American Indians

Losers in a war?

Billy 2 Rivers says "No"

I'm an American Indian..full blooded. And I don't think so. Just the result of a lot of dark history. But I do think things could be a lot better than they are now...at least in Canada. Canada gets a lowered rating from the UN because of their treatment of aboriginals.

I'd say that what America did was unjust to it's natives. But then my country DID near enough write the book about stealing other peoples countries and killing it's original occupants.

Originally posted by Soleran
Losers in a war?

yes.

not so much war as genocide, ethnic cleansing. Hitler killed 3 million jews in germany's holocaust..........childs play compared to what Europeans did to Americans.

It was ethnic cleansing and genocide at first then turned into ethnic corralling. Just as bad but I think the government officials at the time thought "history would vindicate them". 😛

well........they "corralled" the few survivors after a few hundred years of genocide..........those who were lucky enough to survive those centuries were moved to nice little reservations away from their homes while their children were taken from them and taught to be civilized (white).

Winners and losers, history is full of them. Winners write history loseres obviosly not, is it lucky Indians survived?

A lot was lost. Our languages are dying and our culture is dwindling away. I almost feel ashamed for moving to NYC and melting into the crowd.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
yes.

not so much war as genocide, ethnic cleansing. Hitler killed 3 million jews in germany's holocaust..........childs play compared to what Europeans did to Americans.

Indeed. A genocide which is never really spoken about. And when it is, it is deluted and almost justified.

Almost justifed? Where?

Originally posted by grey fox
I'd say that what America did was unjust to it's natives. But then my country DID near enough write the book about stealing other peoples countries and killing it's original occupants.

Hey now, they're Native Americans, not indians

They're no more native than you, me, or anyone else born in this country. I refuse to say native american.

Actually they are far more Native than you, considering that your history goes back barely 600 years, while their history on the land has been 10 000 years.

Furthermore, your ansestors stole the land of NATIVE Americans by lying and murdering.
You are on their land. You can call yourself ''native'' as much as you like, you are not so.

Just eat turkey and forget, there's a reason turkey makes you sleepy.

Originally posted by Kinneary
They're no more native than you, me, or anyone else born in this country. I refuse to say native american.

Why such a strong reaction to the "native" part of native American? Perhaps youl would like "Original Americans" better?

Just eat turkey and forget, there's a reason turkey makes you sleepy.

I always just attributed that to the large numbers of sleeping pills I use during the cooking process.

to hell with all the "native" american crap.........it's Indians. people are too PC. Indians didn't call themselves native americans, hell.....they didn't even call the land america.

my mother is 7/8 Indian......I'm just under 1/2.......and we all say Indian. too many PC people around here.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
too many PC people around here.

Well it is an online forum

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Originally posted by Evil Dead
to hell with all the "native" american crap.........it's Indians. people are too PC. Indians didn't call themselves native americans, hell.....they didn't even call the land america.

my mother is 7/8 Indian......I'm just under 1/2.......and we all say Indian. too many PC people around here.

Although "Indians" was a name given based upon the misconception of an explorer. I have no problem with Indian, nor Native American - people can call themselves what they want. But as far as official terms go Native American seems slightly more logical then Indian, which is just why I wondered about those who, in any nation, get all cagey about how people refer to the original inhabitants of their country - the:

"I refuse to consider them native. They are no more native then we, they have just been here longer."

It has happened in Australia, mainly back when their was talk of land rights and people starting thinking "Oh no, if we so much as even suggest they are more native then us, why, we'll be suggesting they have a greater claim to our land!" Which of course was silly, since land rights were poorly understood by many.