American Indians

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Actually they are far more Native than you, considering that your history goes back barely 600 years, while their history on the land has been 10 000 years.

Furthermore, your ansestors stole the land of NATIVE Americans by lying and murdering.

You are on their land. You can call yourself ''native'' as much as you like, you are not so. [/B]

My opinion on the matter is that yeah, I think its a dark spot on history, but at the same time, Im not gonna get up and move to Europe. Its hard to feel morally attached to history that occured that long ago.

did you know that of all the races on earth, american indians have the shortest penises? its a fact.

Not to mention it's not that it's PC to call them Native Americans. It's logical since they aren't from India. Columbus called them Indian because he thought he was in India.

Not to mention it's not that it's PC to call them Native Americans. It's logical since they aren't from India. Columbus called them Indian because he thought he was in India

actually it is. Indian and Native American are both terms you made up to call them......they never called themselves either one. As a matter of fact, they never called their land india or america. please......point out your logic.

They like Whisky

Originally posted by The Libertine
They like Whisky

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Firewater good! According to many films I watched as a kid!!!

me smokum wacky weed.

Originally posted by The Libertine
They like Whisky

that is a horrible stereotype. unfortunately it's true.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Furthermore, your ansestors stole the land of NATIVE Americans by lying and murdering.
You are on their land. You can call yourself ''native'' as much as you like, you are not so.

LOL... That's a nice blanket accusation; as noted, not all "white" people come from the same place and have the same background.

As far as being "Native American", I hate to break it to you, but anyone born in "America" would be a native.

As far as land belonging to anybody; with the exception of Africa where our earliest ancestors walked out of, everywhere else was migrated too. So the only truly "native" place anyone has is Africa.

You're right though, American Indians did get a seriously raw deal from the American Government; there were near genocidal killings and mass evictions. But in reality, this has happened all over the planet on every continent at some point in time.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
yes.

not so much war as genocide, ethnic cleansing. Hitler killed 3 million jews in germany's holocaust..........childs play compared to what Europeans did to Americans.

Not when you add South America to the equation. Francisco Pizarro and the Incas, Cortes and the Aztecs and Columbus in the Caribbean. The number of Natives that were killed by those three men far exceeds what Hitler did.

I just said that.......and you quoted me......and retorted with an affirmation of my post.

I don't get it?........do you not know what Hitler killing 3 million jews is childs play compared to the number of Indians the Europeans killed means?

do you not know what, "childs play" means? was that the source of your confusion?

Originally posted by Evil Dead
I just said that.......and you quoted me......and retorted with an affirmation of my post.

I don't get it?........do you not know what Hitler killing 3 million jews is childs play compared to the number of Indians the Europeans killed means?

do you not know what, "childs play" means? was that the source of your confusion?

Sorry about that i miss read it.

While we're on the subject, I'd like to propose we change the names of the Minnesota Vikings to the Minnesota Human Beings, the New England Patriots to the New England Human Beings, and the Tennessee Titans to the Tennessee Human Beings.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Actually they are far more Native than you, considering that your history goes back barely 600 years, while their history on the land has been 10 000 years.

Furthermore, your ansestors stole the land of NATIVE Americans by lying and murdering.
You are on their land. You can call yourself ''native'' as much as you like, you are not so.

So, should everyone go back to their own corner?

I'm barely a "native". I'm only 2nd generation. My father was the first generation born in this country. But I find it hard to believe that the people who live here now should be held accountable for the actions of people, however genetically related, who have been dead for hundreds of years.

Are the Jews sorry for Israel? Are the African Americans ready to go back to the mother land and live in buffalo hide tents? Both of these things were acheived through massive amounts of death and slavery, but I doubt they're ready to go back to the "good ole days".

Originally posted by Evil Dead
actually it is. Indian and Native American are both terms you made up to call them......they never called themselves either one. As a matter of fact, they never called their land india or america. please......point out your logic.

I never said that they called themselves native americans, nor did I say that they called their land India or America. Would you prefer natives instead? I would call them by their tribal names but I don't know the names of all the tribes. Only the big ones really.

I guess it's logical in a sense that they are from America (as we call it), so it would be the logical thing for us to call them Native Americans

Now logic me this, you sig says Evil Dead on it and has a pic of Jack Nicholson instead of Bruce Campbell. Makes no sense...

Originally posted by AngryManatee
Now logic me this, you sig says Evil Dead on it and has a pic of Jack Nicholson instead of Bruce Campbell. Makes no sense...

What does this have to do with anything at all? 😕

Originally posted by Evil Dead
that is a horrible stereotype. unfortunately it's true.

I also like Whisky and would also trade beads for it.

What's with this pedanticism over the use of the word 'native'? Everyone knows what it means in that context- native as in indigenous as OPPOSED to those who came in via European colonisation.

Trying to say "Oh, I am just as native as they are" is spectacularly missing the point behind the use of the term.