http://marveldatabase.com/Black_Bolt

Now, I don't know how accurate that is. But I am damn sure BB is not on Apoc's level of strength, even at Apoc's base.

Originally posted by bigbran
You know, it's funny... Surfer was put on his ass, under rocks from a word...

http://img138.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=676f0_midsun1.jpg

http://img136.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=d2db6_midsun2.jpg

http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=7885d_midsun3.jpg

Is this what you were talking about in the other thread?

There's nothing in these scans that indicates Surfer's durability couldn't stand up to BB. 😕

All I'm seeing is Surfer getting trapped for a seconds beneath a bunch of rocks, and then gets up.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Marveldatabase.com says BB's normal level is around 1ton, 60 with amping.

http://marveldatabase.com/Black_Bolt

Now, I don't know how accurate that is. But I am damn sure BB is not on Apoc's level of strength, even at Apoc's base.

Use a bio again and i swear i'll make a Jonn Vs Apoc thread.

Plus maybe you should take a look at BB's respect thread....It's not BB who's strength is in question...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Too......damn.......small! >_< And that looks more to be a low showing for Surfer. Surfer has survived suns exploding, asteroids, blasts from other heralds, and of course, Thanos (although he was in sorry shape after Thanos....). I don't see BB's scream as being more powerful than those things. Apoc is probably using his molecular control to negate the damage from BB's scream, which may be why he does so well against it.
Fixed...

I know, and the word burried him. As it has been shown to hurt almost everyone it has hit ('cept about one occasion, that everyone is so fond of).
His voice has been stated (hasn't really let us down either) to be able to destroy a planet.

Oh ya, he has also stalemated Maelstrom...

Umm... he was dead after Thanos... 😐 well, he did have an once of life left, because Thanos let him live...

Also... he can protect others in space:
http://img103.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=0d19d_protectt.jpg

Originally posted by bigbran
Fixed...

I know, and the word burried him. As it has been shown to hurt almost everyone it has hit ('cept about one occasion, that everyone is so fond of).
His voice has been stated (hasn't really let us down either) to be able to destroy a planet.

Oh ya, he has also stalemated Maelstrom...

Umm... he was dead after Thanos... 😐 well, he did have an once of life left, because Thanos let him live...

Also... he can protect others in space:
http://img103.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=0d19d_protectt.jpg

am I the only one getting pictures of hot girls from that link? not that I'm complaining...

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Surfer's also been KO'ed by Thor, The Thing, Thanos multiple times, and a Brick. (ok ok, the brick is PIS)

he's not always shown to be hyper-durable. I recall one scan where he was taking shots from an enraged hulk without blinking, and others where he gets KTFO by hulk. didn't hulk almost just kill him recently?

The thing about (classic) apocalypse is his stats aren't fixed and he has the ability to amp them just like surfer does.

He was KOed by the pis enhanced WM Thor... the same one that beat the whole Infinity Watch, and Dr Strange at the same time? Ya...

Thing... wasn't that like in his first appearance, and Thing was one of the strongest in the Universe at those times?

Thanos... now why would you even bring that up? He's Thanos! I fail to see how he is even instituted into this thread...

Umm... he was cut off by his source of power (Power Cosmic), and he was owning the hell out of Hulk (and all his buddies), until Hulk broke his mind control tab, and then cheapshotted him, when Surfer was thanking him... from behind, I might add, and had to beat on him repeatidly...

So... Apoc can reach Surfer status?

Originally posted by bigbran
So... Apoc can reach Surfer status?

Just because Classic Apocalypse shows an impressive degree of durability, it does not make him on Silver Surfer status.

Apoc would have needed to perform feats equal to Surfer, then he would have been on his level.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
🙄 he's more than durable enough to take BB's scream.
😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
You know, it's funny... Surfer was put on his ass, under rocks from a word...

http://img138.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=676f0_midsun1.jpg

http://img136.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=d2db6_midsun2.jpg

http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=7885d_midsun3.jpg


He didn't look hurt at all. Just buried under the rocks. So that really doesn't prove much.

apoc has taken BB's scream from what ive read and he didnt really care.