Darth Bane Runs The Gauntlet!

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Originally posted by jollyjim311
*Sigh*

This is just for you, allfg:

Vaapad, the seventh form of lightsaber combat, takes its name from a notoriously dangerous predator native to the moons of Sarapin: a vaapad attacks its prey with whipping strikes of its blindingly fast tentacles. Most have at least seven. It is not uncommon for them to have as many as twelve; the largest ever killed had twenty-three. With a vaapad, one never knew how many tentacles it had until it was dead: they move too fast to count. Almost too fast to see. So did Mace's blade.
Vaapad is as aggressive and powerful as its namesake, but its power comes at great risk: immersion in Vaapad opens the gates that restrain one's inner darkness. To use Vaapad, a Jedi must allow himself to enjoy the fight; he must give himself over to the thrill of battle. The rush of winning. Vaapad is a path that leads through the penumbra of the dark side.
Mace Windu created this style, and he was its only living master.
This was Vaapad's ultimate test.
Anakin blinked and rubbed his eyes again. Maybe he was still a bit flash-blind-the Korun Master seemed to be fading in and out of existence, half swallowed by a thickening black haze in which danced a meter-long bar of sunfire. Mace pressed back the darkness with a relentless straight-ahead march; his own blade, that distinctive amethyst blaze that had been the final sight of so many evil beings across the galaxy, made a haze of its own: an oblate sphere of purple fire within which there seemed to be dozens of swords slashing in all directions at once.
The shadow he fought, that blur of speed-could that be Palpatine?
Their blades flared and flashed, crashing together with bursts of fire, weaving nets of killing energy in exchanges so fast that Anakin could not truly see them-
But he could feel them in the Force.
The Force itself roiled and burst and crashed around them, boiling with power and lightspeed ricochets of lethal intent.
And it was darkening.
Anakin could feel how the Force fed upon the shadow's murderous exaltation; he could feel fury spray into the Force though some poisonous abscess had crested in both their hearts.
There was no Jedi restraint here.
Mace Windu was cutting loose.
Mace was deep in it now: submerged in Vaapad, swallowed by it, he no longer truly existed as an independent being.
Vaapad is a channel for darkness, and that darkness flowed both ways. He accepted the furious speed of the Sith Lord, drew the shadow's rage and power into his inmost center-
And let it fountain out again.
He reflected the fury upon its source as a lightsaber redirects a blaster bolt.
There was a time when Mace Windu had feared the power of the dark; there was a time when he had feared the darkness in himself. But the Clone Wars had given him a gift of understanding: on a world called Haruun Kal, he had faced his darkness and had learned that the power of darkness is not to be feared.
He had learned that it is fear that gives the darkness power.
He was not afraid. The darkness had no power over him. But-
Neither did he have power over it.
Vaapad made him an open channel, half of a superconducting loop completed by the shadow; they became a standing wave of battle that expanded into every cubic centimeter of the Chancellor's office. There was no scrap of carpet nor shred of chair that might not at any second disintegrate in flares of red or purple; lampstands became brief shields, sliced into segments that whirled through the air; couches became terrain to be climbed for advantage or overleapt in retreat. But there was still only the cycle of power, the endless loop, no wound taken on either side, not even the possibility of fatigue.
Impasse.
Which might have gone on forever, if Vaapad were Mace's only gift.
The fighting was effortless for him now; he let his body handle it without the intervention of his mind. While his blade spun and crackled, while his feet slid and his weight shifted and his shoulders turned in precise curves of their own direction, his mind slid along the circuit of dark power, tracing it back to its limitless source.
Feeling for its shatterpoint.
He found a knot of fault lines in the shadow's future; he chose the largest fracture and followed it back to the here and the
now-
And it led him, astonishingly, to a man standing frozen in the slashed-open doorway. Mace had no need to look; the presence in the Force was familiar, and was as uplifting as sunlight breaking through a thunderhead.
The chosen one was here.
Mace disengaged from the shadow's blade and leapt for the window; he slashed away the transparisteel with a single flourish.
His instant's distraction cost him: a dark surge of the Force nearly blew him right out of the gap he had just cut. Only a desperate Force-push of his own altered his path enough that he slammed into a stanchion instead of plunging half a kilometer from the ledge outside. He bounced off and the Force cleared his head and once again he gave himself to Vaapad.
He could feel the end of this battle approaching, and so could the blur of Sith he faced; in the Force, the shadow had become a pulsar of fear. Easily, almost effortlessly, he turned the shadow's fear into a weapon: he angled the battle to bring them both out onto the window ledge.
Out in the wind. Out with the lightning. Out on a rain-slicked ledge above a half-kilometer drop.
Out where the shadow's fear made it hesitate. Out where the shadow's fear turned some of its Force-powered speed into a Force-powered grip on the slippery permacrete.
Out where Mace could flick his blade in one precise arc and slash the shadow's lightsaber in half.
One piece flipped back in through the cut-open window. The other tumbled from opening fingers, bounced on the ledge, and fell through the rain toward the distant alleys below.
Now the shadow was only Palpatine: old and shrunken, thinning hair bleached white by time and care, face lined with exhaustion.

Still refuse to look at anything that isn't "Bane is teh roxorz!!1!"?

You are a blind little man.

Okay, everyone who hasn't been banned multiple times in the past few months, do you agree that Mace would win?

Please explain what point you're trying to prove. And while you're doing that, explain how this passage proves that, don't just post the passage without an explanation.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
See, this is like Vaapad. You do this to my arguments, and I just reflect it.

Why, aren't we witty today.

Same post, but nice try.

Anakin couldn't even see Mace when he was fighting.

Anyway, let's just ignore what allfg has to say, because, it's all been said before, and he is a fanboy. I could post a fight between the two and show Mace winning, and, he wouldn't believe it.

So? Mace after a tough fight?

OK, I'm done, you guys are all movie fanboys, and anybody can see that I've already owned all of you.

Originally posted by allfg
[B]Right, I lose credibility by supplementing my points with insults against a loser/troll, who just happened to be plainly and uselessly insulting me? OK...

Oh, **** off. Hopefully off the internet forever


Coming from you? Don't even go there, unless you want me to point out your whole lumberjack argument..

Liar! Numerous lies from you constantly.


Bullshit.

1. He's stronger in the force.


Wrong!

2. He's faster.

Wrong! Can he take an army on his own? hit a man six times before he can blink? Move so fast, you can't even tell how many arms he has until he stops? No? Ok.
Lying idiot

3. He's physically stronger.

Don't see him breaking durasteel.
Lying idiot

4. He possesses unbreakable argument that protects his entire body minus his face.

So, one punch to the face?
And btw, moron, prove those Orbalisks are 100 percent invincible.
Retconned stories are all we can expect from stupid, lying fanboys.

5. He's technically more gifted.

As opposed to the guy who was a master swordsman at 13? Whatever.
Lying idiot loses. Logic wins.

Originally posted by allfg
OK, I'm done, you guys are all movie fanboys, and anybody can see that I've already owned all of you.

Translation: WAAAAAAH!!! STOP OWNING ME!!!!

Lightsnake, you haven't owned shit, all you guys are doing is proving that appeal to majority truly is a logical fallacy. Your whining at USW also proves that you're clearly upset that Bane would make Mace his b1tch.

The dirt cliff shook, buckled, and collapsed. With a subterranean roar that buried even the thunder of the eruption and the clamor of the steamcrawler's laboring engine, hundreds of tons of dirt and rock poured into the river of lava...Nearly all his concentration stayed submerged in the Force, spread throughout the slide, using a wide-focus Force grip to stabilize the rubble while he scrambled down to the steamcrawler's roof.

Originally posted by allfg
Right, I lose credibility by supplementing my points with insults against a loser/troll, who just happened to be plainly and uselessly insulting me? OK...

No, you lose credibility when you lose every argument you've ever participated in, live in a constant world of denial, have terrible debating and logic skills, and constantly argue against facts and canon. That makes you an idiot without credibility.

Coming from you? Don't even go there, unless you want me to point out your whole lumberjack argument..

Do you even know what you're talking about? I didn't think so.

1. He's stronger in the force.
2. He's faster.
3. He's physically stonger.
4. He possesses unbreakable argument that protects his entire body minus his face.
5. He's technically more gifted.

Stronger in the force? VERY debatable. Faster? Not even close. Physically stronger? So? Mace can break through that armor, and Bane is not more gifted, try again.

All GL says is that Mace overpowered him. The novel doesn't elaborate into whether Sidious was going full out or not. And that's not what the novel said, all it says is that Mace sensed that Anakin was Sidious' shatterpoint. It didn't factor in on the fight one bit. And in response to the 'drawing off Palpatine's darkside energies', all that is, is one line that has been completely blown out of proportion. [/B]

Yes, Mace overpowered him. That means Sidious was not faking and did not let Mace win, unless you want me to define "overpowered" for you. And as usual, when your argument fails and you can't argue against logic and facts anymore, a "line has been drawn out of proportion". I didn't know a blubbering idiot such as yourself was the authority on what is blown out of proportion and what isn't. But that's just me, tool.

Originally posted by allfg
Lightsnake, you haven't owned shit, all you guys are doing is proving that appeal to majority truly is a logical fallacy. Your whining at USW also proves that you're clearly upset that Bane would make Mace his b1tch.

Hey fool, take your anti depressants, because you're still lying to yourself. When you have to constantly tell yourself that you've pwned everyone, or hell ANYBODY, then you know your life needs to change. Come back when you have an argument, til then continue getting pwned. And it's not an appeal to the majority when the majority has a logical argument and you have dick. Tool..

Sexy, you're above that, don't let him get to you. WHile I doubt you'd get a ban for anything you've said, you don't need a warning over him.

Anyway, Bane loses at six pretty handily due to fatigue possibilities in this out-of-order gauntlet.

Oh he's not getting to me. I'm just making sure he realizes that he needs to sign off the internet for once, and unplug his modem. That is a hell of a lot cheaper than anti depressants and therapist visits.

Haha. No, maybe if he learns to listen here, he can apply it to everyday life. We are his therapy. However, if he's too stubborn (that seems to be the case), I agree.

allfg: Facts FTW. Just because Bane is your favorite character doesn't mean he wins all the time. (This is not an excuse for you to make one-sided Bane threads)

STFU and stop flaming at each other, everyone can have their own opinion. Debating is okey, BUT not flaming or bashing. Don't make me report on any of you, please. Everyone is set on their own opinion, and I happen to agree with allfg. Clone Wars Cartoons sucked, and I don't think taking examples of Mace punching through steel there sais anything. In the cartoon, everyone around seems like their invincible. Even Anakin brought down a whole factory by just using the force -.-

Originally posted by Spidervlad
STFU and stop flaming at each other, everyone can have their own opinion. Debating is ok[a]y, BUT not flaming or bashing. Don't make me report on any of you, please. Everyone is set on their own opinion

Agreed.

I happen to agree with allfg.

Why? Based on what?

Clone Wars Cartoons sucked, and I don't think taking examples of Mace punching through steel there sais anything.

Just because you didn't like them doesn't make them any less canon. And yes, it does say something, it says taht Mace can punch through droids.

In the cartoon, everyone around seems like their invincible. Even Anakin brought down a whole factory by just using the force -.- [/B]

Cool...

Now, I can gues you haven't read Shatterpoint, have you?

yet another idiot who thinks we care more about his opinion than canon sources.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
How does the 'cutting power' have anything to do with it?

Mace's battle on Dantooine was confirmed specifically in the databank and he can lunch six punches before someone can even blink...way faster than Baney boy.


The fact that a lightsaber can't cut through it means that it is incredibly strong. Honestly lightsnake, how the f*ck is Mace supposed to punch through a substance that it strong enough to block a lightsaber? Not to mention that fact that this isn't a fist fight anyway, so how fast Mace can punch doesn't mean shit.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
yet another idiot who thinks we care more about his opinion than canon sources.

Reported to Mod for bashing even after warning.

A lightsaber can cut through durasteel like peanut butter, droids are made out of durasteel. Now if a lightsaber can't penetrate the Orbelisk armor, then i'm preety sure it should be stronger then Durasteel. But I remember someone making a point of the Orbelisk armor having a material which specificaly only defends the wearer from lightsaber energy. Maybe, we don't know.

Bane knows the moves of all styles, save for Vapaad. That means he can use them, and therefore can use styles that lightsiders like Obi Wan Kenobi used. The defensive one? Forgot it's name, sorry. Then, Vapaad won't be very affective versus a defensive lightsaber style, remember, Vapaad takes an opponents agression and practically throws it back at them.

I won't say Mace is ALOT faster then Bane, their either equal or Mace is faster by a little, but I think Bane's armor will let Bane outmatch Mace in speed.

I read shatterpoint, and I also read NJO.

Originally posted by Spidervlad
Reported to Mod for bashing even after warning.

A lightsaber can cut through durasteel like peanut butter, droids are made out of durasteel. Now if a lightsaber can't penetrate the Orbelisk armor, then i'm preety sure it should be stronger then Durasteel. But I remember someone making a point of the Orbelisk armor having a material which specificaly only defends the wearer from lightsaber energy. Maybe, we don't know.

Bane knows the moves of all styles, save for Vapaad. That means he can use them, and therefore can use styles that lightsiders like Obi Wan Kenobi used. The defensive one? Forgot it's name, sorry. Then, Vapaad won't be very affective versus a defensive lightsaber style, remember, Vapaad takes an opponents agression and practically throws it back at them.

I won't say Mace is ALOT faster then Bane, their either equal or Mace is faster by a little, but I think Bane's armor will let Bane outmatch Mace in speed.

I read shatterpoint, and I also read NJO.

How is 'energy resistant' equivalent to 'completely invulnerable' now? Ludo Kressh destroys his saber resistant With Sword.

Oh, and Bane didn't know all the styles, that's bull. He knew Form V. He knew how to recognize other styles, that was it.

Moreover, Bane has never demonstrated Mace's speed.

Originally posted by darthsith19
The fact that a lightsaber can't cut through it means that it is incredibly strong. Honestly lightsnake, how the f*ck is Mace supposed to punch through a substance that it strong enough to block a lightsaber? Not to mention that fact that this isn't a fist fight anyway, so how fast Mace can punch doesn't mean shit.

gee, I dunno, how was Ludo Kressh able to break something capable of blocking lightsabers?

Could it be that these are TWO COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT CONCEPTS?!