Darth Bane Runs The Gauntlet!

My goodness you live in your own little world, huh?

Prove it's the same property and not a specified energy resistance.
Because, in your RPG source there, stat wise, the orbalisks are much more efficient against energy than physical attacks (also their healing properties are determined by hours, not seconds).

Okay, same example with the eel, only this time you're friend calls you an idiot, and takes a swing at you for going in the pool, and hits your lightly armored electricity suit, and doesn't do much.

I still like my first example more, but, if you want to be stubborn...

That's not the point, the point is that the lightsaber is pretty much the most destructive force there is, and yet the orbalisks are completely immune to it, and the reason I brought up that incident was to show that the defence isn't solely against energy.

Originally posted by allfg
That's not the point, the point is that the lightsaber is pretty much the most destructive force there is, and yet the orbalisks are completely immune to it, and the reason I brought up that incident was to show that the defence isn't solely against energy.

Okay, you proved that they aren't energy resistant parasites with the physical hardness and density of applesauce. Good job. A bird could pick up a conch shell and not break it, I don't se how you get that they can resist anything physically from a bird not having an effect.

What happened with the dance?

Originally posted by Count Makashi
What happened with the dance?

...What?

Originally posted by allfg
That's not the point, the point is that the lightsaber is pretty much the most destructive force there is, and yet the orbalisks are completely immune to it, and the reason I brought up that incident was to show that the defence isn't solely against energy.

I would LOVE to see a Jedi Master fighting back a Super Star Destroyer with a lightsaber.

or the death star...cause we all know that a lightsaber can destroy an entire planet...

In respect to volume, the lightsaber is the most destructive force in the entire SW Mythology, no other material or form of energy is as destructive, in respect to its size.

And to clear up the whole choreography issue, I'm just gonna post something from another Forum:

Ok, before I get to the rest of your post, I just want to clear up this whole choreography issue. Nai, GL's intentions were never that the jedi be godlike, and be able to move faster than the eye can see or anything, that's never what he intended. The EU destroyed his true intentions, and turned the force into some kind of Dragon Ball Z bs, and while it's all good and works fine for the parts of EU that don't cross over into Lucas' movies, the same can't be said about that which do. Now the fact is, GL could have simply done the Mace/Sidious duel in CGI, yet he chose not to. What does that tell you? I'll answer for you: it tells you that what we see in the movies best fits Lucas' true vision. You're quite simply arguing against canon by using source such as the CW cartoons and Shatterpoint, which basically put Mace on par with Yoda in terms of speed. There's a reason why GL chose to use CGI and make Yoda as quick as he is, and not do the same with Mace, and that was to make a clear distinction between the two in terms of speed. So using sources that put them on par with speed (which is what Shatterpoint and the CW cartoons do) should 100% be treated as inconsistencies, as they simply don't fit in with the movies and Lucas' vision. You're treating the movies as some kind of theater adaptation of what happened in the Star Wars movies, and that's not what they're supposed to be. The movies act as a visual medium that tells us (the viewers) what happens in the story, in other words, what we see is what happens. That's why when you disregard choreography and such, you're 100% arguing against canon. By your logic, Vader isn't slow, and we should just accept that the technology and lack of ambition on Lucas' part back then don't display what he truly is, and if the movies were in fact simple theater adaptations, then that would be fine, but they're not, what they show us is what is supposed to have happened.

Now you can dissect my post sentence by sentence and take my points out of context all you want, but until you address this issue:

Now the fact is, GL could have simply done the Mace/Sidious duel in CGI, yet he chose not to. What does that tell you? I'll answer for you: it tells you that what we see in the movies best fits Lucas' true vision. You're quite simply arguing against canon by using source such as the CW cartoons and Shatterpoint, which basically put Mace on par with Yoda in terms of speed. There's a reason why GL chose to use CGI and make Yoda as quick as he is, and not do the same with Mace, and that was to make a clear distinction between the two in terms of speed. So using sources that put them on par with speed (which is what Shatterpoint and the CW cartoons do) should 100% be treated as inconsistencies, as they simply don't fit in with the movies and Lucas' vision.

, then you have no argument.

Lucas explained WHY he didn't want to do it with other actors or computer effects. He wanted to show the actors faces and expressions, and he wants to save most of the tension to the last duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan. Watch the documentary to ROTS.

When did he say that? That just doesn't make sense, because he could have still used CGI, and just have gotten the actors to do the facial expressions, and then molded them together. Direct link please, otherwise I don't buy it, due to it not making sense.

It's called 'money' and 'time.'

I'm sure that played a part into it, but why do it for Yoda, and Sidious, but not Mace? The answer's obvious, and that is that he wanted to set them apart and make a clear distinction between the characters in that regard. Thus, The CW Cartoons and Shatterpoint (especially, I mean it has Mace moving at speeds beyond Yoda) do not display Mace according to Lucas' true vision.

Originally posted by allfg
When did he say that? That just doesn't make sense, because he could have still used CGI, and just have gotten the actors to do the facial expressions, and then molded them together. Direct link please, otherwise I don't buy it, due to it not making sense.

I can't show you the ROTS documentary, don't have anything to tape it. Go buy the ROTS DVD and watch the documentary, and he says that. He doesn't want to spoil the last battle with a battle that is actually better looking and more unbelivable. It does make sense, it is the same how he always made bad shots and short sightings of Maul and Qui-Gon fighting in the desert, because he wanted to save the cool fights for the last scene...

And Lucas has never, ever done a fight between two people with CG, (except Yoda and Sids) it is very weird to say that he should have done it here. You are just judging the actors, if we go by that, then Maul can beat Mace Windu and Sidious at the same time, although we know that a weaker Sidious pwned Maul's ass hard....

And why he did it for Yoda and Sidious? Because Yoda himself is in CG....

Originally posted by allfg
I'm sure that played a part into it, but why do it for Yoda, and Sidious, but not Mace? The answer's obvious, and that is that he wanted to set them apart and make a clear distinction between the characters in that regard. Thus, The CW Cartoons and Shatterpoint (especially, I mean it has Mace moving at speeds beyond Yoda) do not display Mace according to Lucas' true vision.

Maybe because it's a bit harder to do CGI in a close environment as such? Or SLJ and McDiarmid wished to do it themselves? Or that scene was filmed later?

Dozens of reasons. All viable

Please tell me that you're not arguing choreography or the "moving faster than the eye can see!" ramblings. I believe Nai brought up an article relating to this on EoD, and according to the Holocron, the discrepencies between the speeds depicted in the EU and the movies don't apply, and the only reason "faster-than-the-eye-can-see" moves haven't been shown is that for cinematic purposes, it wouldn't be plausible for a fight scene to be depicted.

The argument that "Yoda and Sidious" can't move faster than the eye can see is ridiculous considering that out-of-universe demands and requirements force such things not to be shown.

And as far as Mace vs. Sidious, Lucas said in the commentary that "he wanted to be right up in their faces". A very personal fight. I think he also commented on the intentional slowness of the duel, which is accentuated by the very fact that Jackson (and especially) McDiarmid are not trained swordsmen or stuntmen, and both are well beyond their physical prime (again, especially McDiarmid).

We also see Sidious move at ungodly speeds during his fight with Yoda thanks to the CGI variant and the stuntman, as Lucas wanted the duel to be "on a grand scale".

"LAWL Liek Out a unverse logics dont appli!" - Nebaris

Originally posted by jollyjim311
And, given the uberness of Shatterpoint, Bane'll end up with a lightsaber through his face.

WOW.

People finally know about Mace Windu...

Who is Mace Windu, never heard of him.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Who is Mace Windu, never heard of him.

Great haircut.