spiderman vs omega red

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
25 ton punch to the head is going to hurt like hell no matter who you are.

Spiderman strength > Omega Red's
but
Spiderman's Durability <<<<<Omega Red's
Omega Red's punches would effect Spiderman a lot more than Spiderman's blows to Omega Red.
plus, Omega Red is no slouch in H2H, he's has has plenty of military training from the SU.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
In case of any confusion I would like to point out that I think Spidey is going to lose.

Originally posted by Priest
Oh i know, im just want to debate something because there are no hot threads up right now 😛

Kay a friendly debate is always fun.

Originally posted by Priest
Spiderman strength > Omega Red's
but
Spiderman's Durability <<<<<Omega Red's
Omega Red's punches would effect Spiderman a lot more than Spiderman's blows to Omega Red.
plus, Omega Red is no slouch in H2H, he's has has plenty of military training from the SU.

True Sipdey would take more damage but he's also going to take fewer hit thanks to his speed and precog.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
25 ton punch to the head is going to hurt like hell no matter who you are.

In case of any confusion I would like to point out that I think Spidey is going to lose.

When have spiderman became 25 tons. I keep seeing different things. At 1st he is 10 tons, now I know of this upgrade, he was moved to the 15 ton strength range. Now can someone show me anywhere where it states that spiderman strength is 20 to 25 ton. I think that you made that up.

but Spidey doesn't have an HF. Nor can he break the carbonadium tentacles or red's skeleton. Whereas Red can do lasting damage to Spidey.

It doesn't necessarily state it anywhere. He's just been shown on numerous occasions to lift more than 20 tons, close to, if not more than 25 tons.

Where has it been stated that Red is in the 15 ton range?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
but Spidey doesn't have an HF. Nor can he break the carbonadium tentacles or red's skeleton. Whereas Red can do lasting damage to Spidey.

He doesn't need to.

If I punch you (I'm a class 0.025) I don't need to crack you skull to mess up your insides.

Originally posted by Priest
Spiderman strength > Omega Red's
but
Spiderman's Durability <<<<<Omega Red's
Omega Red's punches would effect Spiderman a lot more than Spiderman's blows to Omega Red.
plus, Omega Red is no slouch in H2H, he's has has plenty of military training from the SU.

Oh i know, im just want to debate something because there are no hot threads up right now 😛

Damn. You should probably go back in time and tell Spider-Man that he shouldn't be surviving the class 25/30/50/75/100 punches that he's taken numerous times over the years. 😐

Note: Also saying that Red wins, but nowhere near a landslide.

Doesn't change the fact that Red will heal from it eventually, whereas, if Red grabs Spidey's arm with his fist, or his tentacles and break his forearm, Spidey is screwed.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Doesn't change the fact that Red will heal from it eventually, whereas, if Red grabs Spidey's arm with his fist, or his tentacles and break his forearm, Spidey is screwed.

Is Pete just going to stand thier and let Red grab him?

I'm saying Red can hit-trade and Spidey can't. If Spidey tries it, he'll get killed. He can't attack Red unless he goes hit&run, and the problem with that is, if Red grabs him once, it's over.

Spidey wins. Arkady isn't a match.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
It doesn't necessarily state it anywhere. He's just been shown on numerous occasions to lift more than 20 tons, close to, if not more than 25 tons.

You know, Omega Red needs a respect thread. I might try and do that some time.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Damn. You should probably go back in time and tell Spider-Man that he shouldn't be surviving the class 25/30/50/75/100 punches that he's taken numerous times over the years. 😐

Note: Also saying that Red wins, but nowhere near a landslide.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
It doesn't necessarily state it anywhere. He's just been shown on numerous occasions to lift more than 20 tons, close to, if not more than 25 tons.

Where has it been stated that Red is in the 15 ton range?

It states that omega red strength is 15 tons in the wolverine hand book. Spiderman isnt 20 tons, he is 15 tons and that what it states in hand book and until I see different thats what im going by. Omega red has traded blows against colossus and rogue, both are considered invulnerable, he got to have some kind of strength to do that. Spiderman isnt winning this fight in any kind of way that your putting it and that guy that keep saying that spiderman is going to turn omega red insides to mush dont know what he is talking about and he dont know nothing about omega red. I wonder why spiderman punches didnt turn black tarantula insides to mush and I know for a fact that omega red is more durable than black tarantula. Spidey dont have a way of winning this fight.

This is him fighting iron man.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image😮megared004.jpg

This is a scope of his powers.
http://www.marveldatabase.com/Omega_Red

This is a close one. It all comes down to if Omega can manage to hit Spidey, as Spider-man is quicker, more agile, and has pre-awareness of any major strikes coming his way. With his agility advantage, wall-sticking, and overall flexiblity he should be able to avoid any signifigant damage.

If Red were a bit faster, it would be different. Spidey's not stupid either. Red would need some very solid planning and tactics to pull this one off.

run spidey, run

Originally posted by Priest
PIS aside, he should be kOed with a one clean hit against a top tier.
Im not saying tht OR, is a top tier, but a few or so of those carbonadium lased punches would do some major damage.

Sure. Against a top-tier CLEAN SHOT, I'd agree. However, very, very, very few opponents can get a clean shot on Spidey. And even the ones that do still don't put him down.

He's taken shots from Venom, Carnage, Rhino (class 75), Morlun, Hulk, etc., etc.

Red's nowhere near the strength to really damage Spidey enough to slow him down. The carbonadium-laced fists won't really contribute to the strength either, they just make his hands not able to break on hitting Spidey. Even Scorpion (stronger than Spidey) has greatly hurt his hands while punching a weaker Spider-Man. Spidey's own durability is highly underrated.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/shurukudemon/spideyscans/spidey-vs-scorpion1-cropped.jpg

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Originally posted by carver9
It states that omega red strength is 15 tons in the wolverine hand book. Spiderman isnt 20 tons, he is 15 tons and that what it states in hand book and until I see different thats what im going by. Omega red has traded blows against colossus and rogue, both are considered invulnerable, he got to have some kind of strength to do that. Spiderman isnt winning this fight in any kind of way that your putting it and that guy that keep saying that spiderman is going to turn omega red insides to mush dont know what he is talking about and he dont know nothing about omega red. I wonder why spiderman punches didnt turn black tarantula insides to mush and I know for a fact that omega red is more durable than black tarantula. Spidey dont have a way of winning this fight.

It's interesting how, when it suits you, the handbooks are your preferred evidence for debating. Spider-Man has been 15 tons for a number of years now. With his recent upgrade from "The Other", it's pretty obvious that his strength has been increased.

Hell, even before "The Other", Spidey has been lifting way more than 10-15 tons. To deny it is to deny the truth.

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-This would require loads of strength

http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyliftstrain15mmhi5.jpg
-Not underestimating Omega at all, I just can't see Red being able to lift something like this.

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http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Amazing_Spider-Man_32-03.jpg
-Could Red do that? I HIGHLY doubt it.

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http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=piledriver4qv.jpg
-Knocking out Bulldozer with one punch. Even Absorbing Man is worried. Speaking of AM...

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.............DAMN. I had no idea Spidey was that tough. 😑 Red might have a good fight on his hands.......